It's Official: Donald Trump Has Been Elected The 47th President Of The United States

[Snarky Oracle!]

I notice that you say unlikely rather than impossible. The degree of acquiescence to his outrages has been astounding. What if he just says he's staying? At this point who is there to say no?

We were saying that in his first term -- that he wouldn't leave. And January 6th (the details of which are far more muddy than the official version, as is usually the case) proved our fears that he wouldn't go quietly. (He did go when he was supposed to, but left behind a big steaming turd just because he could, and he thought it would be fun).

But he's almost 80, and four years is a brief -- yet lengthy -- time when you're in your eighties. Things change, especially physically.

And, believe it or not, I don't think Trump wants to run again. And even MAGA is likely to be less supportive of him once it becomes obvious even to them that he's Just Another Rich Men's President pretending not to be.

His scam worked before. But the next few years are going to be tough, and End of Empire is nigh.

We're not going back, not to how we think things once were. Nothing is going to be fixed by either party. And Trump will either expire in office or he'll slip away with a surprising quiet when his term is up. If anything, the events of the day will probably upstage his exit (as long as that exit isn't violent, and it probably won't be).

 

[KayLloyd]

I don't think he intends to leave after the next election. Steve Bannon is all over TV saying Trump is going to find a way to run and the Constitution be damned. Scared he is making all these changes because he thinks it's his permanent home.

Relax, Trump is going to leave when his term is up and there will be a peaceful transfer of power on January 20, 2029 at 12:00 p.m., just as there always has been when our new president gets elected. What you should be scared of is the alarming installation of Muslim mayors all over the UK and the attempt to install Mamdami in NYC because if NYC falls, there will be a domino effect in the US as well. It's a coordinated world domination plan by radical Muslims without firing a shot, and THAT'S what we all need to be scared of.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Relax, Trump is going to leave when his term is up and there will be a peaceful transfer of power on January 20, 2029 at 12:00 p.m., just as there always has been when our new president gets elected. What you should be scared of is the alarming installation of Muslim mayors all over the UK and the attempt to install Mamdami in NYC because if NYC falls, there will be a domino effect the US as well. It's a coordinated world domination plan by radical Muslims without firing a shot, and THAT'S what we all need to be scared of.

Well, there is definitely a psy-op afoot to bring down western society. As pro-Palestine as I am, and appalled at the genocide in Gaza (both parties in American are supporting), there has been an obvious deep state plot for a while to obliterate the culture.

But it's not just the Democrats. They install Marxist mayors -- often female, often Muslim, often lesbians -- who do their job of destroying their cities. And Republicans get outraged and promise to save things through their own "fascistic" efforts.

But it's like Woke versus Anti-Woke -- they're flip sides of the same coin. The intent is to keep the underclasses fighting with each other, to deflect attention away from the elites and what they're doing with all the money.

They're turning us into Brazil deliberately: a huge population in a huge country, with tons of wealth -- but that wealth is pushed into the hands of a fraction of 1% of the population, and everyone else lives in abject poverty.

Both parties are doing it, rhetoric notwithstanding. And the chaos just speeds the process, benefitting those elites, distracting the masses whose increasing desperation is grist for the mill.

No one is going to save us. America is over. We're cooked. Nothing is going to stop it.

And who's in the White House -- with or without a ballroom -- isn't going to make any difference.

 

[KayLloyd]

Well, there is definitely a psy-op afoot to bring down western society. As pro-Palestine as I am, and appalled at the genocide in Gaza (both parties in American are supporting), there has been an obvious deep state plot for a while to obliterate the culture.

But it's not just the Democrats. They install Marxist mayors -- often female, often Muslim, often lesbians -- who do their job of destroying their cities. And Republicans get outraged and promise to save things through their own "fascistic" efforts.

But it's like Woke versus Anti-Woke -- they're flip sides of the same coin. The intent is to keep the underclasses fighting with each other, to deflect attention away from the elites and what they're doing with all the money.

They're turning us into Brazil deliberately: a huge population in a huge country, with tons of wealth -- but that wealth is pushed into the hands of a fraction of 1% of the population, and everyone else lives in abject poverty.

Both parties are doing it, rhetoric notwithstanding. And the chaos just speeds the process, benefitting those elites, distracting the masses whose increasing desperation is grist for the mill.

No one is going to save us. America is over. We're cooked. Nothing is going to stop it.

And who's in the White House -- with or without a ballroom -- isn't going to make any difference.

There is a religious war at the root of it, the radical Muslims are fanning the flames around the world and diverting attention from their agenda with political chaos and dangerous misplaced sympathy. Take a look at who was front and center behind Bernie and AOC at the Mamdami rally, it's very clear what they're up to..

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

There is a religious war at the root of it, the radical Muslims are fanning the flames around the world and diverting attention from their agenda with chaos and dangerous misplaced sympathy.

No. That's the establishment narrative. Radical Muslims don't actually have the power. Those who qualify as such are just the tools.

Our corporate overlords are running the show -- and one particular country overseas who shan't be named.

 

[KayLloyd]

No. That's the establishment narrative. Radical Muslims don't actually have the power. Those who qualify as such are just the tools.

Our corporate overlords are running the show -- and one particular country overseas who shan't be named.

Tell that to the residents of Minneapolis who are now forced to listen to Muslim calls to prayer 5 times a day.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Tell that to the residents of Minneapolis who are now forced to listen to Muslim calls to prayers 5 times a day.

What about it? The immigration influx is being run by those in power. Not the Muslims themselves.

I used to keep my distance from The Great Replacement Theory because it frankly sounded a little bit "racist."

Don Lemon was on, I think, CNN this year asserting that The Great Replacement Theory was indeed racist --- until old footage, from only two years ago, popped up of Don Lemon conceding that the Theory was true and that it was a good thing.

So, sometimes, rightwing conspiracy theories have a basis to them. (Same with left wing conspiracy theories).

But the chaos isn't originating with Muslims. They're the tools. Look to the corporations, and the country currently involved in 7 wars.

 

[KayLloyd]

What about it? The immigration influx is being run by those in power. Not the Muslims themselves.

I used to keep my distance from The Great Replacement Theory because it frankly sounded a little bit "racist."

Don Lemon was on, I think, CNN this year asserting that The Great Replacement Theory was indeed racist --- until old footage, from only two years ago, popped up of Don Lemon conceding that the Theory was true and that it was a good thing.

So, sometimes, rightwing conspiracy theories have a basis to them. (Same with left wing conspiracy theories).

But the chaos isn't originating with Muslims. They're the tools. Look to the corporations, and the country currently involved in 7 wars.

The US is not a Muslim country, and the accommodations demanded by Muslim immigrants are outrageous, they have no desire to assimilate. If Christian and Jewish immigrants in a Muslim country demanded that their church bell ringing and shofar blowing be broadcast over loud speakers 5 times a day, they would be executed and you know it. Burying your head in the racist card sand won't protect you when sharia law takes over your city or the next terrorist attack happens.

 

[Jimmy Todd]

So if Don Lemon, and anyone else, supports a hypothetical Great Replacement Theory, does that make him racist?

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

The US is not a Muslim country, and the accommodations demanded by Muslim immigrants are outrageous, they have no desire to assimilate. If Christian and Jewish immigrants in a Muslim country demanded that their church bell ringing and shofar blowing be broadcast over loud speakers 5 times a day, they would be executed and you know it.

That still doesn't tell you who's guiding it.

Burying your head in the racist card sand won't protect you when sharia law takes over your city or the next terrorist attack happens.

Oh, I agree. Which is evident if you actually read my post you quoted.

I was saying that it "sounded racist" when I first heard it, but eventually determined there was a basis for it, as both sides were acknowledging its existence whenever they were in the right mood.

So if Don Lemon, and anyone else, supports a hypothetical Great Replacement Theory, does that make him racist?

No, I pointed out that Lemon asserted that it was "racist," and then a clip surfaced from two years earlier where he was acknowledging the theory and saying that it was a good thing.

His hypocrisy was the point. And that some of the Left have admitted to The Great Replacement Theory even when they've accused others of being racist for promoting the same theory.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Well, there is definitely a psy-op afoot to bring down western society. As pro-Palestine as I am, and appalled at the genocide in Gaza (both parties in American are supporting), there has been an obvious deep state plot for a while to obliterate the culture.

But it's not just the Democrats. They install Marxist mayors -- often female, often Muslim, often lesbians -- who do their job of destroying their cities. And Republicans get outraged and promise to save things through their own "fascistic" efforts.

But it's like Woke versus Anti-Woke -- they're flip sides of the same coin. The intent is to keep the underclasses fighting with each other, to deflect attention away from the elites and what they're doing with all the money.

They're turning us into Brazil deliberately: a huge population in a huge country, with tons of wealth -- but that wealth is pushed into the hands of a fraction of 1% of the population, and everyone else lives in abject poverty.

Both parties are doing it, rhetoric notwithstanding. And the chaos just speeds the process, benefitting those elites, distracting the masses whose increasing desperation is grist for the mill.

No one is going to save us. America is over. We're cooked. Nothing is going to stop it.

And who's in the White House -- with or without a ballroom -- isn't going to make any difference.

Yes, and the timing couldn't be better. With the focus on illegal immigration, radical Muslims, trans people in sports, and the demolition of part of The White House, how many people are aware that the government has been shut down this entire month? And to make matters worse, people who receive SNAP benefits won't get any assistance next month unless the government reopens before November 1st. The establishment loves to sow chaos because it always benefits them and their cronies. Leave it to Trump to turn the East Wing into Mar-a-Lago in the midst of it all. End of empire indeed!

Trump recently came up with $40 billion for Argentina as well, so just add it to the list of countries that get American dollars invested in them ahead of the actual USA.

As for the woke, Marxist mayors, I have a feeling they're put in place to undermine legitimate social democratic policies like the Nordic countries have. That's why Republicans always cite Venezuela or the Soviet Union when discussing socialism instead of countries like Norway and Sweden.

 

[CeeCee72]

Tell that to the residents of Minneapolis who are now forced to listen to Muslim calls to prayer 5 times a day.

I am forced to listen to the local Baptist Church blasting their damn bells constantly. What's the difference?

Oh yeah. They're white Christians so that's okay I guess.

Relax, Trump is going to leave when his term is up and there will be a peaceful transfer of power on January 20, 2029 at 12:00 p.m., just as there always has been when our new president gets elected. What you should be scared of is the alarming installation of Muslim mayors all over the UK and the attempt to install Mamdami in NYC because if NYC falls, there will be a domino effect in the US as well. It's a coordinated world domination plan by radical Muslims without firing a shot, and THAT'S what we all need to be scared of.

Oh, yes. I remember how peaceful the transfer of power was in 2021. We're damn lucky the Vice President and the Speaker of the House weren't killed.

Those damn Muslims and their January 6 riots
...

Oh, wait.

NVM.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Oh, yes. I remember how peaceful the transfer of power was in 2021. We're damn lucky the Vice President and the Speaker of the House weren't killed.

Those damn Muslims and their January 6 riots
...

Oh, wait.

NVM.

Perhaps you would like to explain that to the people who lost loved ones on 9/11, not to mention numerous other terrorist attacks.

Wow

Unbelievable

I am forced to listen to the local Baptist Church blasting their damn bells constantly. What's the difference?

Oh yeah. They're white Christians so that's okay I guess.

You do realize that Christian religions, including Baptists, encompass other races.

There is a HUGE difference.

For starters, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence were written by Christians ( in large part)

who were influenced by the Judeo-Christian tradition, the Bible and the Magna Carta.

To equate the two is a logical fallacy, a specious comparison and just plain WRONG

Yes, and the timing couldn't be better. With the focus on illegal immigration, radical Muslims, trans people in sports, and the demolition of part of The White House, how many people are aware that the government has been shut down this entire month? And to make matters worse, people who receive SNAP benefits won't get any assistance next month unless the government reopens before November 1st. The establishment loves to sow chaos because it always benefits them and their cronies. Leave it to Trump to turn the East Wing into Mar-a-Lago in the midst of it all. End of empire indeed!

Trump recently came up with $40 billion for Argentina as well, so just add it to the list of countries that get American dollars invested in them ahead of the actual USA.

As for the woke, Marxist mayors, I have a feeling they're put in place to undermine legitimate social democratic policies like the Nordic countries have. That's why Republicans always cite Venezuela or the Soviet Union when discussing socialism instead of countries like Norway and Sweden.

I think people are quite aware - It is nonstop news

There is a reality that socialist countries have struggled, and countries like Norway and Sweden are not as socialist in character as others

I do want to acknowledge, however, that your civility and intelligence is appreciated.

Others should follow your example

 

[Billy Nolan]

The US is not a Muslim country, and the accommodations demanded by Muslim immigrants are outrageous, they have no desire to assimilate. If Christian and Jewish immigrants in a Muslim country demanded that their church bell ringing and shofar blowing be broadcast over loud speakers 5 times a day, they would be executed and you know it. Burying your head in the racist card sand won't protect you when sharia law takes over your city or the next terrorist attack happens.

You speak from my heart. We have similar problems here in Germany – but if I say anything critical about our left-wing, woke government and the problems with its policies, many people consider me a right-wing populist. I see that many things the US government does under Trump are viewed very critically here. Including his negotiations to free the hostages. Why can't we differentiate and acknowledge that he was right at times or did something good? It's not just black and white!

 

[KayLloyd]

I am forced to listen to the local Baptist Church blasting their damn bells constantly. What's the difference?

Oh yeah. They're white Christians so that's okay I guess.

Christian prayers and church bells aren't blasted over loud speakers 5 times a day, that's the difference. And newsflash, not all Christians are white, and neither are all Jews.

 

[CeeCee72]

Perhaps you would like to explain that to the people who lost loved ones on 9/11, not to mention numerous other terrorist attacks.

Wow

Unbelievable

Perhaps you would like to talk about all the murders and terrorist attacks committed by home grown Christians? Here's a hint. There weren't any Muslim people involved in the OKC bombing or the mass murder at the black Church in SC.

No one is defending Islamic terrorists. But all Muslims aren't terrorists and everyone in this country has the right to freedom of religion.

I also don't respond well when Trump loyalists look away from his misdeeds, lies, obvious cognitive decline, and dictator like actions by stirring up hatred and prejudice against brown people.

Last time it was "caravans" from Mexico. This time it's "Muslim infiltration."

Same racism, same denial, different year.

You do realize that Baptist religions encompass other races.

There is a HUGE difference.

For starters, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence were written by Christians,

who were influenced by the Judeo-Christian tradition, the Bible and the Magna Carta.

To equate the two is a logical fallacy, a specious comparison and just plain WRONG

You claim to be good at research (in other threads) yet don't seem to know many of our founding fathers were Agnostic and Diest.

Interesting.

They wrote that ALL Americans had freedom of religion - NOT just Christians.

That may be inconvenient for you, but it is a fact.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Perhaps you would like to talk about all the murders and terrorist attacks committed by home grown Christians? Here's a hint. There weren't any Muslim people involved in the OKC bombing or the mass murder at the black Church in SC.

No one is defending Islamic terrorists. But all Muslims aren't terrorists and everyone in this country has the right to freedom of religion.

I also don't respond well when Trump loyalists look away from his misdeeds, lies, obvious cognitive decline, and dictator like actions by stirring up hatred and prejudice against brown people.

Last time it was "caravans" from Mexico. This time it's "Muslim infiltration."

Same racism, same denial, different year.

I will talk about it at length. You are cherry picking.

9/11 was far more devastating than OKC

I could recite all kinds of atrocities by those whom you are defending but that will take all day.

And if you think white Christian or any Christian church for that matter, hasn't been targeted, you are wrong.
And again, Christian churches are multiracial,

And no one is bringing up immigration, as you are. That is a separate issue, for another thread.

What you are doing is citing false equivalencies, deflection,cherry picking, false generalizations and several other logical fallacies.

And of course, anyone who disagrees with you is a racist. Wow

 

[KayLloyd]

Oh, yes. I remember how peaceful the transfer of power was in 2021. We're damn lucky the Vice President and the Speaker of the House weren't killed.

Those damn Muslims and their January 6 riots
...

Oh, wait.

NVM.

Biden and Harris peacefully became President and VP on Inauguration Day 2021. Oh wait, now I remember, that was just was the beginning of the long 4 year nightmare for the country.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

You claim to be good at research (in other threads) yet don't seem to know many of our founding fathers were Agnostic and Diest.

Interesting.

They wrote that ALL Americans had freedom of religion - NOT just Christians.

That may be inconvenient for you, but it is a fact.

You didn't read the whole thread, then.

Nothing I said was a denial of the right to religious worship

I cited the Bible, the Judaic-Christian tradition, the Magna Carta as influences on the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence

Part of research is verification of assertions that are not widely known

You provided none

Frankly, you don't know the Facts

10 Most Influential Founding Fathers’ Religious Beliefs That Shaped America – America Rewind

americarewind.com

The Faith of the Founding Fathers

Were America’s Founders Christian? Dr. Gregg Frazer, Professor of History & Political Studies, explore the religious beliefs of the Founding Fathers, the concept of theistic rationalism, and the implications for understanding America’s origins.

www.masters.edu

35 Facts About Founding Fathers Religion

Ever wondered about the religious beliefs of America's Founding Fathers? These influential figures shaped the nation, but their spiritual views were as dive

facts.net

 

[CeeCee72]

Biden and Harris peacefully became President and VP on Inauguration Day 2021. Oh wait, now I remember, that was just was the beginning of the long 4 year nightmare for the county

To me, losing hundreds of thousands of people due to Trump's mismanagement of the pandemic was a nightmare.

Paying $25 dollars for 3 pounds of beef and $21 for a can of coffee is a nightmare.

The government shutdown is a nightmare.

And a two term president who is scapegoating brown people while he threatened to run for a third term (in direct violation of the Constitution) is a nightmare.

But to each their own, I guess.

I

You didn't read the whole thread, then.

Nothing I said was a denial of the right to religious worship

I cited the Bible, the Judaic-Christian tradition, the Magna Carta

Frankly, you don't know the Facts

10 Most Influential Founding Fathers’ Religious Beliefs That Shaped America – America Rewind

americarewind.com

The Faith of the Founding Fathers

Were America’s Founders Christian? Dr. Gregg Frazer, Professor of History & Political Studies, explore the religious beliefs of the Founding Fathers, the concept of theistic rationalism, and the implications for understanding America’s origins.

www.masters.edu

I know that the Founders SPECIFICALLY forbid a national religion and that they intended for all people to worship freely regardless of religion.