Dallas Being Ignored By The Emmy Awards

[Rove]

VP going to be Emmy nominated for Swan Song. It sadly didn’t happen. I mean what more did she have to do in that episode to get an Emmy nod for that?!

When we hear Bobby flatline and Pam's astute reaction to it; that there should have garnered Victoria an Emmy win. During its course Lorimar Dallas had some brilliant scenes but that one gets me every time.

 

[Toni]

Priscilla Presley should have been nominated for an academy award for her incredible turn as Jenna. Also, Chris Atkins for Peedur.

 

[Taylor Bennett Jr.]

Priscilla Presley should have been nominated for an academy award for her incredible turn as Jenna. Also, Chris Atkins for Peedur.

I'd like to have seen a rare Double Emmy for Sandy Ward and John Ashton as Jeb Ames and Willie Joe Garr

(kind of like a 'double murder')

 

[Bill Dilks]

I think this guy, Jerry Hardin, deserved an award as Elroy Askie for his brief shots in MAKING OF A PRESIDENT.

 

[Toni]

Big awards, no matter their name, are all a recognition from the fellow actors which, sometimes, maybe also be two other things:
a) A big FU to others who are making a lot more than the other nominees (probably Larry´s case);
and b) A random winning because two others presumably had it in their pocket, and voters decided to go for somebody else (the "third candidate" win).

For the rest of the world, awards are just something to gossip about. To report about, to discuss, to criticize about. I love the glamour of the galas just because I don´t have it in my world and it´s fun to watch it, even if they are two-days long. But they attract negativity from the media (social or not) like few other things from showbusiness. Many people think it´s something that tries to impose their opinions about the quality and what not. That´s foolish.

In the case of the supersoaps, I think "Dallas" was the luckiest one because at least got the Emmy for Barbara and 3 other awards for music and Travilla´s gowns (as "Dynasty" got one for Nolan Miller). It also got a few more nominations for the actors and technical categories. But "Dynasty" and, very especially "Knots" and "Falcon Crest", weren´s so lucky and got only one for best music.

On the other side, the Golden Globes were kinder to both "Dynasty" and "Falcon". They were more popular than the Emmys and more precise for distinguishing between genres and show form. But it was like the ice in the cake. The best was what we had: being able to watch them on a regular basis (some countries more fortunate than others regarding that...). At this time of the run, I don´t really care if they treated "Dallas" badly because it´s not my problem, it´s the frekking "Atas"´s (the Academy...).

Victoria attending one of the Emmy Galas she gave an award at
(isn´t she lovely...?)​

 

[Bill Dilks]

With those shoulder pads, maybe Swellen and Pam could've tried out for the NFL.

 

[Taylor Bennett Jr.]

ha,

With those shoulder pads, maybe Swellen and Pam could've tried out for the NFL.

ha, Butkus had nothing on the ladies of mid-80s Dallas!

(shown here preparing to take on lead blocker Sue Ellen as shifty ballcarrier Pam darts past the line of scrimmage)

 

[Lastkidpicked]

Priscilla Presley should have been nominated for an academy award for her incredible turn as Jenna. Also, Chris Atkins for Peedur.

To be fair, Peter's speedo's did win the award for supporting actor.

 

[Bill Dilks]

To be fair, Peter's speedo's did win the award for supporting actor.

Yeah...for a bit part.

 

[Lastkidpicked]

Yeah...for a bit part.

Bwhahahaha!

Your comment is nuts.

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

Priscilla Presley should have been nominated for an academy award for her incredible turn as Jenna. Also, Chris Atkins for Peedur.

Oh yeah, most wooden actress in a drama series with a plastic expression.

And the just introduced best young male actor, half naked in speedo's award!

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

DALLAS received about 30 Emmy nominations over the years, and won a small handful.

Larry was nominated for an Emmy in 1980, and BBG won:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32nd_Primetime_Emmy_Awards
And the series was also nominated in 1980 for Outstanding Drama Series

DALLAS, Larry and BBG were nominated again in 1981, Linda too, Jim Davis posthumously:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_Primetime_Emmy_Awards

Other categories:

1983
Outstanding Music Composition - Series
Bruce Broughton
Won

1984
Outstanding Music Composition - Series
Bruce Broughton
Won

1985
Outstanding Costumes for a Series
William Travilla
Won

1979
Outstanding Film Editing - Series
Fred W. Berger
Nominated

1979
Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series
Barbara Bel Geddes
Nominated

1979
Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing - Comedy Series
Fred W. Berger
Nominated

1979
Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing - Drama Series
Fred W. Berger
Nominated

1980
Outstanding Drama Series
Lee Rich, Philip Capice, Leonard Katzman
Nominated

1980
Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series
Larry Hagman
Nominated

1980
Outstanding Music Composition - Series
Bruce Broughton
Nominated

1981
Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing - Comedy Series
Fred W. Berger
Nominated

1981
Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series
Barbara Bel Geddes, Linda Gray
Nominated

1981
Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing - Drama Series
Fred W. Berger
Nominated

1981
Outstanding Film Editing - Series
Fred W. Berger
Nominated

1981
Outstanding Drama Series
Philip Capice, Leonard Katzman
Nominated

1981
Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series
Jim Davis, Larry Hagman
Nominated

1982
Outstanding Film Editing - Series
Fred W. Berger
Nominated

1982
Outstanding Music Composition - Series
Bruce Broughton
Nominated

1982
Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing - Comedy Series
Fred W. Berger
Nominated

1982
Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing - Drama Series
Fred W. Berger
Nominated

1983
Outstanding Film Editing - Series
Fred W. Berger
Nominated

1983
Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing - Comedy Series
Fred W. Berger
Nominated

1983
Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing - Drama Series
Fred W. Berger
Nominated

1986
Outstanding Costumes for a Series
William Travilla
Nominated

1987
Outstanding Music Composition - Series
Angela Morley
Nominated

1988
Outstanding Music Composition - Series
Angela Morley
Nominated

 

[bmasters9]

Like the Oscars it's become too political and irrelevant.

And I think the #metoo/#timesup virus might have infected the Emmys as well-- hope it hasn't, or that it never does!

 

[Kenny Coyote]

And I think the #metoo/#timesup virus might have infected the Emmys as well-- hope it hasn't, or that it never does!

What would one have to do with the other? One is a business ethics issue and the other is (theoretically) an award for making great television.

The Emmys have been so out of touch with what people actually like that they're practically irrelevant. I looked at the years of Dallas seasons 3 through 7, none of which won an Emmy award for best series, and found out who did win. A series named Lou Grant won the Emmy in the year that was season 3 of Dallas - the events leading up to and including the shooting of JR Ewing. Does anybody remember what happened in Lou Grant that year?

In the years of seasons 4 through 7 of Dallas, the Emmy award for best dramatic series went to Hill Street Blues every single time. Hill Street Blues - a show that never cracked the top twenty in the ratings. Their first season won the Emmy while coming in 87th place in the ratings. 87th place. They should have named the award "TV so great the public just can't possibly appreciate its brilliance."

 

[bmasters9]

What would one have to do with the other? One is a business ethics issue and the other is (theoretically) an award for making great television. TV so great the public just can't possibly appreciate its brilliance.

The Emmys have been so out of touch with what people actually like that they're practically irrelevant. I looked at the years of Dallas seasons 3 through 7, none of which won an Emmy award for best series, and found out who did win. A series named Lou Grant won the Emmy in the year that was season 3 of Dallas - the events leading up to and including the shooting of JR Ewing. Does anybody remember what happened in Lou Grant that year?

In the years of seasons 4 through 7 of Dallas, the Emmy award for best dramatic series went to Hill Street Blues every single time. Hill Street Blues - a show that never cracked the top twenty in the ratings. Their first season won the Emmy while coming in 87th place in the ratings. 87th place. They should have named the award "TV so great the public just can't possibly appreciate its brilliance."

Great points! #metoo and #timesup have many times often mentioned in the same breath as the Oscars when the Oscars are reported on lately, that I assumed their pernicious influence would spread from one to the other.

Just the same, there is one who has had a very good series that I hope wins the Emmy for it-- that being Joey King on The Act (have you ever seen that Hulu series where she was Gypsy Rose Blanchard?).

 

[Mel O'Drama]

In the years of seasons 4 through 7 of Dallas, the Emmy award for best dramatic series went to Hill Street Blues every single time. Hill Street Blues - a show that never cracked the top twenty in the ratings. Their first season won the Emmy while coming in 87th place in the ratings. 87th place.

But that's a little like saying Deadpool would have been a more deserved Academy Award winner than Green Book because lots more people went to watch it.

Shouldn't how well something is crafted count for something. HSB was innovative and took risks in how it was filmed and put together. Dallas was good TV, but generally didn't do that.

 

[Kenny Coyote]

Shouldn't how well something is crafted count for something.

The question I have there is by what standard does how well something is crafted get decided?

 

[Mel O'Drama]

The question I have there is by what standard does how well something is crafted get decided?

Well in this particular case, according to the Emmy website, by the standard of "24,000+ voting members within 29 peer groups, each representing specific television industry professions".

 

[Kenny Coyote]

Well in this particular case, according to the Emmy website, by the standard of "24,000+ voting members within 29 peer groups, each representing specific television industry professions".

That tells us whose standard, but not what standard how well something is crafted gets decided.

I went to the website to find out if they stated what the criteria is for judging the winners, and it only said "Voters choose the entries they feel exemplify excellence in their categories." Voting is based on what one "feels is excellent" is pretty vague, much more vague than what one "thinks is excellent." One is the result of emotion and the other the result of thought.

There's still the matter of criteria. Without a set of criteria by which the contestants or nominees are scored, it's still a popularity contest - the popularity of a relatively small group of people.

I think it's nice to be recognized and appreciated by one's peers, but it's still a popularity contest - just one of a select group of people.

 

[James from London]

In the UK, we have the British Soap Awards which is a big televised thing. I've never really been a fan of it (even though I did end up being a joke writer for it one year!), partly cos it feels like it kind of separates those involved from the 'proper' TV awards, but mostly cos it's just a big publicity machine anyway (like most, if not all, awards).

These days, whenever there's a standout scene or episode of EastEnders, say, people rush on to Twitter to say "X should get the 'Best Actor' at the Soap Awards for that!" I can't help feeling that that minimises their performance in a way, a bit like saying they should get an award like a dog gets a treat for performing a trick. Also, it's a way of trying to quantify something you've been moved by. "Brilliant performance = prize." Maybe it's cos I'm old enough to remember being blown away by an episode of Brookside or Enders or Dallas before the internet or soap awards existed when you'd just sort of sit there afterwards not knowing to do with yourself cos it had been so exciting or devastating or whatever. You didn't think about awards, or even about the actors, you just thought about the story and the characters and how amazing it had been.