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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 419459" data-attributes="member: 35">From what I&#039;ve gathered, it was George H.W. Bush&#039;s Secretary of State who vowed that &quot;NATO would not move one inch eastward.&quot;&nbsp; That sounds like an assurance to me. CIA Director Robert Gates criticized “pressing ahead with expansion of NATO eastward [in the 1990s], when Gorbachev and others were led to believe that wouldn’t happen”.&nbsp; I give it credence because it&#039;s backed by many top US officials and journalists, and such accounts can be found in publications other than the one named after a &quot;beauty parlor.&quot;Then Putin is just as contradictory as most US politicians.&nbsp; In 2015, Putin said he had “no desire to recreate the empire, to resurrect the Soviet Union, but [had] to protect our Russian independence and sovereignty.”&nbsp; Even if he wanted to, it doesn&#039;t sound like he has the capability if he&#039;s been struggling for 3 years just to conquer part of Ukraine.After three years of throwing weapons at the problem, I&#039;m not sure what the end goal is supposed to be.&nbsp;&nbsp; Is the US supposed to continue spending billions to fight a war they provoked while innocent Ukrainians continue to be killed?&nbsp; Is there no path to peace because of what Putin might do? And then there&#039;s Putin&#039;s threat to use nuclear weapons.It&#039;s all so bleak and depressing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 419459, member: 35"] From what I've gathered, it was George H.W. Bush's Secretary of State who vowed that "NATO would not move one inch eastward." That sounds like an assurance to me. CIA Director Robert Gates criticized “[I]pressing ahead with expansion of NATO eastward [in the 1990s], when Gorbachev and others were led to believe that wouldn’t happen[/I]”. I give it credence because it's backed by many top US officials and journalists, and such accounts can be found in publications other than the one named after a "beauty parlor." Then Putin is just as contradictory as most US politicians. In 2015, Putin said he had “no desire to recreate the empire, to resurrect the Soviet Union, but [had] to protect our Russian independence and sovereignty.” Even if he wanted to, it doesn't sound like he has the capability if he's been struggling for 3 years just to conquer part of Ukraine. After three years of throwing weapons at the problem, I'm not sure what the end goal is supposed to be. Is the US supposed to continue spending billions to fight a war they provoked while innocent Ukrainians continue to be killed? Is there no path to peace because of what Putin [I]might[/I] do? And then there's Putin's threat to use nuclear weapons. It's all so bleak and depressing. [/QUOTE]

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