Lucille Ball: The First Lady of Comedy

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That's interesting You'd think that would have inspired them to try a dramatic series instead of trying to revive the slapstick sitcom format. It's hard to believe they couldn't foresee that she was too old for it.

Well, they couldn't have gotten Lucy on an '80s nighttime soap; she said at the time that the genre "ought to be selling mattresses" instead of soap.
 

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That's interesting You'd think that would have inspired them to try a dramatic series instead of trying to revive the slapstick sitcom format. It's hard to believe they couldn't foresee that she was too old for it.

Lucille's entire post-I LOVE LUCY career was alternating between trying to branch out and then retreating back to the familiarity of "Lucy". She tried different things, even drama, on TV, on the screen, and on stage, but felt the public only wanted "Lucy". And of course as she got older, she couldn't really do "Lucy" anymore either, putting her in a Catch-22.
 

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Well, they couldn't have gotten Lucy on an '80s nighttime soap; she said at the time that the genre "ought to be selling mattresses" instead of soap.
I love your alternate DYNASTY world where she plays Alexis's mother. Oh, how that would've been wonderful to see!

Lucille's entire post-I LOVE LUCY career was alternating between trying to branch out and then retreating back to the familiarity of "Lucy". She tried different things, even drama, on TV, on the screen, and on stage, but felt the public only wanted "Lucy". And of course as she got older, she couldn't really do "Lucy" anymore either, putting her in a Catch-22.
Yes, she did branch out some, but always fell back on the tried and true "Lucy" persona. It's a shame, too. She was a good actress (as we've noted before), but boxed herself into what sold.
 

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Am I remembering wrong? I thought you had a version of early Season 7 where Lucy comes in right as Blake is choking Alexis. Lucy is Alexis's mother.

Evidently, I am wrong.

Giving you the benefit of the doubt, someone else may have said it.

That said, Lucille Ball showing up just as Blake is strangling Alexis is funnier.

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I'm not sure who I'd pictured Lucy being -- although someone zany-but-brittle seems inevitable:

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Now I must find where someone mentioned what I was thinking about.

I love your alternate DYNASTY world where she plays Alexis's mother. Oh, how that would've been wonderful to see!
@Snarky Oracle! Our friend @stevew said this in this very thread back on February 7, 2018:

I loved Lucy as a comic. I even liked her in Mame singing and I’m not a musical fan. And in Stone Pillow she was excellent, imo. At her age going for drama as a comeback would have made more sense.

At the time I watched bits and pieces of Dynasty with my grandmother as she was in and out of the hospital. It never fully caught my attention, but in all fairness having watched the first two seasons much later on (I hadn’t seen any of them in their first run) I must say, I’d have been hooked if I’d started from the beginning. Anyway, when I heard Spelling was bringing Lucy back I pictured her in Dynasty. I said to my grandmother she should be Alexis’s American mother.

Picture her walking into the entry of the Carrington Mansion as Blake chokes Alexis and Ben holds back Krystal. She smells the flowers on the way in and says, “Way to kill two birds with one stone, Blake.” Blake turns and looks at her. Let’s go of a chocking Alexis, we all knew wasn’t going to dye, and says, “Oh my God.” Alexis lunges for Blake and the two go off the balcony. Now? Is Alexis going to die? Joan replaced with Lucy, would have been a cliff hanger keeping us on our toes. BTW I don’t think she should have replaced her but it could have added to the drama especially with rumors of contract negotiations. And Alexis with a mother to explain some stuff could have been fun.
 

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even liked her in Mame singing and I’m not a musical fan.
She was okay singing but her voice was too much like Bea Arthur's when they duetted. Angela Lansbury was the original Mame on Broadway and the song "Bosom Buddies" from the cast album sounds better with the contrasting voices. (Just my opinion :lol: )
 

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It was the dramatic TV movie STONE PILLOW (1985)

I recently rewatched this movie for the first time in ages. It's an interesting but misguided performance by Lucille, showing both her strengths and weaknesses. There's a strong attention to characterization detail, which is what made her comedy work so well. It's also a very old-fashioned performance; her acting was firmly rooted in the inspirations of her youth, Silent movies and vaudeville. Even in a movie attempting gritty social realism, she couldn't avoid Chaplin-esque schmaltz and mugging. It's why she was so good at comedy and even, when given the chance, melodrama but grounded acting was not really in her wheelhouse.
 

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THE LUCY SHOW morphed into HERE'S LUCY in 1968. Lucille Ball sold Desilu Studios to Gulf+Western and she decided to end THE LUCY SHOW since she no longer owned it outright.

Still, CBS wanted to keep Lucy on their lineup. She was given the go ahead for HERE'S LUCY with no pilot screening necessary. The show premiered in the same time slot THE LUCY SHOW had left vacant, and employed a similar premise.

HERE'S LUCY spent from 1968 to 1972 in the Nielsen Top 10, before viewership slowly started to dwindle. I've read Lucy and intended on ending the show in 1972, but that this was likely a ploy for more money. So, what about 1973, when she was apparently going to end the show again? Lucy and Gale Gordon even filmed a series finale without a studio audience. It was Fred Silverman, or so I read, that encouraged her to do one more season. HERE'S LUCY would end in 1974 after six seasons and 144 episodes, but it seems CBS had tired of the show. They wrangled with how to cancel Lucy, who had been one of the defining stars for the network, but felt it was pivotal to their longevity to incorporate new shows into their lineup.

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Ok, I'm finally going to do it. Tomorrow I'm going to start a complete watch of I LOVE LUCY. I want to get every single episode in the can this year.

For real. I mean it this time.

Which must include all 13 installments of THE LUCY-DESI COMEDY HOUR, the proper epilogue to I LOVE LUCY.

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Which must include all 13 installments of THE LUCY-DESI COMEDY HOUR, the proper epilogue to I LOVE LUCY.

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You know, I've never watched the hour-long LUCY-DESI episodes. I've seen them re-edited as half-hour episodes and retitled WE LOVE LUCY when Hallmark used to show them, but never in their original form.
 

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You know, I've never watched the hour-long LUCY-DESI episodes. I've seen them re-edited as half-hour episodes and retitled WE LOVE LUCY when Hallmark used to show them, but never in their original form.

And that's what probably should have happened originally: had the LUCY-DESI episodes divided into 26 half-hour segments and then added to the I LOVE LUCY syndication package (as apparently they've done now).
 

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Ok, I'm a little behind on my I LOVE LUCY binge. I didn't get the opportunity to start until this morning, but I got two episodes in the can.

Season 1
S1, E1 - "The Girls Want to Go to a Nightclub"
S1, E2 - "Be a Pal"

It's been a long time since I've watched these early I LOVE LUCY episodes because, frankly, I don't find them quite as funny.

The first episode itself is actually quite shaky. The cast are trying to find their footing, and even the audience reactions seem a little different than what I remember from later episodes.

Fred and Ethel aren't bickering as much as one might would guess, but signs of their love-hate marriage is already there, especially in Fred's remarks about Ethel.

In the second episode, we're shown how Lucy will go to great lengths to salvage what she feels is stagnant marriage with Ricky. Laying aside the message that the woman has to do the changing to keep the man interested, there's some good comedy to be had here. The "Carmen Miranda" bit towards the end is funny, but one wonders where did they get all the "Cuban" decor?

Best episode: "Be a Pal"

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