Ideas from Long Ago

Rove

Telly Talk Warrior
I guess I'm in the minority that believes that Bobby shouldn't have returned at all, as I said in another post by season 8 Dallas was starting to become a bit dry and stale and it needed a massive jolt of electricity
I'm with you on Patrick not returning to Dallas. By the time "Swan Song" had aired I believe it was time for the ultimate showdown between the Ewing and Barnes family. Pam had already threatened JR for his involvement in sending her around the Caribbean looking for Mark. That confrontation between the two in JR's office is priceless. "And then I'm going to watch you hurt," is Pam's threat to JR. And his facial expression was telling. He had gone too far this time.
 

Rove

Telly Talk Warrior
Pam marries Wendell
Oh hell no! No way would I have liked to see Pam with that slithering snake Jeremy. After Bobby's death I wanted a strong, independent Pam. Often I would roll my eyes how the writers could not have the likes of Sue Ellen and Pam not survive without a man in their world. I recall when Mark showed up at Pam's home after Bobby's death. Really? So soon? I nearly threw my cornflakes at the tele. Not that I had any issues with Mark since I'm one of the few who liked the character but having him return when Bobby wasn't even cold just struck me as though the writers believed they had to keep Pam interesting by having Mark show up.
 

stevew

Telly Talk Star
I'm with you on Patrick not returning to Dallas. By the time "Swan Song" had aired I believe it was time for the ultimate showdown between the Ewing and Barnes family. Pam had already threatened JR for his involvement in sending her around the Caribbean looking for Mark. That confrontation between the two in JR's office is priceless. "And then I'm going to watch you hurt," is Pam's threat to JR. And his facial expression was telling. He had gone too far this time.

Agreed. And with Bobby dead all bets would be off. Would have been fun. But I still wanted JR to win by the end of season 9 - and then leave us with Pam's next move.
 

stevew

Telly Talk Star
Oh hell no! No way would I have liked to see Pam with that slithering snake Jeremy. After Bobby's death I wanted a strong, independent Pam. Often I would roll my eyes how the writers could not have the likes of Sue Ellen and Pam not survive without a man in their world. I recall when Mark showed up at Pam's home after Bobby's death. Really? So soon? I nearly threw my cornflakes at the tele. Not that I had any issues with Mark since I'm one of the few who liked the character but having him return when Bobby wasn't even cold just struck me as though the writers believed they had to keep Pam interesting by having Mark show up.

I didn't mean a loving marriage. By this point I'd have settled into JR being the loving husband to Sue Ellen - going through all it would take to get there. No Pam wouldn't need a man, I meant more as in business partner / political partner marriage, like an Alexis and Cecil Colby. Maybe even give her some toy boys on the side, some one to teach her business, someone to hate JR with, someone with billions of dollars once JR takes everything from her and Cliff.
 

ArchieLucasCarringtonEwing1989

Telly Talk TV Fanatic
Pam in seasons 5 thru 8 was getting much stronger, she didn't need Bobby to be her knight in shining armour anymore, the Battle for Ewing Oil proved that Pam wasn't afraid to speak her mind not only to JR (something she was never afraid of in the first place in a way) but also to her beloved Bobby, then after the stunt JR pulled with Mark Graison to send Pam out of her mind with desperation and out of Bobby's life, Pam snapped toward JR and was willing to hurt Bobby and Miss Ellie in taking JR on with Cliff and Jamie.

Season 9 comes along and Pam is now in even footing with JR and whether she likes it or not, has to now step into Bobby's shoes, season 9 was the year Dallas morphed into Dynasty aside from that, it was the last decent season and had reached a new place, then Autumn 1986 (or Spring 1985, post dream season Dallas is never clear on what year it is actually set in, just because an episode is aired in 1989 it could really well be set in 1986 thanks to the dream!) she wakes up and the show undoes to Pam years of character development and she's no longer Pamela Barnes Ewing but is now in a position that even way back in the winter of
1977-78 Pam never occupied, she has finally become Mrs Bobby Ewing and the rest is history.
 

stevew

Telly Talk Star
Pam in seasons 5 thru 8 was getting much stronger, she didn't need Bobby to be her knight in shining armour anymore, the Battle for Ewing Oil proved that Pam wasn't afraid to speak her mind not only to JR (something she was never afraid of in the first place in a way) but also to her beloved Bobby, then after the stunt JR pulled with Mark Graison to send Pam out of her mind with desperation and out of Bobby's life, Pam snapped toward JR and was willing to hurt Bobby and Miss Ellie in taking JR on with Cliff and Jamie.

Season 9 comes along and Pam is now in even footing with JR and whether she likes it or not, has to now step into Bobby's shoes, season 9 was the year Dallas morphed into Dynasty aside from that, it was the last decent season and had reached a new place, then Autumn 1986 (or Spring 1985, post dream season Dallas is never clear on what year it is actually set in, just because an episode is aired in 1989 it could really well be set in 1986 thanks to the dream!) she wakes up and the show undoes to Pam years of character development and she's no longer Pamela Barnes Ewing but is now in a position that even way back in the winter of
1977-78 Pam never occupied, she has finally become Mrs Bobby Ewing and the rest is history.

Very good points. I wasn't all that found of season 8 - the Donna Reed thing threw me. I might be mixing stuff up. It's been years. As for season 9 - I remember it not being much better to me but yeah I recall Pam being pretty strong. They should have brought back Mark - I agree with the last post on that. And she shouldn't have worked with Cliffevshe should have been the lead. She should have gone all out to destroy JR to the point even Ray turns on her. Then JR lowers the boom and she looses all her money and even Christopher to JR. JR is in top again. And then Pam regroups and is ready for round two. Now that would have been exciting as hell.

Excellent description btw. I never watched much of dynasty but I can see it Alexis v. Blake similar to JR v. Pam. Very interesting indeed.
 

Rove

Telly Talk Warrior
she didn't need Bobby to be her knight in shining armour anymore
Correct. By the time "Swan Song" had screened Patrick had openly informed the producers he had had enough. Even Patrick is quoted as saying he only had to read part of the script because he knew what Bobby would say next. He was obviously bored with the character and wanted to see what was on the other side of the fence. That's understandable since most actors like to be challenged.

Pam in seasons 5 thru 8 was getting much stronger

Yes she was. And who do we have to blame for this? JR and Cliff. JR from that opening episode "Diggers Daughter" was determined to get rid of that "Barnes woman" at any cost. JR thought he could scare Pam off however it had the opposite effect, making her stronger as she battled with the Ewing family and their constant attacks against Cliff. He however was no innocent party in this.

As the seasons progressed and the characters became more organic the natural flow of the story was leading into the scenario of JR vs. Pam. Patrick's announcement to the producers he was not renewing his contract was just the shot in the arm Dallas needed to propel it into phase 2.

I'm not sure how much notice Victoria gave to the producers of her intentions of leaving before her last appearance in "Fall of the House of Ewing" in May, 1987. Despite cash falling from the heavens at Victoria's feet (potentially making her the highest paid actress on American television) it was not enough to retain her services.

Watching my beloved program lurching from one disaster to another, beginning with the Donna Reed debacle, the addition of Jenilee Harrison, a whole season castrated because a previous producer (Leonard Katzman) thought it was crap, really tested my patience and many others.

she wakes up and the show undoes to Pam years of character development and she's no longer Pamela Barnes Ewing but is now in a position that even way back in the winter of
1977-78 Pam never occupied

Again your remarks on this are spot on. Pam and other characters body clocks had all been re-set. I'd imagine most viewers where interested how the producers and writers were going to get Bobby back. Come September, 1987 when "After The Fall/Ewing Rise" episode aired Leonard Katzman (now promoted to Executive Producer) may as well had us all stand in a cold shower after that episode went to air.

Instead of it having the desired effect and resurrecting Dallas to its rightful place, their stroke of genius was a stroke of madness.
 

stevew

Telly Talk Star
Correct. By the time "Swan Song" had screened Patrick had openly informed the producers he had had enough. Even Patrick is quoted as saying he only had to read part of the script because he knew what Bobby would say next. He was obviously bored with the character and wanted to see what was on the other side of the fence. That's understandable since most actors like to be challenged.



Yes she was. And who do we have to blame for this? JR and Cliff. JR from that opening episode "Diggers Daughter" was determined to get rid of that "Barnes woman" at any cost. JR thought he could scare Pam off however it had the opposite effect, making her stronger as she battled with the Ewing family and their constant attacks against Cliff. He however was no innocent party in this.

As the seasons progressed and the characters became more organic the natural flow of the story was leading into the scenario of JR vs. Pam. Patrick's announcement to the producers he was not renewing his contract was just the shot in the arm Dallas needed to propel it into phase 2.

I'm not sure how much notice Victoria gave to the producers of her intentions of leaving before her last appearance in "Fall of the House of Ewing" in May, 1987. Despite cash falling from the heavens at Victoria's feet (potentially making her the highest paid actress on American television) it was not enough to retain her services.

Watching my beloved program lurching from one disaster to another, beginning with the Donna Reed debacle, the addition of Jenilee Harrison, a whole season castrated because a previous producer (Leonard Katzman) thought it was crap, really tested my patience and many others.



Again your remarks on this are spot on. Pam and other characters body clocks had all been re-set. I'd imagine most viewers where interested how the producers and writers were going to get Bobby back. Come September, 1987 when "After The Fall/Ewing Rise" episode aired Leonard Katzman (now promoted to Executive Producer) may as well had us all stand in a cold shower after that episode went to air.

Instead of it having the desired effect and resurrecting Dallas to its rightful place, their stroke of genius was a stroke of madness.

So Katzman was the Cidre of his day?
 

Rove

Telly Talk Warrior
So Katzman was the Cidre of his day?
I wouldn't go that far. There is no denying there were tensions behind the scenes between Philip Capice and Leonard Katzman, that's been noted in other forums both here and other websites. But what ever those differences were it brought out the best during seasons 1 to 8. After the debacle of the dream season, Phil is let go and Leonard returns as Executive Producer for seasons 10 to 14 with Larry Hagman sharing the role from season 12 to 14. If ever two people knew the backbone of Dallas and what made it tick was those two, yet clearly many of us thought seasons 11 to 14 were woeful.

All these years later there is a little bit of "poetic justice" in the failing years of Dallas. Larry (and others) believed he was the star of the show. Problem was other characters, so important to the storytelling and relevance to the character of JR became expendable due to that ego.
 

stevew

Telly Talk Star
I wouldn't go that far. There is no denying there were tensions behind the scenes between Philip Capice and Leonard Katzman, that's been noted in other forums both here and other websites. But what ever those differences were it brought out the best during seasons 1 to 8. After the debacle of the dream season, Phil is let go and Leonard returns as Executive Producer for seasons 10 to 14 with Larry Hagman sharing the role from season 12 to 14. If ever two people knew the backbone of Dallas and what made it tick was those two, yet clearly many of us thought seasons 11 to 14 were woeful.

All these years later there is a little bit of "poetic justice" in the failing years of Dallas. Larry (and others) believed he was the star of the show. Problem was other characters, so important to the storytelling and relevance to the character of JR became expendable due to that ego.

Interesting. Larry was perfect for the role but with rare exception an actor is generally not a writer in any stretch of the term. Yes if JR had died instead of Bobby Dallas would have ended for all intense purposes but a character like Pam could certainly have spun off to her own show. So it sounds like Larry himself would not have retired to the Jock role in the story and allowed a younger protagonist to fill his shoes. In a way I saw that as a problem with Dallas TNT. While it was great to see the three original stars their roles were way too big for a continuation. I think Cidre mixed up the roles of John Ross and Christopher - the character and actors would have been better suited if switched, and also the whole who cares about continuation stuff that the original suffered from didn't help. But I guess I'd also say a third leg in this perfect storm would be that JR, Sue Ellen and Bobby needed to take a back seat and maybe they wouldn't? Idk. Very interesting to learn these background stories.
 

Spooky Owl!

Telly Talk Supreme
My list for DALLAS rewrites:

*An explanation for the new ranch house following the 1978 miniseries ("twister got us!")

*Not much between 1978 to 1985 -- except no Miss Ellie recasts (either make Reed Jenna's aunt while BBG is on layaway in a hospice -- or may that mental institution Cidre liked so much -- or just give BBG her reduced work hours and be done with it)

*During the dream season don't let the plots keep circling to no avail, no matter WHAT they are. And don't have Pam sell Christopher's portion of Ewing Oil because that stops the entire series' premise right there.

*If Bobby must be revived, you can only use the Federal Witness Protection explanation -- yes, it's imperfect, but you can cleverly do it in a single episode. And Mama was the only family member that knew (turns out Angelica Nero was a high-end assassin hired anonymously by Katherine Wentworth before she died to knock off Bobby and the other Ewings, the elaborate Martinique scam done to get JR and family out of the country before killing them so Nero could make her quick escape --- that would give the Marinos Shipping crap a little more reason to exist retroactively). JR discusses suing his Mama for fraud in the execution of Bobby's now-invalidated will, but Harve Smithfield convinces JR that with the CIA and the IRS having cooperated with the hiding of Bobby, who'd flatlines and then was revived, the chances of JR winning the fraud suit (without destroying the company and the family) is unlikely and he should just settle on rebuying up the remaining pieces of Ewing Oil. This is also useful when Wes Parmalee claims to be Jock because, as Harve explains, there is now a precedent of Ewings fraudlently executing wills of undead family members...

*After Pam disappears, Cliff is the one who realizes something's wrong, suspicious, with the story of her "leave me alone" exit but Bobby won't listen. And JR discovers the tanker Pam crashed into belongs to Ewing Oil because JR was doing illegal oil business in the badlands he was forbidden to do after Jeremy and Mrs Scottfiled sicked the government on them; JR runs around all year trying to keep anybody from finding out, especially Bobby, and once Bobby DOES find out then HE has to run around trying to keep anybody from finding out lest the family business be destroyed once and for all. All of which is classic DALLAS irony. Give us a wee bit less screentime for the Jack Scalia mafia plotline, and when JR kills him at season's end, I'd like to see Sue Ellen stab him with a gardening spade and turn the knife in JR's gut while she drools in sadistic glee. Freeze frame. Fade to black. (Who needs another shooting).

*Much of the problem of the closing years is tone as opposed to storyline. Everything gets too campy and out of pace. Have the family hold Sue Ellen's actions against her, beyond the brief speech she got from Bobby and Ellie. If Halleyville and the chain gang have to happen, then literally make them like DELIVERANCE and COOL HAND LUKE, not a wonky satire of those scenarios. During this last season for Sue Ellen, DALLAS seemed to be trying to reclaim its western roots, so let the show FEEL like it; film in exotic national parks or something while JR is on the lam or whatever instead of Moscow. The range war plot was a good idea, but make Ellie reluctant to call in the authorities, much to the frustration of Clayton; Ellie's motives are mysterious and seem to be tied to what Wes Parmalee whispered to her two years earlier just before he took off and disappeared. I accept Sue Ellen's movie scenario, but do it more seriously, her explanation for pulling the picture before release making a bit more sense (and once JR drives off Cally, the movie is indeed released in Season 13 (per DVD count) causing more scandal on top of everything else).

*I don't mind JR's deterioration, as long as the show around him doesn't do the same thing. I don't mind JR tired and burned out as long as it's not played too much for laughs. DALLAS needs to get dustier and darker in its closing seasons, more organic -- not less, which is what they did instead; the show needed to be steeped in its own mythology and legacy by this point, not deconstructing it with a wink and a fart. Wendell's replacement with Carter McKay was never convincing, including Wendell's preposterous arrest (as if the Ewings, with their weakened company by this point, could take down Wendell so easily). As the tanker oil spill is occurring and Cliff is at Ewing Oil, have JR and Bobby actually discuss how improbable their easy takedown of Jeremy several months ago was, their discovering not all may have been as it appeared (Wendell had a reason to "allow" himself to appear to be removed from his position). Let the serial murder of Clayton's business associates be the Dallas cartel we know instead -- those men Lady Jessica had been sleeping with in the late-'40s she thinks may have fathered Dusty (I think JfL though of this) and who may be been being bilked for cash by Jessie on the sly for decades; and have the murders done like a horror movie, and not as a jokey shlocky thing. (David Jacobs said years ago that if there were a DALLAS big screen movie, he'd like to see Miss Ellie with her own TV chat show -- I'd love this for the oilspill/serial-murder season: Miss Ellie appears twice on Roy Ralston's local show and wins over the audience such that she's offered the show now that Ralston is going national; she agrees to the deal, with JR's initial encouragement, until she starts making too many liberal statement, especially of an environmental nature, leaving the oil community up in arms and JR trying to sabotage her any way he can). Lucy would take over running the Oil Baron's Club, and I want to see the southfork interiors get darker and more dramatic, kind of western-gothic.
After the Margaret Michaels/fake Pam story is revealed to not be Pam at all, Bobby's suspicions that the culprit was JR turn out to be unfounded -- somebody else was behind it and perhaps behind Pam's disappearance to begin with (did Wendell have some reason to pull this off, acting as puppetmaster from a distance?) Even JR is disturbed by it. Once Ellie's makeup is spiked with cocaine by her chauffeur (in an attempt to please JR) and she has an on air seizure and collapses as a result, she winds up in the hospital and, convinced she's going to die, whispers in Clayton's ear that Digger Barnes is JR's biological daddy (I think JfL though that up, too). She lives, a drunken Clayton spills the beans, and JR goes nuts in Season 14 (per DVD count) at the prospect that he might be a dreaded blood Barnes. Meanwhile, frustrated by Cliff's neglect, Afton gradually turns to a lonely Bobby (although the wife killed in Paris was Tracey, which Carter blames the Ewings for, and April was just a benign stalker who was in the line of fire) which predictably infuriates Cliff once he learns of it. And instead of having Ewing Oil bought with the pocketchange of every bimbo who drives thru Texas, Sue Ellen would return in the last two or three episodes and, flushed with fresh cash from her various business activities, saves the company on the verge of collapse and default -- which delights JR until she announces she's naming Cliff Barnes as CEO.

*Bobby, JR and Cliff uncover increasing evidence that Pam was either taken by the trolls at Weststar and/or she may have died --- from neurofibromatosis, meaning she was a blood Barnes after all. And maybe JR's sister! (Although a DNA test can restore JR's Ewinghood by year's end, if we prefer). I envision a show-ending Southfork barbecue, with Wendell and McKay now wanted by the feds, crashing a private plane into or near the pool in McKay's red-faced last-ditch effort to "get JR!" Both Weststar executives are killed. Later that evening, JR finds Sue Ellen nursing a cup of coffee in front of a barely illuminated Southfork. He sheepishly tells her how impressed he is by all her manueverings which saved Ewing Oil and then asks if she's coming inside. She looks up and aloofly responds, "maybe later"; JR hesitates, turns to walk back to the house, and the camera pulls back. Freeze frame. End of series. And a near-exact reverse-replay of the final scene from the first Barbecue episode 13 years before.
 

stevew

Telly Talk Star
My list for DALLAS rewrites:

*An explanation for the new ranch house following the 1978 miniseries ("twister got us!")

*Not much between 1978 to 1985 -- except no Miss Ellie recasts (either make Reed Jenna's aunt while BBG is on layaway in a hospice -- or may that mental institution Cidre liked so much -- or just give BBG her reduced work hours and be done with it)

*During the dream season don't let the plots keep circling to no avail, no matter WHAT they are. And don't have Pam sell Christopher's portion of Ewing Oil because that stops the entire series' premise right there.

*If Bobby must be revived, you can only use the Federal Witness Protection explanation -- yes, it's imperfect, but you can cleverly do it in a single episode. And Mama was the only family member that knew (turns out Angelica Nero was a high-end assassin hired anonymously by Katherine Wentworth before she died to knock off Bobby and the other Ewings, the elaborate Martinique scam done to get JR and family out of the country before killing them so Nero could make her quick escape --- that would give the Marinos Shipping crap a little more reason to exist retroactively). JR discusses suing his Mama for fraud in the execution of Bobby's now-invalidated will, but Harve Smithfield convinces JR that with the CIA and the IRS having cooperated with the hiding of Bobby, who'd flatlines and then was revived, the chances of JR winning the fraud suit (without destroying the company and the family) is unlikely and he should just settle on rebuying up the remaining pieces of Ewing Oil. This is also useful when Wes Parmalee claims to be Jock because, as Harve explains, there is now a precedent of Ewings fraudlently executing wills of undead family members...

*After Pam disappears, Cliff is the one who realizes something's wrong, suspicious, with the story of her "leave me alone" exit but Bobby won't listen. And JR discovers the tanker Pam crashed into belongs to Ewing Oil because JR was doing illegal oil business in the badlands he was forbidden to do after Jeremy and Mrs Scottfiled sicked the government on them; JR runs around all year trying to keep anybody from finding out, especially Bobby, and once Bobby DOES find out then HE has to run around trying to keep anybody from finding out lest the family business be destroyed once and for all. All of which is classic DALLAS irony. Give us a wee bit less screentime for the Jack Scalia mafia plotline, and when JR kills him at season's end, I'd like to see Sue Ellen stab him with a gardening spade and turn the knife in JR's gut while she drools in sadistic glee. Freeze frame. Fade to black. (Who needs another shooting).

*Much of the problem of the closing years is tone as opposed to storyline. Everything gets too campy and out of pace. Have the family hold Sue Ellen's actions against her, beyond the brief speech she got from Bobby and Ellie. If Halleyville and the chain gang have to happen, then literally make them like DELIVERANCE and COOL HAND LUKE, not a wonky satire of those scenarios. During this last season for Sue Ellen, DALLAS seemed to be trying to reclaim its western roots, so let the show FEEL like it; film in exotic national parks or something while JR is on the lam or whatever instead of Moscow. The range war plot was a good idea, but make Ellie reluctant to call in the authorities, much to the frustration of Clayton; Ellie's motives are mysterious and seem to be tied to what Wes Parmalee whispered to her two years earlier just before he took off and disappeared. I accept Sue Ellen's movie scenario, but do it more seriously, her explanation for pulling the picture before release making a bit more sense (and once JR drives off Cally, the movie is indeed released in Season 13 (per DVD count) causing more scandal on top of everything else).

*I don't mind JR's deterioration, as long as the show around him doesn't do the same thing. I don't mind JR tired and burned out as long as it's not played too much for laughs. DALLAS needs to get dustier and darker in its closing seasons, more organic -- not less, which is what they did instead; the show needed to be steeped in its own mythology and legacy by this point, not deconstructing it with a wink and a fart. Wendell's replacement with Carter McKay was never convincing, including Wendell's preposterous arrest (as if the Ewings, with their weakened company by this point, could take down Wendell so easily). As the tanker oil spill is occurring and Cliff is at Ewing Oil, have JR and Bobby actually discuss how improbable their easy takedown of Jeremy several months ago was, their discovering not all may have been as it appeared (Wendell had a reason to "allow" himself to appear to be removed from his position). Let the serial murder of Clayton's business associates be the Dallas cartel we know instead -- those men Lady Jessica had been sleeping with in the late-'40s she thinks may have fathered Dusty (I think JfL though of this) and who may be been being bilked for cash by Jessie on the sly for decades; and have the murders done like a horror movie, and not as a jokey shlocky thing. (David Jacobs said years ago that if there were a DALLAS big screen movie, he'd like to see Miss Ellie with her own TV chat show -- I'd love this for the oilspill/serial-murder season: Miss Ellie appears twice on Roy Ralston's local show and wins over the audience such that she's offered the show now that Ralston is going national; she agrees to the deal, with JR's initial encouragement, until she starts making too many liberal statement, especially of an environmental nature, leaving the oil community up in arms and JR trying to sabotage her any way he can). Lucy would take over running the Oil Baron's Club, and I want to see the southfork interiors get darker and more dramatic, kind of western-gothic.
After the Margaret Michaels/fake Pam story is revealed to not be Pam at all, Bobby's suspicions that the culprit was JR turn out to be unfounded -- somebody else was behind it and perhaps behind Pam's disappearance to begin with (did Wendell have some reason to pull this off, acting as puppetmaster from a distance?) Even JR is disturbed by it. Once Ellie's makeup is spiked with cocaine by her chauffeur (in an attempt to please JR) and she has an on air seizure and collapses as a result, she winds up in the hospital and, convinced she's going to die, whispers in Clayton's ear that Digger Barnes is JR's biological daddy (I think JfL though that up, too). She lives, a drunken Clayton spills the beans, and JR goes nuts in Season 14 (per DVD count) at the prospect that he might be a dreaded blood Barnes. Meanwhile, frustrated by Cliff's neglect, Afton gradually turns to a lonely Bobby (although the wife killed in Paris was Tracey, which Carter blames the Ewings for, and April was just a benign stalker who was in the line of fire) which predictably infuriates Cliff once he learns of it. And instead of having Ewing Oil bought with the pocketchange of every bimbo who drives thru Texas, Sue Ellen would return in the last two or three episodes and, flushed with fresh cash from her various business activities, saves the company on the verge of collapse and default -- which delights JR until she announces she's naming Cliff Barnes as CEO.

*Bobby, JR and Cliff uncover increasing evidence that Pam was either taken by the trolls at Weststar and/or she may have died --- from neurofibromatosis, meaning she was a blood Barnes after all. And maybe JR's sister! (Although a DNA test can restore JR's Ewinghood by year's end, if we prefer). I envision a show-ending Southfork barbecue, with Wendell and McKay now wanted by the feds, crashing a private plane into or near the pool in McKay's red-faced last-ditch effort to "get JR!" Both Weststar executives are killed. Later that evening, JR finds Sue Ellen nursing a cup of coffee in front of a barely illuminated Southfork. He sheepishly tells her how impressed he is by all her manueverings which saved Ewing Oil and then asks if she's coming inside. She looks up and aloofly responds, "maybe later"; JR hesitates, turns to walk back to the house, and the camera pulls back. Freeze frame. End of series. And a near-exact reverse-replay of the final scene from the first Barbecue episode 13 years before.

Cool ideas. Certainly would have been an alternative Dallas. Makes one think doesn't it.
 

Rove

Telly Talk Warrior
whispers in Clayton's ear that Digger Barnes is JR's biological daddy
Interesting that you raise that scenario since JR said it himself when introducing Dallas: The Early Years. As he reclines in his chair at Ewing Oil speaking with an unknown person and recalling conversations with Jock, JR says, "Once he even said, you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Digger Barnes."

I've always been curious about that opening monologue from JR. What was Jock implying here?

DALLAS needs to get dustier and darker in its closing seasons, more organic -- not less, which is what they did instead; the show needed to be steeped in its own mythology and legacy by this point

Your absolutely correct. I believe if the producers/writers had stood by their decision to keep Bobby dead we may have witnessed a JR not seen before. After his brothers death I wanted to see the return of a darker JR, ruthless, cruel even. As if loosing Bobby wasn't enough he then had to contend with that "Barnes woman" positioning herself in Ewing Oil.

As the season progresses JR feels overwhelmed (even he doesn't understand his own vindictiveness) and moves out of Southfork. He believes his remaining family and few business associates have deserted him. He becomes obsessed with owning Ewing Oil. As JR becomes more devious and destructive Miss Ellie calls JR to Southfork. We're left with the season ending cliffhanger with just Miss Ellie and JR appearing in the final episode at Southfork. The tension mounts as we draw close to the end. A screaming match ensures between mother and son until Miss Ellie blurts out, "Jock is not your father!" Fade to black, end scene.

Now imagine the following season after this after JR learns that NEWS.
 

ArchieLucasCarringtonEwing1989

Telly Talk TV Fanatic
My planned season 10 would have Pam and JR go to war for a third of the season, over Mark Graisons mysterious death in the previous season finale, in the meantime JR would care for an injured Sue Ellen, strengthening their marriage bond even more though at first Sue Ellen would want to leave JR as she doesn't want to be a burden, but JR makes it clear that he's going to stand by her, Miss Ellie would be impressed with this and she would give Southfork to JR.

Mark's death would have sinister overtones that would arc over the season this would be incorporated with Dallas last decent storyline: The BD Calhoun story, an old enemy from the Southworth side of the family would target the Ewings, this is what would unite the Ewings and the Barnes families, Jeremy Wendell would be working with Southworth, Ben Stivers would be revealed as working with Wendell and Southworth to get Ewing oil, he would be made to look like Jock through plastic surgery.
 
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