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No mention of Dallas or NYPD blue - and Quite a few I have never seen but glad to see Tenko, Tinker tailor, OFAH, Fawlty towers, Hills street blues amongst others make the cut

What else should have been included??
 

Willie Oleson

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What a fascinating hodgepodge of popular entertainment and big TV moments.
What else should have been included??
I can't answer that question. Every nation would have its own unique list, with some overlaps regarding international entertainment and historic moments.
I suspect the Dutch list would feature the German krimi DERRICK, the British series WHO PAYS THE FERRYMAN?, the Scandinavian series PIPPI LANGSTRUMPF and also THE FLYING DOCTORS from Australia.
BIG BROTHER is the Dutch TV concept that became an international success and therefore warrants inclusion.
 

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Nice to to see some shows I've enjoyed over the years like Just A Minute, Seven Up!, Tenko, Victoria Wood: As Seen On TV, The Two Ronnies, dinnerladies and UpDown.

I'd quite like to have seen Round The Horne included. Of imports, I feel Columbo and Cagney & Lacey deserve a spot.

Me-That's-Currently-Watching-1984-Brookside feels it's shameful that it's not included. But Me-Who-Suffered-Through-The-Mid-Nineties-Hoping-It-Would-Return-To-Form and Me-Who-Fell-Asleep-Twice-Watching-The-Last-Episode both accept that sometimes these things have to be taken in their entirety. I imagine that's why some shows like Dallas didn't make it in.

But then Corrie and Enders are included and any long-running series is going to have periods that aren't as good/enjoyable/entertaining as others.

Loads of British sitcoms spring to mind particularly some of the Larbey/Esmonde ones. I'd made peace with the fact that usual suspects such as Only Fools... are always automatically included to represent sitcoms but I'm still finding it difficult to reconcile the omission of something like Ever Decreasing Circles to make space for Not On Your Bloody Nellie: a short-lived sitcom spinoff which was drastically inferior to the parent series and whose wheels well and truly came off at the end (though I also simultaneously appreciate RTD's context and cheer the inclusion of a less-"obvious" sitcom choice).






I can't answer that question. Every nation would have its own unique list, with some overlaps regarding international entertainment and historic moments.

Yes, and even even within one nation, there's never going to be agreement over what's "best". Change a couple of the people offering their choices and the entire list would change drastically.

The problem with any "best of" list is: how is it quantified? It's always going to disappoint because there are so many factors - many of them subjective - which make something feel best/better/bad to any individual* .

A change of semantics would probably have helped keep expectations in check. If they'd factually named it "Media Luvvies' Favourites" it would be bulletproof. In that context it's an entertaining read, and I think personal experiences with series are frequently more interesting than dry stats of most-watched this or that.

As soon as someone invokes the word "best", though, I'm overcome with perversity.



* Even on these boards, you can visit areas dedicated to specific series where a group of members agrees that "X" is the best show ever while also supplying numerous examples of characters, storylines and sometimes years' worth of episodes that are all arguments against it being the best.
 

Barbara Fan

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I'd quite like to have seen Round The Horne included
Absolutely, it was one of the funniset radio shows out there

Plus its got this as an entry- who what and why! A mother voting her daughters show - Never heard of it and far more deserving shows missed out x

89. Popworld - C4 (2001)

Watching my daughter Miquita and Simon Amstell changing not only how broadcasters looked but the way that they conducted interviews made me so proud! Hilarious and irreverent but never unkind, all youth music programming has sought to emulate that impact ever since. Andi Oliver.
 

Willie Oleson

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The problem with any "best of" list is: how is it quantified?
I don't think it's possible. Perhaps it all depends on how the voter backs up his/her choice (which I've tried to do for my greatest motion pictures list).
A mother voting her daughters show
A questionable choice, to say the least. Not that her daughter's opinion doesn't matter, but she didn't partake in compiling this list.
and I think personal experiences with series are frequently more interesting than dry stats of most-watched this or that
Absolutely, if only because these personal lists often include TV series/programmes I hadn't heard of before.
I had no idea that BILLY BUNTER was also made into a TV series (it happens to be my all-time favourite comic, that is to say, the Dutch version BILLIE TURF and its sister spin-off BESSIE TURF).
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What else should have been included??
Actually, I do think some titles coulda/shoulda have been included in this UK radio/TV list.
-Bouquet Of Barbed Wire
-I, Claudius
-House Of Cards
 

Mel O'Drama

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A mother voting her daughters show - Never heard of it and far more deserving shows missed out x
A questionable choice, to say the least. Not that her daughter's opinion doesn't matter, but she didn't partake in compiling this list.

It certainly looks like it had its memorable moments. Simon Amstell shaming a homophobic rapper live on air (culminating with him giving Beenie Man a banana on which he'd written his phone number) probably makes it worth some kind of mention. Then there was Simon asked a bewildered Britney if she'd ever licked a battery, which was daft-but-entertaining.

What makes this particular vote really questionable for me is the attempt to frame the series (and her daughter) as dramatically influential, revolutionary and pioneering: "my daughter Miquita and Simon Amstell changing... how broadcasters looked". I mean, they just looked like two TV presenters. Even twenty years ago, there was nothing about seeing them that was going to ruffle anyone's feathers.

At that point The Tube was two decades old, for example. Popworld feels like just another spin on stuff we'd already been watching for decades. By 2001 standards it was pretty safe.

I don't get what she's trying to say, so it comes across like virtue signalling to try and back up a choice that clearly wasn't for that reason at all.




Perhaps it all depends on how the voter backs up his/her choice (which I've tried to do for my greatest motion pictures list).

Absolutely. This kind of subjectivity makes for fascinating reading and even changes my perspective of some.





-Bouquet Of Barbed Wire
-I, Claudius
-House Of Cards

Oh dear. Three more for the viewing bucket list.
 

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

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No mention of Return To Eden either!

These lists are always subjective and are never properly representative anyway.

Prisoner Cell Block H probably isn't on it either. I didn't scroll down the entire list so I'm not sure.

Lists like these are always meaningless because we all enjoy so many different shows over many different genres so it's never going to be properly representative anyway. :)
 

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At least Doctor Who, Star Trek, Dad's Army and Queer As Folk are on it.

I've just scrolled right down the list.

All ground breaking and beloved series. So at least they got some of it right. ;)
 

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No mention of Return To Eden either!

These lists are always subjective and are never properly representative anyway.

Prisoner Cell Block H probably isn't on it either. I didn't scroll down the entire list so I'm not sure.

Lists like these are always meaningless because we all enjoy so many different shows over many different genres so it's never going to be properly representative anyway. :)
Might be only uk shows in radio times 100.
 
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