Movie Top Ten Someone, take over the baton
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That's the one I've wanted to rewatch for possible inclusion, but, alas, it was not available at the moment.
No, that's not the way to do it.
I feel I should like his films, and I've done a lot of research when I posted my top 100 last year so it's not like I'm not aware of them.
And yet, from the bits and bobs I've seen here and there, my instinct told me that I wouldn't like them.
I'm not sure why, maybe I got the impression that it's often too intentionally hysterical and camp, but like I said I've never watched any of his films in full therefore it's not a fair judgment.
If I can find something for free on prime I'll give it a try.
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Drat. Another example of the frustrations of streaming, but I suppose it helps narrow down the list.
I hope you do get to rewatch it at some point. I was lucky that it became available to stream on the site of one of the main British TV channels (Channel 4, who were behind the film in the first place) just last week.
By the way, I was a little surprised that Priest didn't appear in your list after your glowing review. Is it because it placed lower as a film for you than the others in your list, or... because it's not gay enough?
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Yes, exactly. I don't remember it as a gay themed film, it's the drama of everything that happens that lingers on.
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I can understand that.
For me, his attempts to reconcile his sexuality with his vocation (and reactions to him based on this) along with the beautiful, intimate relationship with Robert Carlyle's character gave it strong enough gay elements to feature in my list (plus I was glad to give it its due because it's a cracking film that I'm still a little furious at for making me cry buckets without truly understanding why).
At the same time, I do agree that categorising it as (primarily) a gay-themed film can devalue it somewhat. My DVD (from the Netherlands) has the text on the front:
Which feels like an oversimplification of the story, even though it's technically accurate. But equally that also helped me feel it was an important enough factor to qualify for my list.
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Pedro Almadovar has made some awesome movies, including Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown, Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down, What Have I Done to Deserve This and Matador. Perhaps we should.start a thread to discuss his work
Regarding LGBTQ movies, I forgot to include one of Ang Lee's earlier movies, The Wedding Banquet.
Regarding LGBTQ movies, I forgot to include one of Ang Lee's earlier movies, The Wedding Banquet.
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Count me in if we do it...Pedro Almadovar has made some awesome movies, including Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown, Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down, What Have I Done to Deserve This and Matador. Perhaps we should.start a thread to discuss his work
Regarding LGBTQ movies, I forgot to include one of Ang Lee's earlier movies, The Wedding Banquet.
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To be honest, it was the gay story that I remembered the most before I rewatched it two weeks ago, and I certainly wasn't challenging your choice to include it.
And who knows. maybe it will make a comeback in a church/religion themed Top Ten.
You had already posted more than 10 titles
I'll use your first 10 choices for the tally up, unless you want to change your list.
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Don't worry. I didn't feel that was the case. As was said ahead of the round, people's reasons for including or excluding certain films and the approach used to help decide this (like Crimson's choice) is part of what makes this whole process so interesting.
Oh great. I'm all for second chances.
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And this is what "the 10 best of the LGBTQ+" looks like here on tellytalk:
1. Carol (2015) - 20
2. Moonlight (2016) - 19
3. Pride (2014) / Beautiful Thing (1996) - 17
4. The Color Purple (1985) - 16
5. The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen Of The Desert (1994) / Maurice (1987) / All About My Mother (1999) - 14
6. Call Me By Your Name ( 2017) / Cruising (1980) - 13
7. God's Own Country (2017) / Longtime Companion - 12
8. Transamerica (2005) / Victim ( 1961) / Victor/Victoria (1982) - 11
9. Heavenly Creatures (1994) / Trick / Parting Glances - 10
10. Torch Song Trilogy (1988) / The Broken Hearts Club / Priest (1994) / The Totally True Adventures of Two Girls in Love - 9
Next theme is the REMAKES. Good luck everybody!
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1. Oceans Eleven - 2001
2. The Karate Kid - 2010
3. True Grit - 2010
4. King Kong - 2005
5. The Italian Job - 2003
6. Casino Royale - 2006
7. A Star Is Born - 2018
8. The Lion King - 2019
9. Cinderella- 2015
10. Ghostbusters- 2016
2. The Karate Kid - 2010
3. True Grit - 2010
4. King Kong - 2005
5. The Italian Job - 2003
6. Casino Royale - 2006
7. A Star Is Born - 2018
8. The Lion King - 2019
9. Cinderella- 2015
10. Ghostbusters- 2016
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The Children's Hour (1961)
The Mummy (1999)
The Jungle Book (2016)
Suspiria (2018)
Invasion Of The Body Snatchers (1978)
The Woman In Black (2012)
A Perfect Murder (1998)
101 Dalmatians (1996)
Heat (1995)
The Ring (2002)
The Mummy (1999)
The Jungle Book (2016)
Suspiria (2018)
Invasion Of The Body Snatchers (1978)
The Woman In Black (2012)
A Perfect Murder (1998)
101 Dalmatians (1996)
Heat (1995)
The Ring (2002)
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Favorite Remakes
- Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (1988)
- Hairspray (2007)
- The Maltese Falcon (1941)
- The Birdcage (1996)
- His Girl Friday (1940)
- The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956)
- Heaven Can Wait (1978)
- A Star Is Born (1954)
- The Thing (1982)
- Only the Lonely (1991)
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1) Sabrina (1995)
2) The Mirror has two Faces (1996) - US remake of a french film
3) Always (1989)
4) A Star is Born (1976)
5) LIttle Shop of Horrors (1986)
6) Cinderella (1997) - tv movies also count
7) Father of the Bride (1991)
8) Night of the Living Dead (1990)
9) The Uninvited (2009)
10) The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003)
2) The Mirror has two Faces (1996) - US remake of a french film
3) Always (1989)
4) A Star is Born (1976)
5) LIttle Shop of Horrors (1986)
6) Cinderella (1997) - tv movies also count
7) Father of the Bride (1991)
8) Night of the Living Dead (1990)
9) The Uninvited (2009)
10) The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003)
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Great choice, people.
I confined my top 10 to remakes of films that I’ve seen the original and prefer the remake.
- The Blue Veil (1951) remake of Le Voile Bleu (1942)
- The Ring (2002) remake of Ringu (1998)
- Magnificent Obsession (1954) remake of Magnificent Obsession (1935)
- Imitation of Life (1959) remake of Imitation of Life (1933)
- The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) remake of The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934)
- CODA (2001) remake of La Famille Bélier (2014)
- Pocketful of Miracles (1961) remake of Lady For A Day (1933)
- Fatal Attraction (1987) remake of Diversion (1980)
- Three Men and a Baby (1987) remake of Trois Hommes et Un Couffin (1984)
- The Money Pit (1986) remake of Mr Blandings Builds His Dream House (1948)
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1. Some Like It Hot (1959)
2. The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956)
3. When A Stranger Calls (2006)
4. The Woman In Black (2012)
5. Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (1988)
6. Frankenweenie (2012)
7. Cape Fear (1991)
8. Scum (1979)
9. The Birdcage (1996)
10. The Thing (1982)
A couple more considerations:
Freaky Friday (2003)
The Wizard Of Oz (1939) (I'm not sure if this counts as a remake or is simply another cinematic adaption of the source material).
The Bette Midler filmography includes a number of remakes of varying quality and success: Down And Out In Beverly Hills; Stella; Gypsy; The Stepford Wives and The Women spring to mind.
2. The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956)
3. When A Stranger Calls (2006)
4. The Woman In Black (2012)
5. Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (1988)
6. Frankenweenie (2012)
7. Cape Fear (1991)
8. Scum (1979)
9. The Birdcage (1996)
10. The Thing (1982)
A couple more considerations:
Freaky Friday (2003)
The Wizard Of Oz (1939) (I'm not sure if this counts as a remake or is simply another cinematic adaption of the source material).
The Bette Midler filmography includes a number of remakes of varying quality and success: Down And Out In Beverly Hills; Stella; Gypsy; The Stepford Wives and The Women spring to mind.
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I presume this is a remake of the 1965 TV musical?
That's not how I made my list, but looking back at my choices I think I prefer the new versions (except for 101 Dalmatians).
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There's only one example in my Top Ten where I'm certain I've seen more than one version, and in that case (When A Stranger Calls) I find they're different animals... even different genres, really. There are some times when only the original will hit the spot and others when I crave revisiting the remake.
Now I think about it, the first act of the 1979 When A Stranger Calls was itself an almost identical remake of a short film by the same writer and director (which I finally saw when I got the WASC Blu-ray a few years ago), so the 2006 version is a remake of a remake
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And maybe that's what is both fascinating and problematic about remakes.
Is the pleasure in the familiarity (play it again Sam) or is it more interesting when it looks completely different from the original?
I guess the remakes that no longer suffered the tyranny of the Hays Code are inherently more interesting, but not necessarily better made.
Then there's the argument of making things more accessible especially from one language/culture to another one.
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I had to set myself rules otherwise the choice would have been too wide. I also didn't include any films that were adapted from another medium, such as a book or a play, because I couldn't be sure if the new film was a remake of the previous film or a new adaptation of the original work. It meant I couldn't include The Sound of Music (1965) even though it is a partial remake of the film Die Trapp-Familie (1956) and many of the scenes in both films are identical. However, both were adapted from the original book The Story of the Trapp Family Singers and additionally The Sound of Music was adapted from a stage musical of the same name. Therefore, I couldn't really consider The Sound of Music to be a strict remake of the earlier film.
I know, I made it more complicated for myself than was necessary.