Bette Davis vs. Joan Crawford

Who do you prefer?

  • Bette Davis

    Votes: 18 51.4%
  • Joan Crawford

    Votes: 4 11.4%
  • Both

    Votes: 11 31.4%
  • Neither

    Votes: 2 5.7%

  • Total voters
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Barbara Fan

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That is a tremendous story! I really enjoyed reading it. It’s nice to see the average everyday person get to connect with the stars they admire so much

Oh i agree its very cool

2 former members here who used to post here when it was Ultimate Dallas and another girl who didnt post, got to work for LH and LG at events up to LH death in 2012 and its just so cool, like a dream come true. To cross the divide from fan to friend and they had some great photos too, spent time with larry in his penthouse and had a great time

It also worked in my favour as they only charged me half the price for autographs and photos with them!! which suited me nicely as it doesnt come cheap at events like Chiller.

My mum had Bette Davis's autograph and also Bing Crosby but i dont know where they are now, as BD was also her fav actress
 

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Have been in a Bette mood of late, found a couple of DVDs i hadnt watched in years and were my mums favourites

a few pics too from Night of the Iguana

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love BF x
 

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I think Bette Davis' interest was piqued when she read Ms. Geddes' critiques of the films; these weren't typical fan letters. Davis was very critical of herself and was someone who appreciated honesty.
 

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I think Bette Davis' interest was piqued when she read Ms. Geddes' critiques of the films; these weren't typical fan letters. Davis was very critical of herself and was someone who appreciated honesty.
i read this and thought I dont recall BB Geddes critiquing Bette Davis films then realised it was her Scottish friend Olive ;)

I can imagine Miss Davis was someone who liked when you got to the point and no soft soaping around a matter
I wouldnt like to cross her tho!!
 

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Much younger co-star Patrick O'Neal said Bette wouldn't stop harassing him sexually, at one point his screaming at her, "You f***ing horror, you -- you can't even act, you bitch!"

I mean, who did she think she was --- Joan Crawford??
 

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From Follies of God (I love their page!)

"I have always operated under the belief that everything was about to end--my present job, my entire career. There has been dread around every corner, and I feel I have to fight it. I feel that I have to elevate the work and my fellow workers, and I think--I know--that a lot of people can't imagine that everything will end. Well, I always knew the time was coming when I wouldn't and couldn't work as well as I once had, so I fought all the time to make it matter. I think things are better with a lot of sweat and a little blood on it--preferably more of theirs than mine, of course, but nice and wet and fought for."--Bette Davis/Interview with James Grissom #FolliesOfGod
Happy Birthday, Bette.

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"I'm not entirely negative when I say that people should be warned before they set out to be artists: There is some glory in what I'm saying, which is that the process never ends. Neither does the fear and the insecurity and the fighting to be seen and to be as good as only you know you can be. It never becomes easy; it might at times be easier, but that passes. All artists are up against the people--the money people--who just want a product at the end of the day, something to sell. And the artist is trying to really make something of value, trying to be something of value. This is a fight I still have every time I work. And I think it is asinine that this is not stressed more to young people, but I think the schools are afraid that the truth would send all those young dreamers out the door with their tuition money. If I were teaching--God help us all--I would tell the truth: It's going to be brutal, but you can make it glorious. And you're going to have to fight." --Bette Davis/Interview with James Grissom/1984/Photograph by Nancy Ellison/ #FolliesOfGod
Happy Birthday, Bette.

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"I do believe that professionalism is dead. The working situations I find today are ludicrous! There is so much waste--of time, of talent, of money. I worked like a demon all those years: You're looking at talent and sweat when you look at my work, but today there is very little work on the parts: the work is in the deals, the contracts, the publicity, and then a vacuum shows up on the screen or the stage. I see very little that interests or impresses me these days, and this makes me very sad, because I love the theatre and I love films. I don't think I'm an angry old lady, complaining about things and feeling left out. I have a body of work and a history that I think merits attention, and I think my opinion means something, and I think the work coming out now stinks!"--Bette Davis/Interview with James Grissom/1984
Happy Birthday, Bette,
Photo by Skrebneski

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And lastly from Follies of God

In honor of the great Bette Davis, who was born on this day in 1908, a costume sketch from our collection for Ms. Davis as ‘Lilly Moffat’ in the 1974 Pre-Broadway run of the infamous musical flop adaptation of the 1945 film “The Corn is Green,” retitled “Miss Moffat” and designed by Robert Mackintosh. From Stephen Cabral and Brendan Byrnes.

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ya know i tend to believe Joan's Daughter more so than Bette's because i read somewhere that Joan had horrible child hood and pretty much went through the same thing Christina and Christopher did because her mom would beat the hell out of her cause they were poor actually. & her mom worked at home doing laundry i think for a living making pretty much pennies. & she got her Obsession for having things be clean from that. i doubt that she ever sat and thought about it much but that's where she got it from. Joan's Daughter did show her i think the manuscript i'm not sure if it was before she had submitted it or after. but her last Will that she had left was written before she and her mother and made peace with each other which was why it was such a shock that she didn't get a cent. Joan never got around to changing it i don't think cause she was just to ill at that point. Christopher though doubt that would have changed though

well that's stuff i've read and seen in various documentaries anyways. now Bette's Daughter though her i cannot stand
 
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one thing i love about Bette Davis is that she could care less what she looked like on film and part of that was she never found herself sexy or alluring like hollywood did or many men and women for that matter. she always considered herself to be a plain looking woman and if you look at her pics before she put makeup on in hollywood she was kind of right. she wasn't ugly but if you look at certain ones she did look pretty in them and in others she looked pretty plain. than you have Crawford who was all about looks she hated getting older to the point that she stopped even leaving the house cause she didn't want the public to see she had gotten old. Where Davis kind of went with it and though she hated it too she joked about it and that's all ya can do really.

it's funny how on some things they had so much in common and in some they were so different from each others, such as both were strong women who worked for a living, not a lot of women did back than or if they did it was a lot less than the men did. though during WW 2 the women did since the men were away fighting,

both had the same amount of marriages and both had a child who went against them though Davis i think had it far worse than Crawford did in that area, while Crawford made up with her daughter before she died or so Christina Crawford has said and she may be right i dunno, Davis after her daughter wrote that terrible book barely even spoke to her i don't think. while both daughters no doubt did have a rough child hood with the way Christina was Raised compared and she may be telling the truth on most of it or lying on some of it i don't know i wasn't there. hers is more i think Believable than Davis's daughter who adored her daughter for many years and tried her best as far as i know with her, though no doubt Davis did drink i dunno how much though, putting her into whatever happened to Baby Jane ?(1962) for example is one that is close to her daughter i think. but she put the book out or announced it i forget when Davis was in the hospital for her 2nd stroke i think ?

i'd get upset to if i were her to be honest. yet it's funny that if you do some research Davis before the feud for years Idolized Crawford cause she had come from nothing like Davis as well & made something out of her like Davis as well. it's just a shame they hated each other so much
 

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1. i forgot to mention Davis's daughter's Husband being the reason on why she even wrote that book and such, and 2 WTF? is this?
 
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