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Wouldn't have mattered once JR got back to Dallas though. He should have sent some ranch hands to go break some legs.
Or giving a call to Governor Clinton to handle those Haleyville yokels.
 

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One problem with the ranch war story.
Ray, being a ranch foreman would have been aware of easements and water rights.
Surely he would have included it in the deed.

But then, there would be no ranch war story
 

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KATZMAN was a fool. A hack who had some talent beside him; Phillip Capice, David Paulsen et all, ruined it. THIS did not kill the series, Bobby's return and Pamela's exit did the trick. Plus the defanging of JR and the idiocy of Clayton trying to be more than just a plot character.
 

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KATZMAN was a fool. A hack who had some talent beside him; Phillip Capice, David Paulsen et all, ruined it. THIS did not kill the series, Bobby's return and Pamela's exit did the trick. Plus the defanging of JR and the idiocy of Clayton trying to be more than just a plot character.

Paulsen couldn't counter Katzman determination to use The Dream (Paulsen defends the dream resolution, but he's not foolin' me); Paulsen left in part because he seemed to want to avoid the facetious tone Katzman shifting DALLAS toward... Art Lewis was back for Season 12 -- and no help at all.

And then comes Howard Lakin, another hack whose work Katzman seemed to condone.

I'm not sure what to say about Capice -- the actresses liked him, and the guys didn't; he was apparently high-handed and fired composer Jerrold Immel 73 times (but that might be an exaggeration). Capice being there to counter Katzman (and vice versa) seemed to work.
 
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I was quite shocked I didn't remember how violent the scene is when Tommy beats up April
Yes, it was very hard to watch. I’m going to assume they wanted it looking rough to gain some sympathy for April with the viewers to make her more likable to be paired with Bobby. Of course Tommy got was coming to him the next time he saw Bobby.
 

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That scene wasn't enough to make me like April or accept her with Bobby. They went to far to make her a victim. I would have much preferred for her to stay a vixen and end up with JR. She would have been a much better match for him than Cally.
 
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That scene wasn't enough to make men like April or accept me her with Bobby. They went to far to make her a victim. I would have mu h preferred for her to stay a vixen and end up with JR. She would have been a much better match for him than Cally.
Yes, April made a much better vixen and I would’ve preferred that as well. Her and J.R. together could’ve been interesting. Bobby and April were just okay for me. I was kind of indifferent to them being paired up.
 

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That scene wasn't enough to make men like April or accept me her with Bobby. They went too far to make her a victim. I would have mu h preferred for her to stay a vixen and end up with JR. She would have been a much better match for him than Cally.

I want April to become another Bobby-obsessed stalker (although of a non-homicidal persuasion) who jealously follows him to Paris where she succumbs to a hail of terrorist gunfire alongside Bobby's equally doomed bride, Tracey McKay Lawton.

Enraging Tracey's daddy, Carter, at the Ewings he blames for it. And freeing up a mourning Bobby to romance Afton, dejected and bruised by Cliff's neglect as he pursues Michelle and her slice of Ewing Oil. Which in turn enrages Cliff that yet "another Barnes woman" has been stolen by yet another Ewing man.

The DALLAS circle just goes 'round and 'round.

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Moving on to the scenes in Moscow, I wonder why they couldn't find 2 English speaking actors, as it is clear their voices were dubbed

This season can't end soon enough...
 

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Moving on to the scenes in Moscow, I wonder why they couldn't find 2 English speaking actors, as it is clear their voices were dubbed

This season can't end soon enough...
Never understood all that filming over seas. The name of the show is DALLAS, not the Galavanting Ewings.
 

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Moving on to the scenes in Moscow, I wonder why they couldn't find 2 English speaking actors, as it is clear their voices were dubbed

This season can't end soon enough...

Never understood all that filming over seas. The name of the show is DALLAS, not the Galavanting Ewings.

I found the trips overseas very boring. Nothing seemed exciting about it really. Maybe April in season 14 would disagree.

Larry admitted a few months later that the trip to Europe and Russia "didn't work." Even though it had the conceit of being the first American series in history to film behind The Iron Curtain... And to think of all the budget rubles they spent doing that -- and then they wound up not going to Texas that summer for the first time for their annual location shooting.

I suppose the intention was to freshen up the more-than-decade-old show, but if the stories aren't there, then they just aren't there.

It's funny about DALLAS and Dallas. I guess I can understand why a show that huge might occasionally get restless and feel a need to stray away from home, but, for some weird reason, it isn't usually very successful for DALLAS. (Even the show's trip to Hong Kong in Season 8 was crippled by excessive looping -- way overused that year anyway -- and the fact that the city was so hazy when they visited that the skyline was barely visible during the daytime that Pam's and Sue Ellen's little restaurant scene could have been filmed anywhere, despite the panoramic window through which we could see very little). But DALLAS was an innately Texas-centric show, for some reason. Very inward-looking. Whenever the narrative -- or the camera -- wandered away from the Lone Star State for very long, the audience got itchy for everything to return to Southfork or Elm Street.

I guess that's a compliment to the illusion the series conjured. Leonard Katzman at the time acknowledged that DALLAS had created an effectively fictional Dallas within the real-life city of Dallas.

For the same reason, pop culture references never worked on DALLAS. And the producers seemed to realize it, rarely using them.

The on-location scenes would have better suited their friends over on DYNASTY -- a show which cried out for an on-screen international jet-setty element, but its producer, Aaron Spelling, was infamously cheap and wouldn't spring for his top show to even walk outside of the studio (even though he allowed his LOVE BOAT shlock to film around the world a couple of times a year).

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Did they really film in Paris in 1990? I haven’t seen those episodes in years.

If so, they would have been better off doing some location shooting in Dallas, which was sorely missed during those last two seasons. I agree with Snarky - Dallas was better in Dallas.

One thing I really liked about the reboot is that they didn’t have to skimp on location shooting because the whole thing was shot in Dallas.
 

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Did they really film in Paris in 1990? I haven’t seen those episodes in years.

If so, they would have been better off doing some location shooting in Dallas, which was sorely missed during those last two seasons. I agree with Snarky - Dallas was better in Dallas.

One thing I really liked about the reboot is that they didn’t have to skimp on location shooting because the whole thing was shot in Dallas.

Yes, they went to Paris. To no avail. Except to kill April. Which was good.

The wonderful thing about the 2012 reboot was all the autumnal-wintry shooting in Texas (I've learned some people hated that, however) which you only saw once in the original series in 1978.
 

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I know I have the minority opinion here, but April didn't bother me that much. Of all of the newer characters, she was the least offensive to me. I was kinda sorry they killed her because that meant those others would get more screen time.

When she was new and money-hungry, April was fine. When they turned her whiney in order to shoehorn her in as Mrs. Bobby Ewing was when some of us had a problem with her.
 

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There was a lot worse than April as far as some of those later characters go. Agree with all the comments that she was better as the scheming vixen. April seemed to have good chemistry with most of the male characters on the show; JR, Cliff, Wendell, Nicholas, Wes and even Carter McKay. Ironically she probably had the least amount of chemistry with Bobby in my opinion.
 
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