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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Werewillie Oleson" data-source="post: 431789" data-attributes="member: 8">That has got to be one of his most famous or most popular quotes, but I also find it fundamentally flawed.The kind of material power Jock refers to needs to be sustained and even in those ideal circumstances people will or have to answer to the highest bidder.A power that is taken or used forcefully makes it completely unnecessary to believe in it.Real power can only be given, imo, and ideally it should always be rejected (or at least make the gesture to do so - "weeell, if you really really really want me to sit on this throne, I'll do  it!").</blockquote>