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Take the Tish/Ted/Kathryn affair. As I mentioned before, it was refreshing as these stories go and had some great moments for Tish especially. Then, once Kathryn is gone, Tish announces that the feels special because Ted has been as sneaky with Tish as he usually is with all his other women, and off she goes to cook his supper. It left rather a bad taste in my mouth, because it undermined the strength and growth she’d shown during the affair.
I Havent got there yet, if i were Tish though, Id have packed his bags and left them on the doorstep - he is not a character I warm too at all. Far too smarmy for my liking and he treats his wife like a doormat

I find my self watching Crossroads and before you know it that 20 mins is over, so I think I will watch another

then another and before you know its 11.30pm

its very watchable and Im very grateful to Network from bringing out such a great box set
 

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Since Nolly and her mother appear so close off screen and she featured sitting on a pew at Coventry cathedral - Ive taken to Nolly mum watching or shall i say Jockey watching

and yes she did get to see her beloved daughter walking down the aisle albeit in a Soap to Hugh and appeared to the R of the cast in Birmingham cathedral



Still cant believe what Jill wore to her mothers wedding, looked like she was going for the shopping on a cold day!!

And Jockey appears in this - see clip below

I have never seen this before (and im not sure what Nolly is wearing, but she offered to change into this as she and interviewer had similar outfits on )

Its an interview of Nolly defending the show in front of an audience of critics - and she more than holds her own against them

She says Soap opera should be on every night for continuity - and until you work on the show no one has any idea of the pressure they are under
and the public enjoy it and the minute she didnt enjoy it she would stop it

And Im with Mrs Handley in the clip!!

 

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38 Years ago today Noele Gordon sadly died of stomach cancer - taken far too soon and had so much more to give in a very ground breaking and illustrious career

Here are a few more photos taken at St Marys Anglican Church in Ross on Wye last month









RIP Miss Noele Gordon and I would imaging she would be very pleased and this renewed interest in her life and career
 

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23 May - 2 July 1979
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Marian Owen: said:
She seems so vague but underneath it all there’s a very lively mind.


So sums up the workings of the latest significant newcomer in Kings Oak: Barbara Brady has arrived.

Every character with whom she interacts seems fascinated, suspicious, smitten or some combination of these.

Kings Oak’s answer to Richard Chamberlain, Dr Farnham, is practically fighting a duel with David to gain her attention, while Lloyd seems at least as interested in Barbara as he does Meg.

Meanwhile, there’s a hint of a background that’s anywhere between mysterious and sinister. Her arrival at Lloyd’s cottage before he’d even sent the letter requesting a housekeeper ensured that those around her started off on the back foot. Then there’s her apparent interest in murders and poisons. All keep the tongues wagging.

All signs point to her devious nature with the way she handles conversations in a way that gives nothing away about herself while revealing more about those with whom she’s speaking. I’m still not entirely sure what I’m supposed to make of her.

The way I’ve viewed the character has been coloured by the few pieces of information I’ve gleaned about actress Sue Lloyd in recent months: from her being characterised as a bitchy schemer in Nolly to an article in which she spoke about hooking up with Ronnie Allen weekdays before going home to her husband at weekends to that video James posted back on Page 8 where she appears even more frosty and imperious than Russell T. Davies’s writing suggested.

This means I probably found myself more critical of her performance than I might otherwise have been. The pouting. The almost porny "presenting" body language. The whimsical delivery - akin to a rather poor am dram performance of Private Lives. It irritated me.

Then there’s the air of smug entitlement. More than anyone else, I’m reminded of Tippi Hedren’s character in The Birds who simply appears in a sleepy little place then immediately seems to engineer drama for the sake of it, smirking the whole time.

However, a fun conversation between Barbara Brady and the newly-returned Sandy has gone some way towards diffusing my doubts and shifting my perception of the character. This was the conversation with the bonkers reveal that she is secretly.... romantic novelist Eleanor Ruskin. Whether intentional or otherwise (I like to think it is intentional), this explains away a lot of the things that were bothering me, and in turn makes Sue Lloyd’s performance seem significantly more palatable.

Have we turned a corner for good? I hope so. Especially since it seems her already significant screen time will only increase.

What else has happened? Well, Mac and Trina have married, and Sandy had the Polaroids to prove it.

The newly arrived Turveys look set to emigrate to New Zealand before we’ve even got to know them. Meanwhile, Cyril Watkins has shifted his sights from Doris Luke to surgery receptionist (dispensing receptionist, as it turns out) Marian Owen. It’s nice to see a little more of Margaret John, and I’ve enjoyed Cyril and Marian reflecting nostalgically about taking the paddle steamer from Cardiff to Clevedon and Weston-super-Mare.

The cause of their nostalgia was Doris Luke going to Weston to convalesce after a fall from a stepladder at the shop in which she punctured her lung (naturally, she wouldn’t hear of remuneration since she considers Cyril a friend). In reality, I suspect she’s not actually on a windy promenade overlooking the Severn Estuary, but scrubbing steps in Holmfirth. As always, I look forward to her return.

Sharon is involved in a storyline that’s somewhere between bizarre and sick. After being in a car accident in which the woman driving the other vehicle was killed, Sharon has not only befriended the dead woman's husband, she’s begun to form a tight family unit with him and his daughter (the daughter of the woman killed) who both appear to love her. You’d think even Sharon would draw the line here. It reflects poorly on her character to be moving in on a wealthy and ostensibly vulnerable man before his wife’s body is in the ground.

I say he’s “ostensibly vulnerable” because the signs are pointing towards him suspecting his wife of infidelity. He’s just made a threat of hired violence towards Victor Lee for having the sense to be concerned over the romance between him and Sharon, so the rules of soap say he probably had something to do with his wife’s vehicle being involved in the accident in the first place. We’ll see.

My favourite dialogue in this batch of episodes came with a throwaway catty line from David Hunter:

Meg: “Oh. This one’s sent a photo in answer to our advertisement for the Assistant Manager’s job.”
David [looking at the photo]: “He certainly didn’t mistake the advertisement for a beauty contest.”

The flat, matter-of-fact delivery and the way he swivelled his chair away as though disinterested immediately after the deadpan put-down made me laugh out loud. It’s also the moment where I suddenly realised that Ronald Allen resembles Ian McKellen at times.

Another piece of dialogue which amused me was posh teen Rebecca bemoaning the fact that her father hadn't given her a groovy first name like Sharon's. Incidentally, Rebecca planned to take her "new LP" over to her friends and picked up a pristine gatefold copy of Grease on vinyl. It was enough to make @Ome drool.

Over in psychic city, I swear Mac started to whistle the EastEnders theme in the garage, half a dozen years before that series began.
 

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Here are a few more photos taken at St Marys Anglican Church in Ross on Wye last month

Such a beautiful place, BF. I've visited Ross many times in the past and must have walked through that churchyard on almost every visit without ever realising Nolly was there. Next time I'm in the area I'll have to drop by again.

Thanks for sharing these. :hat:
 

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Found these little treasures on Youtube and very tongue in cheek

ATV staff party - where Meg came on dressed in black

well Benny does a stand up turn and also sings and is introduced by none other Super, smashing really great ............Jim Bowen

Who can I turn to, when Barton dont need me?
My heart wants to know, and so i must go
Where Denton will lead me
With no chance to guide me, and no Noele beside me


And Miss Diane and Adam Chance dressed as a scout and Brownie and yes its camp!


if only the cast of Dallas did this!! :laughing: Apologies if they have appeared here before, I couldnt find them
 

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Lovely review at @Mel O'Drama and look forwards to watching them, Im still with the awful Kathryn and Ted saga - although good old Lloyd has whisked Tish (shes great) off to an Am dram production

picked up a pristine gatefold copy of Grease on vinyl. It was enough to make @Ome drool.
Mine is up in the loft, do you think its worth a bob or two?

the one thing I remember about Barbara Brady was .... why doesnt she get her roots done and for some reason throught Cruella de Ville at the time - two tone hair

I look forwards to Miss Luke having an admirer, Kathy Staff was just wonderful
 

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As I said on another thread, I'm a big fan of the actor Barry Evans. Were the episodes of Crossroads that he appeared in part of the Network DVD collection? I don't remember much about his character and he wasn't in the series for that long but I'm curious to know if his episodes were included..

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well Benny does a stand up turn and also sings and is introduced by none other Super, smashing really great ............Jim Bowen
And Miss Diane and Adam Chance dressed as a scout and Brownie and yes its camp!

"You wanted to be a boy scout so you could salute me with three fingers vertical..."
"Instead of just two."

:D

These are great. They remind me of a Christmas episode I watched a while back where many of the characters did a little turn. It's fascinating to watch Paul Henry speaking in his own voice before slipping into his Benny character and then out again to sing.




Lovely review at @Mel O'Drama and look forwards to watching them

Thanks BF.



Mine is up in the loft, do you think its worth a bob or two?

Oh, I'm sure it is BF. Vinyl's all the rage, don't you know? ;)



I look forwards to Miss Luke having an admirer, Kathy Staff was just wonderful

I love the way her character has developed. Thinking back to her days on the farm, I can't help wondering if she was originally intended to be a temporary guest star but was just too good to lose.




As I said on another thread, I'm a big fan of the actor Barry Evans. Were the episodes of Crossroads that he appeared in part of the Network DVD collection? I don't remember much about his character and he wasn't in the series for that long but I'm curious to know if his episodes were included..

I may have imagined this but I think there's one episode... perhaps two. Darned if I can remember anything about it now, though as it was a while back.

IMDb has just one episode listed for him (#2450), and since that episode is present in The Noele Gordon Collection, I'd guess that's the one that remains.
 

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Nice interview re anti smoking campaign from 1977

Noele is interviewed in Make up and love how her towel and make up gown coordinate colour wise, I wouldnt expect anything less :)


and interviewback stage at Call me Madam in 1982 when rehearsing


and Nolly and Chris Tarrant at a toy fair in B'ham,

 

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. It's fascinating to watch Paul Henry speaking in his own voice before slipping into his Benny character and then out again to sing.
Oh I agree - I always think it must be quite hard work to play a character - not in your own voice - and to maintain that throughout a show and over a long period of time

I think the 1st time i heard Paul Henry being himself was in Tiswas - although he was appearing as Benny!!

 

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Nice interview re anti smoking campaign from 1977

Noele is interviewed in Make up and love how her towel and make up gown coordinate colour wise, I wouldnt expect anything less :)

Very eloquent, too. She really knows the series and its subjects well.

"If Doctor Avery watched Crossroads, which he evidently doesn't, he would know..."

"Again, if Doctor Avery watched it, he would realise that none of us on the serial smoke, and never have done."

I love how she can sniff out the non-viewer and gently point out that they're missing out.



and interviewback stage at Call me Madam in 1982 when rehearsing

Drat... it cuts out just at the most interesting point. I'd like to hear her say why she doesn't miss working on television.
 

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I may have imagined this but I think there's one episode... perhaps two. Darned if I can remember anything about it now, though as it was a while back.

IMDb has just one episode listed for him (#2450), and since that episode is present in The Noele Gordon Collection, I'd guess that's the one that remains.
Thank you.

I have a feeling that IMDB might be wrong because I think Barry Evans was in Crossroads for about a week. Maybe just the one episode from his stint in the show remains so that's all they have been able to reference. It's good that at least some of his time on Crossroads has been preserved.
 

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He is in the epiosde round about Christmas time as the kids come carol singing, he doesnt appear in the next episode tho

Dug it out, just for you @Angela Channing Didnt realise he died in early 90s x





Thanks @Barbara Fan.

Yes, sadly he died alone in his flat in suspicious circumstances. He was far too young. I vaguely remember him in from the 1970s in Crossroads, an episode of Crown Court and repeats of Doctor In The House.
 

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For anyone on FB there is a wonderful tongue in cheek page called Meg Mortimer

I discovered it last week and before i knew it an hour had passed with much laughing to myself over some of the posts

it was LOL funny and whoever writes it is very drole and clever


I loved this from a Feb post

Run orf my feet today as I do press for the 'Kings Oak Players' latest production.

Obviously I look and sound nothing like her, - even Miss Tatum couldn't see it and she's waiting on cataract surgery - but as Lloyd Munro says, 'We're just going for an essence, Meg!' as he gave me a standing ovation.

Concentrating on the period before the sofa ads where she's married to Tim Burton and they live in connecting houses. We've gone gender-neutral and colour blind with the casting and Trina Macdonald plays my husband. Rather radical, but Wilf Harvey, our first choice, said the wigs were too itchy.

Not available to the general public until the Autumn where we'll still be doing 2 for 1 Tuesdays, but apparently those who've seen the previews have been left open mouthed.


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Didnt realise he died in early 90s x
Yes, sadly he died alone in his flat in suspicious circumstances. He was far too young.

Yes, as Angela will remember, I wasn't too familiar with him until I watched Mind Your Language a few months ago. We ended up chatting about him a bit in The Great British Sitcom thread as I really liked his performance there.



For anyone on FB there is a wonderful tongue in cheek page called Meg Mortimer

Darn - it says "page unavailable" so must be one of those where you need to be logged in. But it's made my day just to know this exists.



I loved this from a Feb post

Oh, how that made me chuckle.

"Obviously I look and sound nothing like her..."

"Apparently those who've seen the previews have been left open mouthed."

That poster is fantastic and very creative. Such attention to detail, right down to name-checking Johnny "Let's murder the Crossroads theme" Patrick.
 

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Somehow I dont see Meg / Noele ever wearing a Vivienne Westwood, but then again - neither would I :)

That poster is fantastic and very creative.

He is (or maybe its a she) but they are very witty and have a great sense of humour, I was surprised at how quickly an hour passed reading all the old stuff
 

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Ironically, the staff shortage has brought us a sea of new and returning faces. There have been a series of new workers who’ve apparently come out of the kitchen to help out. And everyone knows them well even though we’ve never seen them before.

First there was the cheeky-faced chatty Irish girl who knew everyone and their business. Her more permanent replacement seems to be loveable Florence, played by an Upstairs Downstairs favourite Jenny Tomasin (whose UpDown character, too, had stepped into the shoes of a short-lived Irish predecessor). Already she’s proving worth her weight in gold. Her character here is essentially a contemporary version of Ruby, and that’s fine. You can’t have too much of a good thing, so why reinvent the wheel?

For some inexplicable reason, Ruby is living at Chimneys with Jill. They were briefly joined by con artist/suspected sex worker/general purpose troublemaker Norma who imposed herself into the household by pretending she was a pregnant woman in need of help. Norma spent all her time putting down poor Florence and, for a brief window, she’d even thought Florence was one of Jill’s fallen women:
Norma Cooke said:
It does ‘appen, you know. Mind you, you might be a bit pushed for the necessary cooperation.

Norma and her fella have now been ejected from the house by Jill, but not before she’d avenged herself by stuffing three or four tins of Jill’s baked beans down her boyfriend’s leather jacket (at least he had the brains to suggest stealing a bottle of booze). Oh, and she also pointedly dropped Jill in it with Stan’s personal assistant Fräulein Freya Offermans by telling her about the small matter of Jill losing her temper and splitting young Sarah-Jane’s lip.

Fräulein Offermans is now engaged to be married to Stan and continues to be his de facto presence on the series as they push for custody of Sarah-Jane. It’s a shame Stan himself hasn’t appeared for the divorce/custody hearing (where Jill is represented by General von Klinkerhoffen himself). As is typical, Stan’s being portrayed in a somewhat unsympathetic light since we continue to see him through the prism of Jill’s victimhood.

I don’t know, though. Jill’s far from being written as mother of the year. Incidents such as her being too self-absorbed to remember to collect her daughter, or the above-mentioned domestic violence go quite some way to adding balance and creating at least a little more sympathy for Stan. Which is an improvement on the Saint Jill/Nasty Stan writing.

And while Jill is knocking her daughter round, Sandy has tried his hand at being a sex pest as he terrorises a woman with silent phone calls. The woman in question - Anna Drew - is a friend of Sandy’s former fiancée Fay Mansfield, and that’s who he’s been trying to reach. This being Xrds with its revolving door, Fay herself is nowhere to be seen, and Anna’s confrontation with Sandy (in the store cupboard he’s converted into his new office) ended with him buying her a meal after she helped with the typing.

Meanwhile, Meg’s being helped out by a former teacher who was struck off for an affair with one of his students (Jill’s, naturally, is the loudest voice of condemnation). He is a sleaze, who is out to get a stake in the motel and to con Meg into unknowingly employing his new girlfriend.

Former stories have been either wrapped up or put on hold. Sharon ended things with her suitor after discovering he was pretending to love his dead wife as much as he did so that he could guilt her into a relationship. Barbara Brady’s secret life as an author is out, and neither she nor the cottage have been seen for a while now (I can’t say I’ve missed them), with Lloyd back to dispensing sage pearls of wisdom in the motel foyer.

Meanwhile, over at the new adjoining farm, Benny is back where he thought he wanted to be, only for him to end up bullied by his religious zealot of a new gaffer, who doesn’t allow his beautiful niece a looking glass because they’re the invention of satan. And you can imagine how he feels about television.

Alison (the beautiful-niece-who-doesn’t-know-she’s-beautiful) has had a shocking head scar reveal moment. A full decade and a half before Kimberly Shaw’s.

Benny’s taking it all in stride, even when new gaffer goes full on Fred Phelps on him. When gravely asked if he ever wrestled with his own conscience, Benny furrowed his brow for a few moments before earnestly replying:

Benny said:
I wrestled with George Biggins once.
 

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Ironically, the staff shortage has brought us a sea of new and returning faces. There have been a series of new workers who’ve apparently come out of the kitchen to help out. And everyone knows them well even though we’ve never seen them before.

First there was the cheeky-faced chatty Irish girl who knew everyone and their business. Her more permanent replacement seems to be loveable Florence, played by an Upstairs Downstairs favourite Jenny Tomasin (whose UpDown character, too, had stepped into the shoes of a short-lived Irish predecessor). Already she’s proving worth her weight in gold. Her character here is essentially a contemporary version of Ruby, and that’s fine. You can’t have too much of a good thing, so why reinvent the wheel?

For some inexplicable reason, Ruby is living at Chimneys with Jill. They were briefly joined by con artist/suspected sex worker/general purpose troublemaker Norma who imposed herself into the household by pretending she was a pregnant woman in need of help. Norma spent all her time putting down poor Florence and, for a brief window, she’d even thought Florence was one of Jill’s fallen women:


Norma and her fella have now been ejected from the house by Jill, but not before she’d avenged herself by stuffing three or four tins of Jill’s baked beans down her boyfriend’s leather jacket (at least he had the brains to suggest stealing a bottle of booze). Oh, and she also pointedly dropped Jill in it with Stan’s personal assistant Fräulein Freya Offermans by telling her about the small matter of Jill losing her temper and splitting young Sarah-Jane’s lip.

Fräulein Offermans is now engaged to be married to Stan and continues to be his de facto presence on the series as they push for custody of Sarah-Jane. It’s a shame Stan himself hasn’t appeared for the divorce/custody hearing (where Jill is represented by General von Klinkerhoffen himself). As is typical, Stan’s being portrayed in a somewhat unsympathetic light since we continue to see him through the prism of Jill’s victimhood.

I don’t know, though. Jill’s far from being written as mother of the year. Incidents such as her being too self-absorbed to remember to collect her daughter, or the above-mentioned domestic violence go quite some way to adding balance and creating at least a little more sympathy for Stan. Which is an improvement on the Saint Jill/Nasty Stan writing.

And while Jill is knocking her daughter round, Sandy has tried his hand at being a sex pest as he terrorises a woman with silent phone calls. The woman in question - Anna Drew - is a friend of Sandy’s former fiancée Fay Mansfield, and that’s who he’s been trying to reach. This being Xrds with its revolving door, Fay herself is nowhere to be seen, and Anna’s confrontation with Sandy (in the store cupboard he’s converted into his new office) ended with him buying her a meal after she helped with the typing.

Meanwhile, Meg’s being helped out by a former teacher who was struck off for an affair with one of his students (Jill’s, naturally, is the loudest voice of condemnation). He is a sleaze, who is out to get a stake in the motel and to con Meg into unknowingly employing his new girlfriend.

Former stories have been either wrapped up or put on hold. Sharon ended things with her suitor after discovering he was pretending to love his dead wife as much as he did so that he could guilt her into a relationship. Barbara Brady’s secret life as an author is out, and neither she nor the cottage have been seen for a while now (I can’t say I’ve missed them), with Lloyd back to dispensing sage pearls of wisdom in the motel foyer.

Meanwhile, over at the new adjoining farm, Benny is back where he thought he wanted to be, only for him to end up bullied by his religious zealot of a new gaffer, who doesn’t allow his beautiful niece a looking glass because they’re the invention of satan. And you can imagine how he feels about television.

Alison (the beautiful-niece-who-doesn’t-know-she’s-beautiful) has had a shocking head scar reveal moment. A full decade and a half before Kimberly Shaw’s.

Benny’s taking it all in stride, even when new gaffer goes full on Fred Phelps on him. When gravely asked if he ever wrestled with his own conscience, Benny furrowed his brow for a few moments before earnestly replying:
Love reading your reviews, they bring back so many fond memories of when I originally watched the series. You really are racing through it if you've already got to the Alison Cotterill storyline.
 
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