nuDynasty Episode Chat S3E11: A Wound That May Never Heal

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Episode description: "With Alexis back in the picture, Blake tries to comfort Cristal while working to re-establish himself; Fallon decides to expand her empire and seeks help from Culhane; Sam's love life continues to heat up; Kirby and Adam form an unlikely friendship."
 

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Isn't any friendship on this show unlikely?

Eh, I'd say nuDynasty actually has a lot of friendships on the show that comes across as genuine.

With that said, I think friendships for Adam is really unlikely because the creep factor. But this is hopefully the beginning of him ending up burying Kirby alive (or just doing creepy gothic things to her in general)!
 

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They got Alexis right for 2 episodes, and then they do that :
https://www.tvinsider.com/852127/dynasty-season-3-episode-11-alexis-cristal/

"Workout Alexis" is embarrassing. It was when it was Nicollette, it is when it's Elaine Hendrix...
And it makes even more obvious that they don't have the same body type...

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And I hope there is more than "My therapist want us to talk to help me" from Cristal. I mean, Alexis killed her ex, and her baby, because she tried to kill her. I what universe you want to talk to that kind of enemy???

If someone murdered my ex by mistake because he/she was aiming at me, there is no way that someone could be in the same place with me.

Sometimes, I really think the show is schizophrenic.
 
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Opening scene: Blake and Cristal are both still incredibly angry at Alexis. He dreams of strangling her, she's stabbing embers in the fireplace with the fireplace poker. In his dream, Alexis is actually wearing something that isn't black and white...therefore you know it has to be a dream.

Alexis discovers Adam in her loft (she didn't know he was squatting there). Adam lets her know that he knows the marriage to Jeff is about her getting revenge. He also says he wants to stay neutral in a war between his parents. She tells him no Carrington can remain neutral very long. Adam paints just like his mother.

While sneaking in to snatch some of his things, Adam has a scene with Kirby, who's no longer kicked out apparently. She agrees to help him get his stuff back. They have a moment of him being shirtless, which Anders walks in on and he is not amused. He tells Adam he's not welcome anywhere on the manor grounds. Adam punches his fist through a painting in frustration, allowing Kirby to be reminded that he's a whack job.

Sam is sort of hiding Not!Steven (Fletcher) from everyone, and Fletcher has noticed.

Fallon wants to take Fallon Unlimited international (I know, just go along) and while meeting with Sam at LaMirage, she realizes the Spanish soccer team staying at the hotel might be her ticket to promoting the...streaming service?....to the rest of the world. She runs to Culhane and asks to use the game to promote it. He agrees to let her do it.

Alexis suggests to Jeff using Adam to do their dirty work, but Jeff is having none of that. Does Alexis not know about Adam poisoning Jeff?

Attempting to deal with the stress, C3 is using yoga, cleansing, and crystals. C3 (who used to be one of these crystals-and-incense life coaches) is way past the stage of 'getting in touch with her inner peace'. She sees a counselor but doesn't tell the counselor exactly what Alexis did to her. The counselor tells her to go see Alexis, to find an ounce of humanity in Alexis. The visit isn't fruitful. Alexis tells C3 that no matter how awful she (Alexis) behaves, Blake will never "appropriately" punish her, and Blake basically reinforces that opinion when C3 confronts Blake later on.

Fallon learns that Blake has purchased a streaming service of his own, which will be somehow in direct competition with hers, even though hers....doesn't exist yet. Blake claims it's just a coincidence....yeah, uh-huh.

Adam has suddenly decided to be on mother's side, and openly blames father for the fractures in the family. He even has a brief flashback to his pushing Alexis into the fireplace, begging for forgiveness. She seems willing to take him into the revenge plot against Blake. Adam then pleads his case to Jeff, even apologizes for poisoning him. So Jeff punches Adam in the nose, then lets him in on the plan. Methinks this will not end well.

Fallon creates a "social-media circus" (picketing) at LaMirage in an effort to bring attention to her streaming service, then sabotages the half-time show (the show being produced by Not!Steven) at the soccer game by having Sam don the mascot costume (!!). He ends up catching himself on fire (!!!) during the half-time show. Katy Perry's shark guy never had this problem, did he? Still, gotta give them props for not totally abandoning the soccer team. Not!Steven is hurt that Sam helped sabotage the halftime show and they break up. Culhane is also PO'd at Fallon for turning the game into a fiasco.

Alexis did NOT know about Jeff's poisoning. She's genuinely upset when he tells her, though he only says "I'm still sick." So now the question is what will she do when she finds out her filthy rich husband is on borrowed time?

Adam helps Jeff plant a bug in the hotel room of Blake's business associate (yes, the mustache returns). Jeff is still adamant about not working with Adam, so Alexis comes up with a 'truce' of sorts: with Jeff present, Adam willingly confesses to the poisoning on tape. If Adam tries to double-cross them, then the confession goes to the police, I guess.

Blake has another dream--this time with Alexis, Adam, and Fallon lining up to stab him a la Julius Caesar. C3 says she wants to break this cycle. Blake says the moment he lost his grip was.....the moment he lost Carrington-Atlantic, and he wants it back!

Alexis tries to recruit Fallon to their cause, but Fallon isn't ready to join their "Mod Squad". She declares to one and all that she will no longer live in the shadow of Blake Carrington.

Sam shows up at Not!Steven's house to try to reconcile, but apparently Not!Steven is playing house with another man already. But was he playing house all along? Whatever the case, I has the sads for poor Sam. :(

While Jeff and Alexis meet with the "bugged associate" to talk secret recordings and blackmail, we see that the meeting is being held in the offices of Carrington-Atlantic. (Yay! It really is back)

C3 calls Beto and tells him that if Blake won't punish Alexis, she will. She wants Beto to have Alexis killed.
 
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Sometimes, I really think the show is schizophrenic.
In real life Alexis would now be in a jail cell on 2 counts of murder. I get this is a soap but when writers do this it stretches my belief in a series and think no one is accountable for their actions. Have I missed something in these recaps? Why hasn't Cristal No.3 gone to the police?
 

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In real life Alexis would now be in a jail cell on 2 counts of murder. I get this is a soap but when writers do this it stretches my belief in a series and think no one is accountable for their actions. Have I missed something in these recaps? Why hasn't Cristal No.3 gone to the police?

Because it would lead them right back to Blake killing Mack. Alexis pointed that right out after the lily pond catfight.

There's a reason why the show had the trial end in a hung jury. The State could go after Blake again - the biggest hole in their case was arguably that they couldn't show any motive for him killing Mack. They don't need to present one, but it helps when you have a jury.
 
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Fallon, just like her father, can't seemingly stop dabbling in things. She now owns a streaming service - sheesh! Focus a bit Fallon - lol at everyone being surprised her having one.

I guess Blake strangling Alexis (in his dreams) is a ODynasty reference? "Tony, hi! How are the kids - honestly, that was just rhetorical...". "Make Fallon work for something once in her life!", uh, Blake, you're possibly a worse dabbler than Fallon. And while Blake is doing "retail therapy", Cristal is obviously not handling the news about Alexis being the one firing the gun that well.

LOL at Adam painting cats?! That's random, but I'll admit that it's a nice painting. I guess Adam is as good at disappearing as he is appearing. Speaking of which, Blake want Adam off the property - he might not own the loft but he does own everything around it so he can stop Adam from coming and going... why didn't Blake think about this when Alexis lived there? Hell, why didn't Blake think about this on ODynasty? Of course, Alexis is not one not to take advantage of this development...

I liked the little Alexis / Cristal scene. "Blake will neeeever do anything to hurt me." Wanna bet Alexis? I guess Alexis didn't know about Adam's little job on Jeff. Meanwhile... Cristal asks if Alexis would've been murdered if Blake had found out it was her at the time. Alexis gets Adam to do a confession video about the poison paint job as insurance... that won't come back to bite him in the ass, I'm sure.

Oh ok, bye Fletcher I guess.

Blake decides that he needs to get Carrington Atlantic back as it's when he lost focus of his life... cut to Jeff and Alexis blackmailing the CEO of Carrington Atlantic. Meanwhile, Cristal turns mob princess again, but at least for a reason - she wants Alexis Carrington... muerta!

BTW, that restaurant scene with Gillies and Hendrix really emphasised how alike they really look.
 

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I honestly thought Steven was going to walk out of Fletcher’s house when Sam and Fletcher were talking out the front.
And did anyone else get Nathalie Kelley vibes from Danielle Alonso tonight? Gone was the “messy” hair, replaced by clean, straightened locks. And I really felt NK vibes when Blake and Cristal had the disagreement in the bedroom.
 

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The accidental "FU SPAIN" made me laugh out loud.

I really enjoyed this episode. Except for the workout Alexis (but seeing it a second time made it less... bad)

Alexis is playing her game. Good writing. No more Clown Alexis. She's really strong.
I also love that the writers are using short flashbacks to link the characters with their previous incarnations storyline. Last episode was C3 remebering falling from the horse. Now it's Adam remembering putting A1's face in the fireplace.

So far, the writing remains quite consistent and is above season 2.

Two things made me laugh, but not on purpose :
New show runner interview last year :"we're gonna write Cristal less scary"
Cristal :"Beto, I want Alexis Carrington dead" :D

Also : are the writers ignoring the fact that Steven is literally the forgotten Carrington? Not Fallon. Yes I know he is technically not a Carrington anymore. But I still need a DNA test.
 
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The "FU SPAIN" made me laugh at loud.

I really enjoyed this episode. Except for the workout Alexis (but seeing it a second time made it less... bad)

Alexis is playing her game. Good writing. No more Clown Alexis. She's really strong.
I also love that the writers are using short flashbacks to link the characters with their previous incarnations storyline. Last episode was C3 remebering falling from the horse. Now it's Adam remembering putting A1's face in the fireplace.

So far, the writing remains quite consistent and is above season 2.

Two things made me laugh, but not on purpose :
New show runner interview last year :"we're gonna write Cristal less scary"
Cristal :"Beto, I want Alexis Carrington dead" :D

Also : are the writers ignoring the fact that Steven is literally the forgotten Carrington? Not Fallon. Yes I know he is technically not a Carrington anymore. But I still need a DNA test.
I also thought the part where Jeff mentions “Parent Trap” to Alexis was great (EH starred in the Parent Trap remake as Meredith Blake).
 

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The Gillieathon always has an episode, or two, or a whole season, that will undo any previous attempt at narrative cohesion, and here we are.

If anyone thought Alexis and Jeff marrying was a well-orchestrated move with a game plan, shame on you. Alexis not knowing about Jeff's poisoning shows that their wedding was just as hurried as Fallon's wedding to Liam.

Adam's sudden transformation does not bother me because the original Adam's drugs excuse was just as laughable, but how can anyone expect Jeff to forgive him when he is the reason he is dying?

Workout Alexis is, as @thomaswak mentioned, a Sheridan Alexis legacy, and a terrible one at that. But even worse, when we did see Alexis fire her gun in season 2, she was a drunken mess, on the verge of suicide, and it was not a calculated shot at Cristal. This rewrite to make Alexis a Tarantino executioner is ludicrous.

Fallon does not even spend a single scene after leaving Blake's manor to not be in his shadow to run again to be in his shadow. At the end of the episode she has the exact same revelation she has already had 45 other times and it will last just as long.

Sam's almost boyfriend freaks out because Sam won't call him a boyfriend even though he already has a permanent boyfriend/spouse and the whole thing is Fletcher two-timing Sam. Why, exactly? Are we in some parallel universe where this is a gay version of 50s America where gay husbands have gay secret affairs?

Cristal's new and kinder persona moving away from season 2's Latin mafia Cristal ends up with her asking her brother to put a hit on Alexis. Whatever....
 

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Yes, the show is schizophrenic. The characters are too. But i don't see a rewrite about Alexis. Yes, she was desperate and wanted to commit suicide, then decided to aim at Cristal.
She killed Mark and found out how to get away with it. Now she's no more desperate. No more Desperate Ex-wife. She's rich and surely has a plan. So she doesn't care anymore to hurt Cristal. She's not apologetic. That's all I think. Jeff marrying Alexis is surely a part of his plan. He just has not shared the total picture with Alexis yet. Or maybe I am too optimistic lol

Side note : I notice Fallon calling Elaine's Alexis mom 2 or 3 times in this episode. Did she ever called NS Alexis mom? I remember that she called her "mother" a few time. But "mom", I'm not sure...

Edit : I have checked. She mostly called NS Alexis "mother". She started calling her "mom" in the hospital, when she was burnt. And called her "mother" again when it was Fallexis. So I guess Fallon calls her mom when she's not angry at Alexis.
 
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But even worse, when we did see Alexis fire her gun in season 2, she was a drunken mess, on the verge of suicide, and it was not a calculated shot at Cristal. This rewrite to make Alexis a Tarantino executioner is ludicrous.

I don't think they're re-writing it - but Alexis has absolutely no reason to attempt to try and explain to Cristal her state of mind when she shot that gun at this time, especially as she knows that they can't do shit to her since it'll lead the police back to Mack's murder. I imagine that it'll come up in future fights especially with Blake.
 

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She killed Mark and found out how to get away with it.
Well, in the original scene, it was not clear. Alexis did not seem to point the gun in the right direction.
It is still possible that another person (Beto ? Someone hired by Cristal's father ?) actually did it.
 

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Well, in the original scene, it was not clear. Alexis did not seem to point the gun in the right direction.
It is still possible that another person (Beto ? Someone hired by Cristal's father ?) actually did it.

That's quite a problem. If the bullets have the Carrington name engraved, why did the police didn't find the bullet that shot Mark.
And I was thinking about the question you raised, lately. And I was saying to myself : "having an other shooter, aiming at the exact, exact same time than Alexis would be too much of a coincidence"

So I tend to think it was Alexis. But you might be right too.
Who knows, with this Dynasty, everything is possible. Except keeping the same cristal more than 1 season.
 

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In another thread I said that if Cristal had genuinely tried to drown Alexis in the lily pond--only to pull back--it would have given her a taste of the murderous rage Blake had felt when he killed Mack, and thus allowed her to understand him better and not be so quick to judge him. I think that Beto (or one of the Flores family goons-for-hire) actually killed Mark, and his death was the intention all along; C2's being dragged by the horse and losing her baby was unintentional. Yes, Alexis firing her gun at the same time is a huge coincidence, but that's what soaps do best. If Beto did the deed, then he naturally feels terrible for what happened to his sister, but rather than set her straight about the events of that day, he'd likely just agree to bump Alexis off and keep the secret forever. Beto would be doing the same thing for C3 that Mack was going to do for Blake. Blake stopped Mack from killing Mark (called off the hit), but would C3 call off her hit on Alexis, even after she figures out Beto was the real shooter? Would Beto even agree to stop it, once it looks like Alexis might recall some of the events that day?

In the end, this whole thing screams "parallel stories", with Beto doing C3's dirty work just as Blake had Mack doing his, and the writers patting themselves on the back for writing stories that prove those two are meant for one another.
 
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In other stories, am I to assume that Kirby's guru/cult guy Joel swindled her out of Femperial? Because she sure didn't seem to be burdened with anything resembling work in this episode. I can't picture Fallon so willing to allow such a thing to happen to 'her' company. Fallon was still behaving as if it was hers even after Kirby took control; you'd think she would be coming down on Joel like a ton of bricks on the guy to "get back what is hers" (even if it's Kirby's).

Another Liam-free episode. though I see he will be back in the next episode. Did they give an excuse (like, maybe he's off covering some story or researching another book) as to why he hasn't been around? In the Show In My Head, he was off investigating Joel's operation and planning to publish an expose in Fallon's magazine. Liam's book contract is with Femperial, after all, and if the company is now somehow controlled by Joel (or is just now dissolved), it's in Liam's best interest to reveal to the public what's gone down, so he can at least void his contract. But I'm probably over-thinking it as usual. I guess we'll find out next week. Once they get deeper into the battle to regain control of C-A he will likely be more visible, and doing more than just holding Fallon's purse.

Dominique was also missing from both of these episodes. I'm beginning to think MM got the same sort of lower-episode guarantee that Adam Huber and Maddison Brown got.
 
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