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It's a worrying development that a extreme right wing party with a nazi past could win a general election in Sweden and got so much support from young people.
 

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It's a worrying development that a extreme right wing party with a nazi past could win a general election in Sweden and got so much support from young people.

Won is relative here. They got 20% of the votes. 80% didn't vote for them. But it's worrying they're now the 2nd biggest party. However, all parties have some good ideas. Their positive is that unlike the other 3 right-wing parties, they don't want to reduce the unemployment benefit.

In the parliament now, the four left/center parties have 173 seats while the four right-wing parties have 176 seats. Only 2 people from the right-wing parties need to say no for the other side to win. Two of the right-wing parties don't agree on much.

So I'm not too worried. The new government won't get to do anything they like. Especially considering it's very unlikely that all 4 will be included in the government. It will be a constant give and take situation with many things getting a big fat no.

What I fully expect to happen is more nuclear power, lower taxes, more loans so the taxes can be reduced, less benefits for the poorest people, stronger laws & punishment for crimes, more deportations for asylum seekers etc.
 

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Won is relative here. They got 20% of the votes. 80% didn't vote for them. But it's worrying they're now the 2nd biggest party. However, all parties have some good ideas. Their positive is that unlike the other 3 right-wing parties, they don't want to reduce the unemployment benefit.

In the parliament now, the four left/center parties have 173 seats while the four right-wing parties have 176 seats. Only 2 people from the right-wing parties need to say no for the other side to win. Two of the right-wing parties don't agree on much.

So I'm not too worried. The new government won't get to do anything they like. Especially considering it's very unlikely that all 4 will be included in the government. It will be a constant give and take situation with many things getting a big fat no.

What I fully expect to happen is more nuclear power, lower taxes, more loans so the taxes can be reduced, less benefits for the poorest people, stronger laws & punishment for crimes, more deportations for asylum seekers etc.
You know a lot more about Swedish politics than I do so I may be wrong about this but as the left has been in power for so long, I can see the right wing parties agreeing on some kind of compromise to form the next government as now is the best opportunity for them to take power. It might not be the most stable government but they may see it as a better option than letting the Social Democrats back into power.
 

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You know a lot more about Swedish politics than I do so I may be wrong about this but as the left has been in power for so long, I can see the right wing parties agreeing on some kind of compromise to form the next government as now is the best opportunity for them to take power. It might not be the most stable government but they may see it as a better option than letting the Social Democrats back into power.

They will do anything they can to compromise, but some things are off limit. The Sweden Democrats is the biggest party of the 4 right-wing parties, but the leader, Jimmie Åkesson, will never become PM. Instead, The Moderates' Ulf Kristersson will be PM even though his party for 1% fewer votes than SD. This is mainly because the 3 other right-wing parties refuses to let Jimmie Åkesson be PM. The Liberals say they can work together with SD on a few things, but will not sit in a government with them.

Either way, it's mostly the parliament making the most decisions and the government doing what the parliament has decided. When it's this very close between the left/center/right blocks, it's very difficult to get many of your suggestions to pass in the parliament. There are 349 people voting in the parliament when everyone's there. 176 from the right-wing side, 173 from the left-center side. If the Liberals with their ~17 seats votes no to a suggestion, it's suddenly 190 votes for no and the suggestion won't go through. This happens all the time nowadays since it's so tight between the blocks. And of course, no one forces you to vote the same way that your party has decided... It's enough for 2 people of the current 176 right-wingers to vote against.

It can be frustrating of course, since so many suggestions get blocked. It's nearly impossible to change things drastically in Swedish politics. It happened recently when Russia invaded Ukraine. Then many former strong no-sayers to NATO changed their minds, including the Social Democrats.
 
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