Disney's SNOW WHITE (2025) first trailer

[Willie Oleson]

Hate reviews of movies have been around for eons

Of these proportions? I guess I've been living under a rock.

Also, I don't see how the joke is on content creators when rage bait drives traffic to their videos.

There's a lot of truth in that, but at the same time it shows what an utter pit of vileness it has become. Rage bait, click bait - it's all trash. They're trash creators.

As far as unoriginality goes, Zegler's "I don't need a man because I'm a bad ass leader" commentary is cliché coming from a Gen Z woman

That's excusing a bad for a different kind of bad. It's exactly that kind of sentimental and subjective argumentation that keeps the argument go round in circles.

I can forgive people for jumping on the bandwagon in the heat of the moment (I'm guilty of that myself), but the Snow White controversy has been going on for three years now and they're still doing it. Still the same videos, still the same comments that have been posted a million times before. I find it all so lowbrow and undignified.

The film's current IMDB score of 1.5 was decided a long time ago. It has very little to do with the film and that also shows how meaningless that troll voting is. My gosh, they're even too stupid to understand that.

As I mentioned before, if Rachel Zegler had made those comments in 1999 the reaction would be "how novel"


I don't take her comments too seriously, it's just a lot of blabbering by someone with very little PR guidance. As for giving the backlash culture - that has been around for quite some time now - the middle finger, I can see the "enfant terrible" humour in it.
And maybe that's the whole point: we've lost our sense of humour.
To quote NuVicky from Falcon Crest "Oh, lighten up, mother!"

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Lowbrow and Undignified. It's what's for dinner.

Zegler seems to me an attractive, energetic, talented, somewhat intelligent person, but one who's still very young and has been brought up in a certain period ecosphere. She may grow out of it. At least she has the relative self-awareness to refer to herself as "a narcissist."

 

[Frank Underwood]

At least she has the relative self-awareness to refer to herself as "a narcissist."

That's a start. Most narcissists don't seem to recognize that trait in themselves.

She also supports Palestine, which is good.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Of these proportions? I guess I've been living under a rock.

I didn't say it was of these proportions. Anybody with a smartphone and an Internet connection can be a critic these days.

That said, there have always been critics who've viciously critiqued movies they didn't like. The difference is anybody's voice can be amplified today.

There's a lot of truth in that, but at the same time it shows what an utter pit of vileness it has become. Rage bait, click bait - it's all trash. They're trash creators.

Before trash creators on YouTube and Tik Tok, there were trash talk shows, reality shows, sensationalist rags like the Enquirer, etc. What's old is new again.

That's excusing a bad for a different kind of bad. It's exactly that kind of sentimental and subjective argumentation that keeps the argument go round in circles.

How am I excusing one bad for another by simply pointing that out? I just think if a particular cliche is getting called out, so should the other.

I can forgive people for jumping on the bandwagon in the heat of the moment (I'm guilty of that myself), but the Snow White controversy has been going on for three years now and they're still doing it. Still the same videos, still the same comments that have been posted a million times before. I find it all so lowbrow and undignified.

The film's current IMDB score of 1.5 was decided a long time ago. It has very little to do with the film and that also shows how meaningless that troll voting is. My gosh, they're even too stupid to understand that.

On that, I agree with you completely. It doesn't make sense to make up your mind about a movie based solely on an actress's comments and what you think it's going to be like.

Of course, the fact that it's taken 3 years for the movie to be released has kept the controversy going. And as it turns out, the movie is more or less what people expected.

As I mentioned before, if Rachel Zegler had made those comments in 1999 the reaction would be "how novel"

She might have gotten roasted for it on the late-night comedy shows, but there wouldn't have been social media to keep the controversy going indefinitely.

I don't take her comments too seriously, it's just a lot of blabbering by someone with very little PR guidance. As for giving the backlash culture - that has been around for quite some time now - the middle finger, I can see the "enfant terrible" humour in it.
And maybe that's the whole point: we've lost our sense of humour.
To quote NuVicky from Falcon Crest "Oh, lighten up, mother!"

Some people are laughing, but it's at her and not with her. I enjoy many of the Rachel Zegler/Snow White parodies, which I find more clever than the typical rage bait content.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

The box office and budget figures indicate that this movie is a flop.

The budget has been estimated at $270 million (some reports estimate an even higher cost), not including marketing, promotion and distribution costs which typically double the production budget. So the movie needs at least a $540 million box office to break even, based on that formula.

So far, the box office is at $76.3 million domestically and $143 million globally after two weeks, a major disappointment.
It opened to $42 million domestically, far below initial projections. It was the #1 movie domestically, largely because there was no other
significant release. It couldn't hold #1 in week 2, with "A Working Man" (Jason Stratham movie) claiming the top spot while
"Snow White" dropped approximately 66%
"Snow White" is the worst performing live action remake of a Disney animated film.

So far, Disney scaled down the movie's premiere, and did not provide entry to many media outlets for the premiere. Many reviews have been unfavorable
The controversies surrounding the film have certainly been damaging to chances of a successful project
Disney is faced with the failure of one of its' most iconic properties, and seems to have been conducting damage control for a long time with regard to
the movie.
The final box office will almost certainly be less than $400 million, and it may struggle to reach $300 million, a substantial loss.
Disney execs and investors will clearly be displeased, at the very least


There are also other considerable negative outcomes.
Merchandising sales will alleviate at least some of the losses, but the revenues will not be close to what Disney anticipated.
Spinoff/sequels/prequels, if they were being considered, are not likely to materialize.
While Disney will recover from this fiasco, there is a short-term embarrassment.

In conclusion, "Snow White" is a flop for what is probably a simple reason
It is probably not a good movie

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[Angela Channing]

I really don't think Disney executives will lose too much sleep over the box office performance of Snow White. After two weeks, it's already the third highest grossing film of 2025, only beaten by Ne Zha 2 and that other "flop" Captain America: Brave New World. Snow White is still number one at the box office in many markets including the UK and is still increasing its revenue. It will also have a second life when it streams on Disney+. Although considered a flop, it will still recover its costs and eventually be profitable.

 

[Willie Oleson]

I bet you think this song is about you.

IMDB score went up from 1.5 to 1.6. I wonder if it's become a sport to rate it as low as possible, just for the fun of it. Lord knows how many sockpuppet accounts were created to make this happen. By IMDB "standards" (they have none) THE HUMAN CENTIPEDE III is a better film than Snow White!

I haven't used my vote yet...what should I do?

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

IMDB score went up from 1.5 to 1.6. I wonder if it's become a sport to rate it as low as possible, just for the fun of it. Lord knows how many sockpuppet accounts were created to make this happen. By IMDB "standards" (they have none) THE HUMAN CENTIPEDE III is a better film than Snow White!

I haven't used my vote yet...what should I do?

Oh, I think it's definitely a contrivance, the super-low IMDb vote. Probably from people who mostly haven't seen the movie -- voters responding to Zegler's earlier comments.

 

[Willie Oleson]

There's always been troll voting on IMDB (and disproportionate praise voting to counterbalance the score) but never as severe as this. It's almost become a sub-topic.

On the other hand, is The Shawshank Redemption really the best film ever? Or is it just because nobody has anything bad to say about it?

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

A disaster!

The movie is projected to lose $115 million.
While this is not an official figure, it is certainly discouraging for Disney.
This movie was expected to be a major blockbuster, and a celebration for
one of Disney's most iconic characters.
Instead it is a major box office flop

‘Snow White’ is a Catastrophic Flop: Disney Faces Massive $115M Loss

Disney’s live-action Snow White has officially taken its place in the studio’s Hall of Box Office Disasters, projected to burn a staggering $115 million hole in the House of Mouse’s… The post ‘Snow Wh...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

The Snow White flop continues, and it may be even worse than expected

In its' third weekend, it fell to 4th place with an estmated $5.7 million US box office
That is after a 66% drop in weekend#2 (estimated $14.2 million) from weekend #1 which was a
dissappointing $42.2 million.
On an estimated $270 million budget, not coiunting marketing, promotion and distribution,
those results are catastrophic.

"A Minecraft Movie" was #1 with 130+ million+ in its' opening weekend on a budget of $157 million

"Snow White is expected to lose approximately $115 million.
That figure may be revised to a larger amount.
The final worldwide total is estimated at $225 million, even less than the budget.

To put in context further how poorly this project has performed, it was expected to be a major blockbuster
with major publicity events to celebrate one of Disney's most iconic characters.
Obviously, there was a lot of controversy
Any plans for spinoffs would appear to be gone, and merchandising will not
be nearly as visible.
In that sense, the loss is even greater than the financial reports indicate
And plans for a "Tangled" live action have been paused, possibly because of the "Snow White" flop

This is a major fiasco for Disney, although they will certainly recover with more successful projects

In the final analysis, the dismal flop of "Snow White" is probably because of a simple reason

It is probably not a good movie

‘Snow White’ Skids To No. 4 At Box Office With Single-Digit Take

Business for Disney’s "Snow White," starring Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot, is going from bad to worse.

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[Willie Oleson]

In the final analysis, the dismal flop of "Snow White" is probably because of a simple reason

It is probably not a good movie

Again, this is nonsense.

Superhero film Madame Web was (multi)universally criticised because people didn't like what they saw. That's how a film ends up with a 4.0 rating.

The Snow White flopbuster/disasterpiece is the result of a hate campaign (mostly Muricans, I suspect) and they've tried to do the same with GLADIATOR 2 but it didn't work.

Not that I'm going to lose any sleep over Snow White's misfortune and I'm actually curious to see if this is going to be some kind of turning point. It looks like the anti-woke camp is beginning to win territory, and money usually follows the trend....we'll see....

The Mouse could not have predicted Miss Zegler's disastrous PR stunt, but there were other hypothetically problematic issues that could have been easily avoided.
It's not as if this live action remake was going to be an epic challenge by default, and yet that's how they chose to do it.
On the other hand it's nice to think that the company had such tremendous confidence in the actress, and let's not forget that Liz Taylor played Cleopatra and nobody had a problem with that. Yet.

On an estimated $270 million budget

Was that the original budget or does that also include the money spent on damage control?

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

and let's not forget that Liz Taylor played Cleopatra and nobody had a problem with that.

Although, technically, Cleopatra was a descendent of the Ptolemy dynasty and not Egyptian. Thus, she would probably have had the coloring of a Sophia Loren -- or a Lena Horne at the darkest.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Again, this is nonsense.

Superhero film Madame Web was (multi)universally criticised because people didn't like what they saw. That's how a film ends up with a 4.0 rating.

The Snow White flopbuster/disasterpiece is the result of a hate campaign (mostly Muricans, I suspect) and they've tried to do the same with GLADIATOR 2 but it didn't work.

Not that I'm going to lose any sleep over Snow White's misfortune and I'm actually curious to see if this is going to be some kind of turning point. It looks like the anti-woke camp is beginning to win territory, and money usually follows the trend....we'll see....

The Mouse could not have predicted Miss Zegler's disastrous PR stunt, but there were other hypothetically problematic issues that could have been easily avoided.
It's not as if this live action remake was going to be an epic challenge by default, and yet that's how they chose to do it.
On the other hand it's nice to think that the company had such tremendous confidence in the actress, and let's not forget that Liz Taylor played Cleopatra and nobody had a problem with that. Yet.


Was that the original budget or does that also include the money spent on damage control?

It is not nonsense.
Numerous critics have written unfavorable reviews.
People have a right to their opinions, which is a matter of taste.
Show business is one that depends on consumer preferences and goodwill
Both positive and negative responses are a part of any production
Your point about "Madam Web"? Apparantly a bad movie according to reviews and the Box office
and out of context in this thread


The budget of $270 million was reported by multiple sources
It included reshoots, and the final number may be higher
It could be as high as $350 million
No it does not include damage control - that is nonsense.
The controversies - it is the age of social media.
Marketing and Promotion is part of the process
Controversial remarks and choices have effects and outcomes,
one of which is that consumers won't support a product if they find such remarks and choices disagreeable
And no, it wasn't just "Mericans? who didn't want o see the movie

Disney had to do damage control after the production was completed for reasons that were in the news
Disney limited coverage to photographers and a house crew, instead of the red carpet treatment - highly unusual for Disney,
who ususually invites dozens of media outlets to such events
Clearly, Disney did not have much confidence in the final product

You can certainly express an opinion about whether you like a movie or not.
But you did not proide any objective data about reasons for the film's catastrophic flop
Plenty of people didn't like the Disney Star Wars trilogy but it still had gross revenues in the billions,
even if it didn't please everyone.

I provided links from reputable sources, not nonsense
Before you call something nonsense, do some actual research instead of an subjective opinion with no basis

‘Snow White’: What the Critics Are Saying

The live-action adaptation of the 1937 Disney animated classic stars Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot and hits theaters on Friday.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Disney Scales Back ‘Snow White’ Hollywood Premiere Amid Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot Controversies

'Snow White' stars Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot have faced backlash for comments about the movie's reimagining and their views on the Israel-Hamas war.

variety.com

Snow White’s Budget Was Actually $350 Million and It’s Flopping

Disney’s highly anticipated live-action remake of Snow White has become one of the most expensive films in the studio’s history, with shocking new reports revealing that its budget ballooned to… The p...

www.yahoo.com

Snow White (2025 film) - Wikipedia

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[Willie Oleson]

Numerous critics have written unfavorable reviews.

It seems you don't understand the difference between "not liking" and "hating".

People have a right to their opinions, which is a matter of taste.

I didn't say that I dismisssed every review about the film.

The budget of $270 million was reported by multiple sources
It included reshoots, and the final number may be higher
No it does not include damage control

I think reshoots and lots of production delays because of the controversy is part of that damage control.

The film has two target audiences: the kids, and the adults who want to see it for nostalgia reasons. It doesn't take much to bedazzle a child and I don't think they would rate it a disaster.

Before you call something nonsense, do some actual research

You don't tell me what I should or shouldn't do.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

You don't tell me what I should or shouldn't do.

Research is nice, though. It makes you happy.

 

[Willie Oleson]

I know lots of people who tell me things. That will do.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

It seems you don't understand the difference between "not liking" and "hating".

I didn't say that I dismisssed every review about the film.

I think reshoots and lots of production delays because of the controversy is part of that damage control.

The film has two target audiences: the kids, and the adults who want to see it for nostalgia reasons. It doesn't take much to bedazzle a child and I don't think they would rate it a disaster.

You don't tell me what I should or shouldn't do.

The budget and production numbers, and the box revenues are objective numbers
The promotion and marketinfg were clearly downscaled
Based on the numbers, the movie is a catastrophic flop

When you present an unsupported opinion with no facts, it needs to be addressed

 

[Willie Oleson]

The budget and production numbers, and the box revenues are objective numbers

It's early days, and besides there are many examples of financial flops at the time or original release that became popular films at a later time.
To be fair, I'm not sure that will happen to Snow White, but when people start waving all sorts of stats in front of my nose I tend to zone out.

Snow White is not "just a flop", it's an exceptional situation.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

It's early days, and besides there are many examples of financial flops at the time or original release that became popular films at a later time.
To be fair, I'm not sure that will happen to Snow White, but when people start waving all sorts of stats in front of my nose I tend to zone out.

Snow White is not "just a flop", it's an exceptional situation.

Statistics, Facts, Data and information matter.
Otherwise, there is no objective standard
It is not early days, it is the third weekend,
and the first few weeks at box offices now are overwhelmingly crucial to a film's success