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Haha, "At least by Season 9, they gave her a medical excuse."
I agree. They kind of destroyed Krystle after season 2.
I'm a bit surprised to hear that. I had no idea season 7 had such a bad taste to other fans. I loved it!
Haha, "At least by Season 9, they gave her a medical excuse."
I agree. They kind of destroyed Krystle after season 2.
I'm a bit surprised to hear that. I had no idea season 7 had such a bad taste to other fans. I loved it!
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Interesting. As I said above, I do think season 7 had a lot of possibility: it had a lot of structural similarity to Season 2, I felt.I'm a bit surprised to hear that. I had no idea season 7 had such a bad taste to other fans. I loved it!
But the stuff that made Season 2 so good just wasn't there for me in Season 7.
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I think had they kept the original storylines for season 7, which included: Amanda and Michael Culhane marrying, them and Blake getting caught up in an explosion along with an avalanche at the end of the season, plus Sammy Jo and Steven remarrying, Krystle having a brain tumor in that year also, rather than replacing them with a half baked Steven and Sammy Jo reunion, Krystina's heart story, Sarah Curtis, Leslie Carrington, and everyone being nice and lovey dovey, I think season 7 would be a decent - not brilliant but decent season, the first half was certainly good, but after the love remembered episodes things went downhill fast, at least with season 6 the midseason retool wasn't as jarring, where as the midseason retool in season 7 was complete with personality changes and everything, I also dislike season 8, though it was the first consistent season since season 5,
Seasons 7 & 8 come across as overly 80s where as earlier seasons had a certain ambiguity of its time frame, yes obviously Dynasty was made in the 80s but seasons 1-6 it could've been set in any decade between the 1920s-1960s.
That's my main gripe with season 7 (and 8) as it was too late 80s.
Seasons 7 & 8 come across as overly 80s where as earlier seasons had a certain ambiguity of its time frame, yes obviously Dynasty was made in the 80s but seasons 1-6 it could've been set in any decade between the 1920s-1960s.
That's my main gripe with season 7 (and 8) as it was too late 80s.
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I didn't know they had planned this cliffhanger.
To me, the late 80s feels like a beige no-man's-land when it comes to pop culture. It's obvious that "the party is over" and I find season 8 a little bit depressing, but I like the DVD artwork.
Season 9 looked like a fresh & cool revamp, ready for the 90s.
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Yeah.
Alexis had a rather easy role to play. In fact, in the scenes where Joan/Alexis is emotional and sad, I thought the acting was sooo bad!
Meh, I wouldn't say "sooo bad", just bad. lol But I think the way how Joan played those scenes worked for Alexis; it just seemed "part of her character".
Heh, its kind've funny how you seem to excuse bad acting being apart of the show before ripping into Ben and Kirby for their acting. I personally enjoyed Cazenove's portrayal of Ben - at least in season 6 and season 7a, when he was an evil, manipulative bastard. He was campy, but it fit the overall tone the show had at that time. He was oddly entertaining. I also think you're a little bit too harsh on Kathleen Beller. Yes, she was bad too, but there were times when Kirby was actually smiling and laughing. It was those moments that won me over; for me, an actor doesn't have to be necessarily talented, just charming and enjoyable to watch. And that could describe the majority of the cast. lol
So far, the only character in the DYNASTY-verse who never won me over was Claire Yarlett as Bliss. She looked perfect for the part, but had too little substance to her. But yeah, I've already b*tched about her enough. XD
Although I thought even John Forsythe had his moments of awful acting. ^^
Um, no, she wasn't. She was actually roughly the same color/shade as the other white characters on the show. Though her jet-black hair probably made her look paler than she really was. Meh.
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I first read about it in the series bible on a French fan website.
Yeah, there was something distinctly "90s" about season 9, like it was ready for a brand new era!
Oh, my!
Makes it seem more exciting than it really was. lol
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Maybe now, but we're talking 1986 ... and Soapland. Dynasty isn't based on reality, you know ... it's all fiction ... Denver Carrington, Colbyco ... none of those really exists. Hope i don't ruin your world picture here
Singapore's state of cleanliness was world-renowned even in the 1980s, due to first Prime Minister Lee Kwan Yew's mid-60s vision for turning the tiny island-nation into a "first-world oasis in a third-world region". Its determination on cleanliness reached a zenith when it banned chewing gum in the early ‘90s, and this was widely reported and talked about internationally.
But Singapore met with outrage because it upheld, still upholds, caning and the death penalty in sentencing measures on a whole menu of acts deemed criminal; which the SPS is legally obliged to carry out.
As for filthy, prison cells, I suspect that the idea that non-Western world nations have living standards less than the "first-world" is so deeply imprinted in the human psyche that even works of fiction can't escape the thinking. And, when called out on these works of fiction, the knee-jerk reaction is to deny the ignorance of the true situation with cries along the lines of "get real, it's only fiction". If folk want to be dim witted about things and show it to the world, my reaction is to say: Be my guest & brace yourself.
@Matthew Blaisdel I had hoped you could have discerned my comments for what they were. Krystle was free to have her memories in prison in her alone moments, though having them centered on her comparing prison experiences rather than family times or lost love is unbelievable. I didn't dismiss your plotless Dynasty fan fic idea out of hand -- even though it was more a Caress’s prison story II. I went with your idea but attempted, clumsily, to improve it and not repeat the exact formula; by turning it into a character- and true environment-driven scenario grounded in some realism. Soapland is far better off with that.
And, no, you can't possibly ruin my world picture.
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I tend to be overly critical and negative sometimes. But I really love the show. But at the same time I feel they could have done more with it and the actors. The character Nick Toscanni should have stayed on longer (funny thing is Blake never said a word about him and Fallon together, did Blake even know about it?). I liked him and Fallon as a couple, and speaking of acting, I think PSM did an excellent job with her role.
In the relationship between Alexis and Blake, he was cold and very formal towards her. If Alexis hadn't constantly interfered Blake wouldn't have given her the time of day. That bit I think the writers handled pretty well. Alexis never stopped wanting Blake back and that became her main motive in everything she did to him, good or bad. The writers could easily have made Alexis all about revenge but for someone like her that would be too common and simple. The triangle between Blake, Krystle and Alexis was the gem of the show, for me. A complex thing based on lust, hate, greed, love, remorse and not cherishing what you have.
Sorry if I digress from season 7 talks.
In the relationship between Alexis and Blake, he was cold and very formal towards her. If Alexis hadn't constantly interfered Blake wouldn't have given her the time of day. That bit I think the writers handled pretty well. Alexis never stopped wanting Blake back and that became her main motive in everything she did to him, good or bad. The writers could easily have made Alexis all about revenge but for someone like her that would be too common and simple. The triangle between Blake, Krystle and Alexis was the gem of the show, for me. A complex thing based on lust, hate, greed, love, remorse and not cherishing what you have.
Sorry if I digress from season 7 talks.
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Snarky, is that you?
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That's okay, we all get that way sometimes. But yeah, that does sum up how most fans react to the show: we love it, but we wish more had been done with it. And you hit the nail on the head when it came to Alexis; had she just been all about revenge, she wouldn't have been able to last as long. Instead, her motives were based off a sick mixture of all you described, and that gave her what she needed to be around for 8 long years....
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I didn't know they had planned this cliffhanger.
To me, the late 80s feels like a beige no-man's-land when it comes to pop culture. It's obvious that "the party is over" and I find season 8 a little bit depressing, but I like the DVD artwork.
Season 9 looked like a fresh & cool revamp, ready for the 90s.
Oh, my!
The Avalanche cliffhanger was discussed earlier in the season, when it was planned for Steven and Sammy Jo to remarry at the end of the season (Dana was supposed to be a short term character) I think the Avalanche/bomb was to be a joint cliffhanger, Blake, Amanda and Michael would head off to the courts after the ceremony, the bomb would cause the Avalanche, this would've been much better than the Matthew returns from the dead 'cliffhanger'
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That surprises me, it really does. Because I've been on this site for 14 years now and this is the first time I read about it.
I know that we discussed the possibility, and I had read about the snowstorm cliffhanger, but that was during the '85-'86 period.
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I agree. That cliffhanger is much better than the one that was.
Too bad the writers did such a sloppy work and didn't plan ahead. There are a lot of "plot holes" or what to call them..
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I wouldn't have minded them using this cliffhanger if they had not revealed it was Matthew straight away, I would had a freeze frame on Blake and Krystle after Blake says "Oh my god, I thought you were dead" then we could wonder who could've returned: Claudia? Lindsey? Mark even!?! And then reveal Matthew in the 8th season premier, even this idea sounds crap though tbh
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I only heard it was an idea for the '86-'87 season, very early on though before the season 7 retooling period.
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I think the only way to do it was to do it fast. Bam! He's back!
OMG! To be continued.
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I wouldn't mind this outcome had Matthew stayed on longer than two episodes, and have him hang around for half a season at least, but instead his return was under utilised
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Well I meant the way he was re-introduced. I'm not sure what Matthew should have done all those episodes....they had already done a long-running hostage storyline.
Come to think of it, what if Matthew had come back a season earlier, and discovered Krystle in the attic? And then no-one would find out that Sammy Jo had anything to do with it and she could continue to be the scheming vixen.
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Interesting!
Claudia - now, that would have been tantalizing. Maybe she could have had a nasty burn on one side of her face. And then the Carringtons would appeal to her "good face".
Claudia was so normal at times and then wham, she needed that straight jacket pretty bad.