Marjorie Taylor Greene Doesn't Understand How Government Works

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Anyone paying even the slightest attention to Marjorie Taylor Greene has already realized she isn't very smart. They also have realized she's crazy. As evidence of both I offer the following: a video of Greene and a couple of her friends outside the door of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Congressional office. In the video, recorded in 2019 before Greene was elected to Congress, she complains about New York state law concerning abortion. Greene clearly doesn't understand that state laws are passed in state legislatures - not in the U.S. Congress. That Greene would know so little about the workings of government only a year before she herself was elected to Congress tells us a great deal about the ignorance of Greene and her constituents.

 

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Marjorie Taylor Greene is not only stupid she is a disgrace and dangerous. It's a poor reflection on American politics that someone like her could be elected to Congress.
 

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She's really reflective of modern Conservatism though, isn't she? No interest in governing or legislature -- not even within scope of helping her own constituents -- just vague cultural grievances and "owning the Libs".
 

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Modern libs aren't really interested in governing either, though. These days, it's an ideology centered around identity politics, platitudes, and a faux sense of unity. In fact, modern libs have openly welcomed and embraced neocons through their shared hated of Trump (as well as their hatred of progressives and poor people, and their love of war.)

Conservatives like Greene lack the ability to act sane and maintain their composure in public, thus why Dems seem like the "adults in the room." But it's just political theater. The only constituents Dems and Republicans are interested in helping are those who don't need the help. Rich elites and the military industrial complex are running the show.
 
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Greene is now facing legal trouble for declaring the homestead tax deduction on two houses, you can only use it for your primary residence.
 

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Modern libs aren't really interested in governing either, though. These days, it's an ideology centered around identity politics, platitudes, and a faux sense of unity. In fact, modern libs have openly welcomed and embraced neocons through their shared hated of Trump (as well as their hatred of progressives and poor people, and their love of war.)

Conservatives like Greene lack the ability to act sane and maintain their composure in public, thus why Dems seem like the "adults in the room." But it's just political theater. The only constituents Dems and Republicans are interested in helping are those who don't need the help. Rich elites and the military industrial complex are running the show.
You're right.

However, given the choice between disengenous "adults" who at least attempt to remain sane and reasoned and batshit crazy nutbags who don't even understand their function as elected officials, I'll take the disengenous "adults" every single time.
 

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You're right.

However, given the choice between disengenous "adults" who at least attempt to remain sane and reasoned and batshit crazy nutbags who don't even understand their function as elected officials, I'll take the disengenous "adults" every single time.
That's understandable, but it's also why the ruling class elites prefer the disingenuous adults. They're masters of deception, and thus more palatable to the American public.

I don't feel like I have a dog in this fight anymore. I can see how George Carlin became detached from it with age, and why he viewed American politics with cynical amusement.
 
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In the long run, the disingenuous adult are more dangerous.
Yes, because their damage is much more insidious. I can't tell you how many liberals I've heard saying "I don't have to pay attention to politics now that Trump's gone."

Obnoxious trolls like Greene and Trump provide a great scapegoat for neocons and neoliberals. "Don't pay attention to us as we rape and pillage, look at the clowns over there."

Trump advocated bombing Iraq and stealing their oil. Biden's recently appointed advisor Neera Tanden advocated bombing Libya and stealing their oil. The difference is Trump made his stance known publicly, while Tanden revealed her stance in a hacked private email provided to Wikileaks. It reminds me of the hacked emails which revealed Hillary Clinton held both public and private positions on the issues. The establishment's disdain for politicians like Trump and Greene isn't ideological, it's because they have no filter.
 
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Opinion: Marjorie Taylor Greene's Holocaust comments aren't just vile. They're dangerous​


GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene is dangerous. The Georgia congresswoman's comparison of having to wear a piece of cloth on her face while she's on the House floor to Adolf Hitler waging a genocide that resulted in the slaughter of over six million Jewish people is revolting.

While many of Greene's bigoted comments, such as calling the election of two Muslim women to Congress in 2018 an "Islamic invasion of our government," occurred before she was elected to Congress, her vile belittling of the horrors of the Holocaust by suggesting they were similar to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi requiring members of the House to wear masks on the floor of the chamber are more dangerous because she made them as a member of government. Earlier this week, Greene jaw-droppingly declared on a conservative podcast, "We can look back at a time in history where people were told to wear a gold star, and they were definitely treated like second class citizens, so much so that they were put in trains and taken to gas chambers in Nazi Germany." Then she added: "And this is exactly the type of abuse that Nancy Pelosi is talking about."

The American Jewish Congress immediately slammed Greene's remark and called for an apology, stating that health-related restrictions can never be compared with yellow stars, gas chambers and other Nazi atrocities. "Such comparisons demean the Holocaust & contaminate American political speech," the organization said in a tweet.

Greene, however, is refusing to back down. "I stand by all of my statements...I said nothing wrong," she told an Arizona reporter after she and GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz held a rally in the state that perpetuated Donald Trump's Big Lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him. Greene's alarming repetition of Trump's falsehood, along with her previous targeting of minorities, seems to be drawn from the Trump playbook. That it's dangerous can be seen in the undeniable data showing a documented spike in hate crimes during Trump's time in office. And his incitement of the Jan. 6 act of "domestic terrorism," as FBI Director Christopher Wray described the attack on our Capitol, was predicated upon that Big Lie.

It's impossible to know exactly why Greene invoked the Holocaust -- besides perhaps a need for attention at any cost. But Greene's defense of these comments is potentially a dangerous demonization of Jewish Americans who don't agree with her views. "I stand by all of my statements...I said nothing wrong."

Greene then alarmingly added, "I think any rational Jewish person didn't like what happened in Nazi Germany, and any rational Jewish person doesn't like what's happening with overbearing mask mandates and overbearing vaccine policies." Greene is now telling her supporters that "rational" Jews should support her views, meaning only irrational Jews would be concerned by her comments that demeaned the Holocaust. You don't need to be an expert on demonization to understand how this could result in more vitriol by Greene's supporters directed against Jews who continue to denounce her comments.

Greene can't be dismissed as a lone wolf bigot. She has a large network of supporters, as evidenced by her astonishingly raising over $3 million in campaign donations in just the first three months of the year. (In contrast, New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez raised only $726,000 in her own first three months in office.) Adding to concerns is the recent alarming rise in anti-Semitic hate crimes arising from the fighting in the Middle East between Hamas and Israel.

This is not the first time Greene has made bigoted comments about Jews or furthered dangerous anti-Semitic tropes. Earlier this year, Greene suffered a backlash when her 2018 Facebook post came to light where she claimed the deadly wildfires in California were caused by a laser from space that was possibly controlled by the Rothschild investment bank. As the Times of Israel noted in January, "suggesting that the Rothschild family is conspiring to cause damage for profit is a longstanding anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, and one that is baked into the QAnon mythology." (Greene defended this post by incredibly saying she hadn't known the Rothschilds were Jewish.)

Greene also peddled another anti-Semitic trope that received less attention but is potentially even more dangerous. As the Times of Israel detailed, in 2018 Greene shared on Facebook a video advocating the White nationalist "Great Replacement" theory that "falsely alleges that Jews are conspiring to undermine White-majority countries by bringing in non-White immigrants." This toxic conspiracy theory appears to have helped fuel the 2018 attack by the White nationalist -- a man who posted messages that Jews were helping to transport members of migrant caravans -- charged with the tragic murders of 11 Jews in Pittsburgh's Tree of Life Synagogue.

A number of House Republicans have slammed Greene's latest remarks. Rep. Liz Cheney, who was recently removed from her House GOP leadership position for calling out Trump for continuing his Big Lie, slammed them as "evil lunacy." But by Sunday morning, House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy was still silent. When Greene was involved in another controversy in February, he issued a statement that he "unequivocally" condemned her past comments on "school shootings, political violence and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories," saying that they "do not represent the values or beliefs of the House Republican Conference." He did not, however, join the 11 House Republicans who voted with Democrats to remove her from her committee assignments.

It's time for the GOP leadership to denounce Greene's despicable words in one loud voice to make it clear there's no place for anti-Semitism or any other form of fearmongering of minorities in America. Given the stakes, any Republican leader who stays silent in the face of Greene's continued bigotry must be viewed as complicit.

Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...le-they-re-dangerous/ar-AAKiRie?ocid=msedgntp
 

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Marjorie Taylor Green is resigning in January after a major falling out with Trump over issues such as Israel and the Epstein files.

She's come off as a rather unhinged loon in the past, which is why I found her resignation speech surprisingly astute. Her critique of both parties is identical to my own.

Greene said "Americans are used by the political industrial complex of both political parties election cycle after election cycle in order to elect whichever side can convince Americans to hate the other side more, and the results are always the same. No matter which way the political pendulum swings, Republican or Democrat, nothing ever gets better for the common American man or woman. The debt goes higher, corporate and global interests remain Washington's sweethearts, American jobs continue to be replaced, whether it's by illegal labor, or legal labor by visas, or just shipped overseas. Small businesses continue to be swallowed by big corporations, Americans hard earned tax dollars always fund foreign wars, foreign aid, and foreign interests, and the spending power of the dollar continues to decline. The average American family can no longer survive on a single breadwinner's income, as both parents have to work in order to simply survive. And today, many in my children's generation feel hopeless for their future and don't think they will ever realize the American dream. That breaks my heart. I ran for Congress in 2020 and have fought every single day believing that "make America great again" meant make America first."

Funny how this latest statement from Greene perfectly encapsulates exactly how government works.
 

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Despite her obvious flaws -- and I disagree with many things she's said in the past -- this is actually not good, her resignation.

MTG is one of the only people in Congress who's genuinely against the wars and demands the Epstein files be released. (She's kind of like Roseanne Barr --- crazy-crazy but not Crazy: she says a lot of whacky things, but she's reasonably perceptive and, yes, there are elites who indeed drink the blood of dead babies).

She apparently had a screaming fight with Trump yesterday.... Do they have something on her? A dead hooker in a motel room??

They don't need the Jeffrey Epsteins anymore to sexually blackmail you anymore; they've got Pegasus which can implant "underaged material" on your phone or computer from a remote location.

Maybe they just threatened to kill her... Who knows? Obviously, we'll be hearing more pretty quickly.
 
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I honestly don't know how I feel about this. MTG has been a dangerous public figure. She deplores speech calling for political violence NOW, when it is directed at her, but has been personally responsible for some of the most vile and proactive hate speech we have heard over the past 5 years.

That said, I admire her sticking to her guns on her core beliefs and refusing to allow Trump and his cult to intimidate her into changing some of her key votes (including on the discharge petition.

I guess I just think it's sad and scary. This woman has been one of Trump's biggest champions, yet a few policy disagreements led to him calling her a traitor and siccing his rabid MAGAts on her. I can't blame her for resigning. I wouldn't want to live under constant threat of violent retaliation either.
 

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Yes, Marjorie Taylor Greene is one of those personalities that inspires ambivalence.

It's funny how the conservatives were laughing a few years ago over the left being fractured. Now they're going through their own divisions over Israel and the Epstein files.
 

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It's funny how the conservatives were laughing a few years ago over the left being fractured. Now they're going through their own divisions over Israel and the Epstein files.
I see the Republicans heading for a HUGE meltdown. Trump is essentially a lame duck at this point and Vance doesn't inspire the same kind of rabid loyalty and dedication from MAGA. Without Trump on the ticket, Republicans are going to have a tough time winning elections in competitive districts.

The Republican control of the House is razor thin and there's a real chance they may lose seats in the midterms.

Trump's confusing behavior regarding Saudi Arabia, Ukraine, Israel, Epstein, and New York's new mayor is making a lot to GOP rank and file nervous and angry.

Maybe Marge sees the handwriting on the wall and decided to get off the Titanic before it slams against the ice berg.
 
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