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Some stray observations about the episode ...
- It's one of the better late entries of THE LUCY SHOW, but still isn't very good.
- Joan was still a fine looking broad in her mid-60s, but she got stuck with a crummy wardrobe on the show.
- Vivian's facelift was pretty bad, but Lucy was a marvel of makeup. Cosmetic chicanery and a lack of closeups made her look twenty years younger than she looked in private photos of the time.
- Joan had absolutely no flair for comedy. Sure she could sling a bitchy line well, but actual comedy seemed to elude her. Here, as in her rare full comedy films, she seemed to think comedy meant smiling. Beyond that, she sounds hesitant and vaguely like she's mimicking Bette Davis.
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I remember her from the Little Women series of the 70s.
I remember watching some Lucy Show episodes and thinking about how awful Candy Moore, who played Lucy’s daughter Chris, was. She delivered all her lines at the top of her voice in a sing songy tone. But she stated in the The Lucy Book that Lucy instructed her to say her lines that way. And when I saw Moore on other shows, she was perfectly fine. So I buy that Lucy had something to do with Dusenberry’s performance.
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Hmm, I wonder why she was instructed to do it that way?
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I've been watching the development of the Aaron Sorkin Lucille Ball movie for some time. Original casting was alleged to be Cate Blanchett and Oscar Isaac, which I thought was pretty solid. Now it's Nicole Kidman and Javier Bardem , which seems pretty terrible; especially Kidman.
Even worse is the internet's odd obsession that Debra Messing should play Lucille. I thought she was awful in the WILL & GRACE Lucy episode and looked as much like "Lucy" -- with wig, eye lashes and lots of makeup -- as any drag queen would.
Even worse is the internet's odd obsession that Debra Messing should play Lucille. I thought she was awful in the WILL & GRACE Lucy episode and looked as much like "Lucy" -- with wig, eye lashes and lots of makeup -- as any drag queen would.
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I think Blanchett and Isaac would be much better than Kidman and Bardem. Do the people arguing in favor of Debra Messing not understand the premise of the movie? This isn't a remake of I Love Lucy, it's a look at the marriage of Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz. The fact that Aaron Sorkin is behind it should be another clue that this isn't a sitcom. I'm concerned about the presence of Lucie Arnaz and Desi Arnaz Jr. as executive producers, how objective can this be with them in charge?
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Desi Jr has been mostly detached from show biz since the 80s and mostly leaves it to his sister to be the face of their family; how involved he is in this project, other than being listed as an executive producer and (presumably) collecting a salary, is debatable. As for Lucie, she has a very balanced view of her parents; having spoken with great admiration for their accomplishments and their love for each other, and with great bitterness at how distant they were as parents.
We’ve already had a few Lucy movies. Do we really need another? I admire her accomplishments as an actress, but is her personal life really that compelling? She had a successful career, a passionate first marriage to a man who was very different from her and which ultimately failed, and a second marriage to a more laid back man and which ultimately succeeded. Plenty of people have had marriages that failed.
And yeah - Debra Messing is no Lucy. She has helped fuel her fans’ interest in this. She actively campaigned for the role in the movie, from what I understand.
And yeah - Debra Messing is no Lucy. She has helped fuel her fans’ interest in this. She actively campaigned for the role in the movie, from what I understand.
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Messing has gone full-on Sean Young in lobbying for this part.
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Crummy movies. I'd like to think Lucille deserves at least one film of quality (whether it will be this one remains to be seen, but that cast doesn't bode well). That said, Desi's life was a far more interesting source for a film.
The Sorkin film apparently isn't a biography of either, but set during one week of production of I LOVE LUCY, focusing on off screen drama. I presume its the week Lucille was publicly accused of being a communist and her career was in jeopardy.
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Given Sorkin's previous films and series (especially The American President) I think you may be right.
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Lucille Ball's daughter defends Nicole Kidman's casting in Being The Ricardos
Lucille Ball's daughter Lucie Arnaz has backed the decision to cast Nicole Kidman as her mother in 'Being The Ricardos'.
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One of the biggest things that attracted me to HERE'S LUCY was the fact that Lucille Ball used her real life children as her on-screen kids. That reason alone gave this series an edge over THE LUCY SHOW in my young mind when I started watching these shows years ago. Overall, I still prefer HERE'S LUCY over the former show, even though I respect the former if primarily for its first season alone.
I wanted to dedicate a little conversation to Lucy and Desi's kids: Lucie Arnaz and Desi Arnaz Jr. They definitely inherited their parents' talent. Lucie was pretty, funny, and had substantial singing and dancing capabilities. Desi Jr. was handsome, musically inclined, and was adept with one-liners.
I really like those earlier episodes of HERE'S LUCY where Lucie and Desi Jr. are both still around. After the second season, Desi Jr. lessened his involvement; he began touring, appearing in films, and just simply doing other things. He even guested on THE BRADY BUNCH as himself. Lucie stayed for the entire six-season-duration of HERE'S LUCY, and eventually gained a more substantial role on the show as her mother slowed down a little after breaking her leg skiing.
I don't hear a whole lot about Lucie or Desi Jr. anymore. I have enjoyed watched the Archives of American Television Lucie did several years ago.
Any thoughts on Lucy's kids?
I wanted to dedicate a little conversation to Lucy and Desi's kids: Lucie Arnaz and Desi Arnaz Jr. They definitely inherited their parents' talent. Lucie was pretty, funny, and had substantial singing and dancing capabilities. Desi Jr. was handsome, musically inclined, and was adept with one-liners.
I really like those earlier episodes of HERE'S LUCY where Lucie and Desi Jr. are both still around. After the second season, Desi Jr. lessened his involvement; he began touring, appearing in films, and just simply doing other things. He even guested on THE BRADY BUNCH as himself. Lucie stayed for the entire six-season-duration of HERE'S LUCY, and eventually gained a more substantial role on the show as her mother slowed down a little after breaking her leg skiing.
I don't hear a whole lot about Lucie or Desi Jr. anymore. I have enjoyed watched the Archives of American Television Lucie did several years ago.
Any thoughts on Lucy's kids?
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Lucie Arnaz appeared in an I Love Lucy inspired episode of Will & Grace, she played a supervisor at a candy factory. The last thing I remember seeing her in was an episode of Law & Order, a plot inspired by Martha Stewart's insider trading though much more involved to include a murder. Lucie was very good in the role and she looked great. It's a shame she didn't show up in guest roles in more series.
Lucie had a series in the mid 80s inspired by the U.K. series Agony. I saw several episodes of Agony on a local PBS station but I never saw Lucie's remake so I don't know if it was any good.
I haven't seen Desi in anything since The Brady Bunch.
I've always preferred The Lucy Show (especially the first couple of seasons) to Here's Lucy. For me, the best part of Here's Lucy when I was a kid was the opening with the Lucy puppet, after that the actual episodes were a disappointment.
Lucie had a series in the mid 80s inspired by the U.K. series Agony. I saw several episodes of Agony on a local PBS station but I never saw Lucie's remake so I don't know if it was any good.
I haven't seen Desi in anything since The Brady Bunch.
I've always preferred The Lucy Show (especially the first couple of seasons) to Here's Lucy. For me, the best part of Here's Lucy when I was a kid was the opening with the Lucy puppet, after that the actual episodes were a disappointment.
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I have not seen that episode, but if it isn't an episode of SVU, then that's probably why. SVU is my favorite in the LAW & ORDER franchise.
I watched in interview Lucie Arnaz did about her show (which I've linked below) and I know there is a few episodes of the show on YouTube (I've linked the pilot episode below).
Apparently Lucie had mixed feelings about CBS changing the name of her series from AGONY to THE LUCIE ARNAZ SHOW. On one hand, she was flattered that her "name was out there", but she also felt it was "stupid" to change the title because she wasn't playing a character called Lucie Arnaz. CBS said the title AGONY was too short and TV wouldn't be able to find it easy in TV Guide.
THE LUCIE ARNAZ SHOW apparently had poor ratings and was axed after six episodes were aired.
I haven't seen Desi Jr. in anything outside of HERE'S LUCY and THE BRADY BUNCH, but I could've sworn he did some movies back in the seventies. I guess I could just check Wikipedia to find out for sure.
My niece used to love to watch the opening to HERE'S LUCY when I first got the DVDs. She was also disappointed the episodes were live-action and not cartoon.
I've always had a fondness for HERE'S LUCY over THE LUCY SHOW. The former series started out strong, but it went down when Vivian Vance left. While I won't argue that the former necessarily improved on anything, I do like that Lucie and Desi Jr. were around, and it seemed as if Lucille Ball and Gale Gordon had settled into their roles. Maybe it is nostalgia that fuels my favoritism towards HERE'S LUCY.
I've always had a fondness for HERE'S LUCY over THE LUCY SHOW. The former series started out strong, but it went down when Vivian Vance left. While I won't argue that the former necessarily improved on anything, I do like that Lucie and Desi Jr. were around, and it seemed as if Lucille Ball and Gale Gordon had settled into their roles. Maybe it is nostalgia that fuels my favoritism towards HERE'S LUCY.
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Both showed great potential in the 70s, but were more or less retired by the mid- to late- 80s, for very different reasons. Lucie put her career on hold to focus on raising her kids, something which her own parents clearly had not done. Desi Jr. suffered from a decades long addiction problem and seemed to regard show business as the trigger to his temptations.
Desi Jr. has not performed since 1992, when he played Desi Sr. in THE MAMBO KINGS. He seldom gives interviews, preferring to let Lucie be the face of their family. I don't think he ever displayed the same gifts for acting that his sister had, but he was good looking and charismatic in his younger days. He left HERE'S LUCY after three seasons because he thought he had a promising film career.
Lucie never seemed to find her niche; maybe she couldn't elude the shadow of her parents. Her couple attempts at her own series -- including a proposed spin-off of HERE'S LUCY -- had no success. She's bounced around TV, movies and theater, but disappears for years at a time. I assume she inherited enough from her mom that acting has been more of a hobby than a career.
As much as I adore I LOVE LUCY and like THE LUCY SHOW, I find HERE'S LUCY to border on unwatchable. I think the best episodes of that show are worse than an adequate episode of TLS. It's particularly galling to realize that stale, worn out show was airing concurrently with such fresh, innovative series as MTM and ALL IN THE FAMILY.
I hadn't expected much from that episode of WILL & GRACE, but man that was bad. KATE & ALLEY did a much better I LOVE LUCY homage.
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In my alterative DYNASTIER world, she's Dominique's zany bank secretary, completely gobsmacked by all the huge cheques Miss Deveraux keeps writing for her brother. And when Carol Carter Carmichael intercedes to protect her client, hi-jinx ensue. And somehow the batter for a birthday cake for Little Blake winds up all over a wall.
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Lucie and Desi Jr. did both show promise in the seventies. Lucie seems to have had a career primarily focused on television. Her debut came on THE LUCY SHOW in 1962, and she did all six seasons of HERE'S LUCY. Right after the latter series was cancelled, she starred as Elizabeth Short, otherwise known as the Black Dahlia, in a 1975 made-for-television movie about the infamous late forties murder case. She had her HERE'S LUCY spin-off that died on the drawing board, the pilot for ONE MORE TRY in 1982 that never went to series, and her self-titled sitcom lasted less than two months in 1985. In between this she did have some decent big screen roles too. She appeared in THE JAZZ SINGER (1980) and starred in SECOND THOUGHTS (1983). I'd agree that Lucie Arnaz holds no regrets about her career; she seems fine with the way it went. She enjoyed what she did, but she was primarily focused on being a mother to her kids instead making a name for herself in show business.
I know less about Desi Arnaz Jr. and his career. He had his musical career that he fueled, and he did seem to think that he had a promising film career in the early seventies, which is why he left HERE'S LUCY after a while. His first featured role in a big screen vehicle came with RED SKY AT MORNING in 1971, which lead to him playing the title roles in MARCO (1973) and BILLY TWO HATS (1974). The latter film was a Western starring Old Hollywood actor Gregory Peck. It seems he had decent reviews and Desi Jr. was quite popular. He reads as something a late sixties/early seventies version of Rick Nelson and Fabian; handsome, talented, and hopeful. He had a lot of television roles over the years too, appearing in many well-received telefilms in the seventies and eighties. His addictions hindered his success and he pushed himself away from the limelight.
I know am in the minority with liking HERE'S LUCY as much as I do. Maybe it's the fact that it holds some nostalgia for being the first post-I LOVE LUCY series of Lucille Ball's that I actually owned and watched. I had seen tidbits of THE LUCY SHOW, but HERE'S LUCY just holds the edge in my heart.
In saying that, I will agree that HERE'S LUCY looked very old-fashioned when compared to such groundbreaking hits like ALL IN THE FAMILY and MARY TYLER MOORE in the early seventies. Even so, HERE'S LUCY was still drawing in healthy Nielsen ratings when it ended in 1974.
In saying that, I will agree that HERE'S LUCY looked very old-fashioned when compared to such groundbreaking hits like ALL IN THE FAMILY and MARY TYLER MOORE in the early seventies. Even so, HERE'S LUCY was still drawing in healthy Nielsen ratings when it ended in 1974.
I had heard so much about this WILL & GRACE homage that I had to get on YouTube last night to see them for myself. Being a casual fan of WILL & GRACE, I cannot deny that I enjoyed them as the I LOVE LUCY characters. I thought they were funny, if not historically accurate or effective.
I've also heard a lot about how so many people apparently want Debra Messing to play Lucille Ball in a biopic. My take on her performance as Lucy is mixed. Personally, I thought Debra looked a lot like Lucy in the scenes she recreated, but what threw me off was her voice. It's too cheery and squeaky. It just doesn't fit. I'd probably be opened to Debra playing Lucy too, even though her chance would probably be on the small screen as it is more her forte.
I've also heard a lot about how so many people apparently want Debra Messing to play Lucille Ball in a biopic. My take on her performance as Lucy is mixed. Personally, I thought Debra looked a lot like Lucy in the scenes she recreated, but what threw me off was her voice. It's too cheery and squeaky. It just doesn't fit. I'd probably be opened to Debra playing Lucy too, even though her chance would probably be on the small screen as it is more her forte.
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I think she looks like "Lucy" in the same way a drag queen might look like "Lucy". With that much makeup and a wig, just about anyone would be recognizable as "Lucy". What every single recreation of "Lucy" misses -- from Gilda to Debra to Frances Fisher -- was that Lucille Ball was a beautiful woman. In that photo, Debra looks more like Carol Burnett than Lucille Ball.
Based on the accent he used, Eric McCormick apparently thinks Ricky was played by Bela Lugosi.