Trump: "what happened in Sweden last night"

[Emelee]

Yesterday, Donald Trump held a speech in Florida and in it he refers to something terrible regarding refugees that happened in Sweden last night.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/19/trump-refers-non-existent-refugee-incident-sweden-rally/

Hmmm..... I live here. Nothing, absolutely nothing happened here last night. Nothing has happened all week. The biggest news of the week has been "Will Owe Thörnqvist make it to the final in the Swedish Song Contest?" For real! That was the biggest news!!

I can't remember any event happening at all in 2017 that Trump could possibly have refered to.

That man just lies through his teeth and then excuses himself with "that is what he was told".


BTW; Owe Thörnqvist made it to the final

 

[McGarrett]

I saw some the footage he's referring to.

And it is more spin, but evon you should read that he wasn't talking about a terrorist attack.

He was talking about the gangs and violence that came with SOME of the migrants.

A lot of people have seen the footage of this documentary. There's a good lot of migrants that bring their belief systems with them, including how they treat women.

 

[Gabriel Maxwell]

I can't remember any event happening at all in 2017 that Trump could possibly have refered to.

Bowling Green, Atlanta, Sweden... Given their penchant for misusing the term 'fake news' to brand the media reports they don't like, the criminal Trump team sure love tossing out a fresh fake attack each week.

 

[McGarrett]

Trump was not saying that there was a terrorist attack in Sweden.

He was referring to an incident in which police responded to a call in a particular area of the city known as a "no go zone" and were attacked.

"No-go zones" are areas that are highly populated by immigrants who have basically taken over and don't necessarily respect the local norms and laws.

 

[Angela Channing]

Trump was show again to be a liar, even the Swedish government don't know of any incident that his comments could possibly be referring to.

Well done America, you elected a President that has been exposed to the entire world as being dishonest. I hope you're proud of what you did.

 

[Sarah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39023978

This can't be defended. It was just stupidity. The man can't last surely.

 

[Zach]

This guy is unbelievably stupid. The only people who are more stupid are his followers. If he wants to get "the job done", why the hell is he doing a rally in Florida? Because he is a man-child with zero politic knowledge and experience.
I'd be laughing my ass off, if this guy wasn't the f***ing PRESIDENT of the U.S.!

 

[Gabriel Maxwell]

This can't be defended. It was just stupidity. The man can't last surely.

What is happening last night in Sweden = what I saw last night on FOX News. He's that stereotypical old fat guy watching FOX News all the time and yelling at his TV.

 

[Emelee]

I saw some the footage he's referring to.

And it is more spin, but evon you should read that he wasn't talking about a terrorist attack.

He was talking about the gangs and violence that came with SOME of the migrants.

A lot of people have seen the footage of this documentary. There's a good lot of migrants that bring their belief systems with them, including how they treat women.

I live here. Yes, we have gang violence. But no, it's not at a more alarming level than in any other country! That's a pure lie. This year, I think it's one person who has been killed in gang related violence. His name was Achmed and he was 16 years old.

It's the same old story. Gang vs gang. And that's the only criminal act that is increasing. All other crimes are either decreasing or are at the same level.

What has changed recently with gang related violence is where they happen. Before, it was away from the general public. Today, they can occur with innocent bystanders as witnesses.

The real problem is that these crimes are difficult to solve because no one is talking to the police. Gang members seldom do.

The other reason why they are difficult to solve - and Sweden's biggest problem right now - is the lack of police officers & a bad rebuilding of the police organisation. The salaries are too low and the new organisation is way too centered. Instead of letting each district deciding for themselves, it's now Stockholm that decides for everyone. This is the 1 major problem. The organisation change is still not even completed. But it was a bad idea from the start.

Gang related violence is pretty much centered to suburbs with many immigrants, yes. That part is true. But we are talking maybe 5 suburbs in the entire country. Located in Malmö, Gothenburg & Stockholm. These suburbs need more police officers.

So can you blame all this on immigrants? Hell no! First of all, most immigrants turn out good. Second of all, it's society's fault when young boys who have come to Sweden alone, without parents, aren't properly taken care of. They are not given what they need. And what they need is school or work. They need to learn the language and quickly get integrated into society.

The boys who end up in gangs have not been integrated. So naturally, they search for somewhere they can belong. Someone who wants them.


But in no way is Sweden's gang problems worse than in any other country! Least of all America!

 

[Emelee]

Sweden's government has offered Trump & company a lecture on Sweden's immigration.

I think that's very needed. Afterall, we don't want fabricated tales being spread about our country! Let Trump fabricate things about America instead. Keep us out of that mess!

We are known to help refugees. We did it during the 2nd World War. We did it in the 1990s when Yugoslavia broke apart. We did it now as well. And we are still standing strong. And feeling humane on top of that!

Trump need not worry for us.

 

[Sarah]

Sweden is surely very safe. I don't think anyone can talk his way out of this one for him.

 

[Emelee]

Police officers that were interviewed in said documentary aired on Fox News:
"They have twisted everything we said"

Take note of this, @McGarrett

The link: http://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/intervjuade-poliserna-kanner-sig-lurade

Most of you don't speak Swedish, so I will translate.

The 2 Stockholm police officers that were interviewed for this documentary tell media today that they were asked other questions than what the documentary make it out. In no question did they refer to immigrants, so when they answered their questions, it was about gang members in general. They were never informed that the questions they answered were about immigrants!
They are now completely shocked by what they saw in the documentary, because the film makers twisted everything they said.

Some of their quotes from the article above:

"They have cut together what we said, and we were never asked these particular questions"

"We don't stand behind this at all"

"It feels horrible".

And they say that film maker Ami Horowitz is "a mad man".


So much for the truth in that so-called "documentary".

 

[McGarrett]

I live here. Yes, we have gang violence. But no, it's not at a more alarming level than in any other country! That's a pure lie. This year, I think it's one person who has been killed in gang related violence. His name was Achmed and he was 16 years old.

It's the same old story. Gang vs gang. And that's the only criminal act that is increasing. All other crimes are either decreasing or are at the same level.

What has changed recently with gang related violence is where they happen. Before, it was away from the general public. Today, they can occur with innocent bystanders as witnesses.

The real problem is that these crimes are difficult to solve because no one is talking to the police. Gang members seldom do.

The other reason why they are difficult to solve - and Sweden's biggest problem right now - is the lack of police officers & a bad rebuilding of the police organisation. The salaries are too low and the new organisation is way too centered. Instead of letting each district deciding for themselves, it's now Stockholm that decides for everyone. This is the 1 major problem. The organisation change is still not even completed. But it was a bad idea from the start.

Gang related violence is pretty much centered to suburbs with many immigrants, yes. That part is true. But we are talking maybe 5 suburbs in the entire country. Located in Malmö, Gothenburg & Stockholm. These suburbs need more police officers.

So can you blame all this on immigrants? Hell no! First of all, most immigrants turn out good. Second of all, it's society's fault when young boys who have come to Sweden alone, without parents, aren't properly taken care of. They are not given what they need. And what they need is school or work. They need to learn the language and quickly get integrated into society.

The boys who end up in gangs have not been integrated. So naturally, they search for somewhere they can belong. Someone who wants them.


But in no way is Sweden's gang problems worse than in any other country! Least of all America!

Interesting perspective.. Yet the reason for the wall..

Trump never said terrorist attack...

 

[McGarrett]

This guy is unbelievably stupid. The only people who are more stupid are his followers. If he wants to get "the job done", why the hell is he doing a rally in Florida? Because he is a man-child with zero politic knowledge and experience.
I'd be laughing my ass off, if this guy wasn't the f***ing PRESIDENT of the U.S.!

Most liberal Americans come in 2 varieties!

The ones that actually are stupid and ignorant. These think p+ssy hats will actually accomplish something and mean well...

And then there's the ones that promote lies and deceit to keep the first type afraid that conservatives want to take their useless hats!

 

[Emelee]

Interesting perspective.. Yet the reason for the wall..

Trump never said terrorist attack...

Nope, but he did refer to a "documentary" that was built on lies and manipulations.

And this is the news channel that Trump says is NOT fake media. Bullshit!!!!!

While CNN today shows statistics about how safe Sweden is compared to other countries, Fox News continues to spread on the lies. For example, posting a racist police officer's Facebook post, and making it sound like he speaks for all. He doesn't.

So far, the immigration has been mostly successful. There are a couple of refugees that has the attitude that "I don't need to do a thing". And couple that are criminals. But that's just like any other Swedes. Some are lazy, some are criminals. But the vast majority are normal people.

We have refugee teens at the schools I work at. So far, none of them has caused any kind of problems.

The evidence is clear in this case. The documentary Trump saw & Fox reported on is FAKE. Fake, fake, fake.
Please don't pretend that it wasn't. Just admit that this particular documentary was fake, that Fox News reported fake news, and that Trump refered to fake news. Cause that's a fact, it really can't be denied.

 

[McGarrett]

Nope, but he did refer to a "documentary" that was built on lies and manipulations.

And this is the news channel that Trump says is NOT fake media. Bullshit!!!!!

While CNN today shows statistics about how safe Sweden is compared to other countries, Fox News continues to spread on the lies. For example, posting a racist police officer's Facebook post, and making it sound like he speaks for all. He doesn't.

So far, the immigration has been mostly successful. There are a couple of refugees that has the attitude that "I don't need to do a thing". And couple that are criminals. But that's just like any other Swedes. Some are lazy, some are criminals. But the vast majority are normal people.

We have refugee teens at the schools I work at. So far, none of them has caused any kind of problems.

The evidence is clear in this case. The documentary Trump saw & Fox reported on is FAKE. Fake, fake, fake.
Please don't pretend that it wasn't. Just admit that this particular documentary was fake, that Fox News reported fake news, and that Trump refered to fake news. Cause that's a fact, it really can't be denied.

So you are saying that gangs aren't in the urban neighborhoods in the states consisting of illegal aliens??

And they don't terrorize people??

 

[Emelee]

So you are saying that gangs aren't in the urban neighborhoods in the states consisting of illegal aliens??

And they don't terrorize people??

We are talking Sweden here, and we don't have many illegal aliens.

And no one is terrorizing Swedes in Sweden.

Gang members sometimes shoot at each other, but gang members are often made up by legal Swedes.

It's not like innocent bystanders get gunned down.

We are talking Sweden, not America. And with all due respect, you don't know a damn thing about this country, quite obviously. And neither do Trump or Fox News.

Stop lying about Sweden!!!!!!!! Stop making up fake stories, stop manipulating people, stop fabricating things. It's just plain evil.

 

[McGarrett]

We are talking Sweden here, and we don't have many illegal aliens.

And no one is terrorizing Swedes in Sweden.

Gang members sometimes shoot at each other, but gang members are often made up by legal Swedes.

It's not like innocent bystanders get gunned down.

We are talking Sweden, not America. And with all due respect, you don't know a damn thing about this country, quite obviously. And neither do Trump or Fox News.

Stop lying about Sweden!!!!!!!! Stop making up fake stories, stop manipulating people, stop fabricating things. It's just plain evil.

So again the question is.....

Where did the president say "terrorist attack"?

 

[Emelee]

So again the question is.....

Where did the president say "terrorist attack"?

He didn't. Again: he referred to Fox News and a documentary that totally lied - on purpose - about Sweden. And Trump is not stupid. He knows fully well that Fox isn't reporting 100% truth. He knows that other news media aren't lying. He isn't a moron. He is cunning. He chooses what news he likes best, and says that anything else is a lie.

But maybe you think that Trump is a moron for believing that Fox News reported on the truth?

It's either or. Either Trump is stupid for not fact checking anything, or he is deliberately lying.

Cause as a democratic leader, you can't report fake news as the truth. At least you shouldn't. Trump has enough people around him that could inform him with the truth.


And make no mistake about it, said documentary was filled with lies. And Fox News reported about it like it was all true.

 

[Emelee]

OMG, now Russian TV is lying about Sweden too!!!!

A Russian reporter visited Sweden to record a TV clip. And boy did he lie!!!!! False statistics on top of false statistics. He said there were 50 murders last year. The truth is that there were 11. He found a broken car and said it was vandalized - "a common sight in Malmö".

We are under attack by false news reporters this week.

Same agenda, same propaganda. Try to say "this country that welcomed immigrants is falling apart".

The agenda is to attack immigrants.

So damn ugly!!!!!!!