Sanders takes on Biden: 'There is no middle ground'

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SAN FRANCISCO — Sen. Bernie Sanders took aim at former Vice President Joe Biden on the final day of the California Democratic Convention Sunday, repeatedly declaring that there can be "no middle ground" when it comes to Democratic primary politics.

"As you all know, there is a debate among presidential candidates who have spoken to you here in this room and those who have chosen for whatever reason not to be in this room," the Vermont senator and socialist told the gathering in San Francisco to cheers from his supporters who swarmed the stage.

Liberal activists at the convention have taken a series of political shots at the more-moderate Biden for declining to attend the three-day event, while 14 other White House hopefuls addressed party faithful. Instead, the current front-runner of the crowded field jostling for the right to challenge President Trump next year elected to make remarks at the Human Rights Campaign's annual Columbus dinner in Ohio on Saturday night. Sanders ranks second behind the longtime senator for Delaware in polls.

"Let me be as clear as I can be. In my view, we will not defeat Donald Trump unless we bring excitement and energy into the campaign, and unless we give millions of working people and young people a reason to vote and a reason to believe that politics is relevant to their lives," Sanders said. "We cannot go back to the old ways; we have to go forward with a new and progressive agenda. We have got to stand up and make it clear that we believe in a government, and an economy, and an energy system that represents all of us, not just the 1%.

"We have got to make it clear that when the future of the planet is at stake there is no middle ground," he added, repeating the phrase as he outlined his positions on healthcare, criminal justice, and defense spending.

Sanders' riff was an extension of earlier criticism he leveled at Biden after Reuters reported last month that Biden was set to propose a "middle ground" climate change policy in comparison to the more liberal "Green New Deal."

“If we don't commit to fully transforming our energy system away from fossil fuels, we will doom future generations,” Sanders said at the time. “Fighting climate change must be our priority, whether fossil fuel billionaires like it or not."

Source: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/sanders-takes-on-biden-there-is-no-middle-ground

 

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I'll sit back and watch the Democratic Party devour itself while President Trump gets a free kick back to the oval office.

Side note: I'm no fan of Trump.
 

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I'll sit back and watch the Democratic Party devour itself while President Trump gets a free kick back to the oval office.

Side note: I'm no fan of Trump.
I'm no fan of Trump either, but 99% of the Dems running want to continue the failed policies of for profit healthcare and college, regime change wars, etc. Biden in particular is responsible for the 1994 crime bill that led to the mass incarceration of (mostly black) non-violent offenders. He's also supported anti-abortion law, the Iraq War, the Patriot Act, and so on. I'm not one of those people who thinks any Democrat is acceptable against Trump. Policies matter. Most of the Dems who oppose Trump do so for his petulance and vile rhetoric rather than his policies. Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard are the only two Democrats running who aren't working at the behest of the corporations and the military industrial complex.

Biden's the front runner because of his association with Obama. But as with Hillary Clinton, his poll numbers go down the more he talks. It makes sense considering Biden is Hillary 2.0.
 
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I'm no fan of Trump either, but 99% of the Dems running want to continue the failed policies of for profit healthcare and college, regime change wars, etc. Biden in particular is responsible for the 1994 crime bill that led to the mass incarceration of (mostly black) non-violent offenders. He's also supported anti-abortion law, the Iraq War, the Patriot Act, and so on. I'm not one of those people who thinks any Democrat is acceptable against Trump. Policies matter. Most of the Dems who oppose Trump do so for his petulance and vile rhetoric rather than his policies.
Yes, the establishment Democrats share far too many of the Republicans' policies, although they're slightly less draconian about it. And while the women of 2018 are more progressive, they've mostly got that SJW/identitarian crap going on which ruins them (and they're too self-righteously stupid to know it).
Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard are the only two Democrats running who aren't working at the behest of the corporations and the military industrial complex.
And their rhetoric reflects that. Which is why the media are now focusing on polls which skew older (without telling the viewers) to make it appear that Biden is the presumptive candidate/Trump-beater.
Biden's the front runner because of his association with Obama. But as with Hillary Clinton, his poll numbers go down the more he talks. It makes sense considering Biden is Hillary 2.0.
But at least Hillary was legitimately elected in terms of the majority vote. Biden will slide prior to the election in a way Clinton did not. Biden's a goofball and unelectable.
 
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The conventional wisdom is that Biden can beat Trump but in a head to head debate I see him as a deer caught in the headlights.
 

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The conventional wisdom is that Biden can beat Trump but in a head to head debate I see him as a deer caught in the headlights.
That "conventional wisdom" come primarily from the same insiders and strategists that lost to Trump in 2016. IMO, Biden and Trump would be Hillary and Trump all over again.
 
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