Why did Gary divorce Abby?

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There were several reasons. He found out that she was going behind his back doing business deals. She knew that Val's babies were still alive. She hired Cathy to keep him occupied. He just didn't have the kind of love for her that would have survived the Marriage.
 

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I don't think he knew that Abby had known about the babies when they seperated.

I think he divorced her because when he found out about her involvement in Empire Valley it was the last straw and after he had forgiven her for Appolune, Cathy and Ciji , he could no longer stand her behavior and decided to put an end to the marriage.

In a way, Abby was like a kid who was testing boundries with Gary. She thought it could last forever, but it didn't...
 

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I don't think he knew that Abby had known about the babies when they seperated.

I think he divorced her because when he found out about her involvement in Empire Valley it was the last straw and after he had forgiven her for Appolune, Cathy and Ciji , he could no longer stand her behavior and decided to put an end to the marriage.

In a way, Abby was like a kid who was testing boundries with Gary. She thought it could last forever, but it didn't...
Yes. I can agree. It was just too much..
 

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Gary could not trust Abby any longer. Their marriage was never going last too long, with Abby's scheming behind his back. But that doesn't change the fact that Gary's relationship with Abby and being a stepfather to Olivia and Brian had massively helped Gary as a person. It meant that when he eventually got back with Val and their kids Bobby and Betsy, he was a much better husband and father.
 

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I agree, Gary got to the point he could no longer trust or believe Abby. Basically, Gary was an honest man and I believe he saw Abby as being a very dishonest business person who would do anything she could to get the deal done, very much like his brother J.R., who he absolutely distrusted.

Yes, Abby has similarities to J.R., but also one big difference. Abby sought to build up Gary as a person and make him realize his potential, whereas J.R. took fright at Gary's potential and sought to knock Gary down. Abby probably loved Gary more than any other man, but she always preferred business and money to any man, as she once told Greg.

As long as Gary was well away from Dallas and not living at Southfork, J.R. was happy for Gary to reach his potential. Abby wanted to help Gary realize his potential, and that is what drew Gary to Abby in Season 3. Val's approach to Gary at that time had been very different, seeking to wrap Gary in cotton wool for fear of him going off the rails. As much as Val was the woman for Gary in the long term and his true love, Abby had the correct approach to Gary in those early seasons of Knots Landing, whereas Val didn't.
 
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"I said I loved her. I didn't say I trusted her."
Gary Ewing discussing Abby Cunningham with Laura Avery, Season 5 episode 3: Nowhere To Run

True, and he wanted back with Val at that time, and got her pregnant. It was Laura that effectively scuppered Gary trying to get back with Val, so he married Abby instead. By Season 7, it had gotten to the point where Gary's lack of trust in Abby had gotten so bad that their relationship and marriage couldn't last.
 

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Yes, Abby has similarities to J.R., but also one big difference. Abby sought to build up Gary as a person and make him realize his potential, whereas J.R. took fright at Gary's potential and sought to knock Gary down. Abby probably loved Gary more than any other man, but she always preferred business and money to any man, as she once told Greg.

As long as Gary was well away from Dallas and not living at Southfork, J.R. was happy for Gary to reach his potential. Abby wanted to help Gary realize his potential, and that is what drew Gary to Abby in Season 3. Val's approach to Gary at that time had been very different, seeking to wrap Gary in cotton wool for fear of him going off the rails. As much as Val was the woman for Gary in the long term and his true love, Abby had the correct approach to Gary in those early seasons of Knots Landing, whereas Val didn't.


I liked Gary and Abby together and was disappointed in that it ended.
 

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In one sentence, Gary was sick of being pimped by her. There´s also the love he had for the children that made up for all the years he couldn´t spend with Lucy. Without Olivia and Brian, Abby would´ve been kicked out when she showed her disinterest for the ranch life (season 5). Gary was a drunk but not stupid, and Abby might be good in the sack, but not GREAT. Otherwise he´d have become addicted to her too.
 

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I liked Gary and Abby together and was disappointed in that it ended.

They could have stretched it out longer, perhaps, but the same dynamics were there regardless. Gary was not going to be able to trust Abby and her scheming for much longer. And Gary had come to dislike Greg the turncoat ex-environmentalist and wannabe secret service boss at Empire Valley, who Abby did business with in more ways than one.

In one sentence, Gary was sick of being pimped by her. There´s also the love he had for the children that made up for all the years he couldn´t spend with Lucy. Without Olivia and Brian, Abby would´ve been kicked out when she showed her disinterest for the ranch life (season 5). Gary was a drunk but not stupid, and Abby might be good in the sack, but not GREAT. Otherwise he´d have become addicted to her too.

Gary was addicted to Abby. Not just because of their sex life per se, but more importantly because Abby kept pushing him to greater heights and didn't give him the safety net that Val did. He was addicted to Val when he was feeling insecure, but the first season or two of Knots Landing were too secure for Gary's personal life, to the point of Gary feeling a touch of boredom at times and feeling patronized. Gary could feel that he had certain failings, and hated it. The irony is that Abby built up the potential of Gary that Val could never reach at that time, i.e. facing responsibilities, being a father to young kids, not being mollycoddled at all. It was these factors that made Abby irresistible to Gary in Seasons 3-4 when she made moves on him. Gary had a lot of insecurities at that time, and Val couldn't solve them all. And the problems that Val couldn't solve, Abby certainly could.

When Gary was with Val in the first 3 seasons of Knots Landing, Gary would always be frightened of responsibilities and would be condemned to lead a "boring" life if he he was to stay with Val in their cul-de-sac/KLM job routine at the time. Abby made Gary a better person during their relationship. In many ways, Abby gave Gary the kind of challenges that J.R. used to give him, except that Abby wanted Gary to improve as a person, whereas J.R. wanted to knock Gary down. Still, Val was always the woman for Gary in the long term. Val was the love of his life since he first got to know her as teenagers. But true love on its own is not enough to make a marriage last long-term if a person has serious failings in terms of responsibility and addictions, not to mention a very vindictive older brother who fears Gary's potential and is obsessed with keeping his morale down.

As I said before, it's an irony that Abby's contribution improved Gary as a future husband to Val and father to Bobby and Betsy.
 

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Irony is the stuff great stories are made of. But I highly doubt that the "final outcome" of the 14-year-running "Knots Landing" was decided on Day One. I think their decisions (like creating their own JR) were made out of necessity probably dictated by the network and not the writers. In every Knots-related interview we read "Abby was a JR with skirts who used sex as a weapon." Ok, this is the truth but an overly simplified one. I hate it when Mr. Jacobs and co. use this kind of clichéd definitions to remark how different (and so much better) "Knots" was compared with "Dallas", as if it was really necessary to put one above another.

The stories we had the pleasure to watch in the "Dallas" spin-off were ensemble stories with characters linked mainly by marriage ties, and the fact they all lived next to another (at least, until Abby and Gary got together and moved to the beach house) but not under the same roof, unlike "Dallas". Just this concept and how the business stories made these characters interact with each other, were a much smarter, wiser and endless concept for a new series than "Dallas" ever was. Even as the huge "Dallas" fan I certainly am, I admit this fact as one of the reasons the spin-off outlived its mother series and improved its formula.

But it´s frustrating to realize (as I´m doing right now watching KL for the first time chronologically along with "Dallas") that there was no need to simplify the relationships seen on KL because that´s its beauty: as in life, the cul-de-sac neighbors have their up and downs that have little to do with pre-conceived formulas. One day you can sleep with your neighbor, the next you are fired, and the next, you are diagnosed with unoperable cancer. There is no math here, but some kind of "snobbish" view of the series, even 30 years after its very end, seems to resurface once in awhile. We don´t talk in this forum about the "good" and the "bad" years of KL, as in the other forums, because we love the whole, or maybe because our favorite characters and stars managed to last until the last episode (Laura being the exception...).

So forgive me if I can´t express it in a better way, but I think that´s the right way to talk about a show: as a whole and without extreme criticism. Back to the Gary and Abby topic, I don´t buy the concept of Gary being "addicted" to Abby as I don´t buy either the concept of Val being addicted to Gary (or in reverse). "Knots" (and most soaps) are about emotions and feelings, and IMHO you can´t simplify it by using a cliché (and I´m only referring to the interviews about the show, not about any of us at all). "Good" and "bad" might be applied to the "Dallas" universe (and even so, up to a point, because the production issues eventually dictated the plot direction).

I envision Abby as a rather unsensitive woman who used everybody and everything, and who even left her own daughter pennyless just because she didn´t like her husband! If we are still talking about Abby and her relationship with Gary, is because Donna Mills is a Goddess of Acting and created a masterpiece thanks to a couple of TV idealistic but somewhat pretentious soap writers.

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but not under the same roof, unlike "Dallas". Just this concept and how the business stories made these characters interact with each other, were a much smarter, wiser and endless concept for a new series than "Dallas" ever was
Except that this concept doesn't have that lush and sometimes gothic family-saga element. And I like to watch that too. Very much, actually.

I think Gary divorced Abby because it was time to move on. It's a soap, they always find a reason.
Their relationship was based on excitement (because she was gorgeous and adventurous, and he liked the way she made him feel about himself) and financial potential (because it's more fun to be a Ewing than a Fairgate).
It lasted longer than I thought it would - and perhaps it was one of Knots Landing's great achievements to keep these characters together for such a long time.
 

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I think Gary divorced Abby because it was time to move on. It's a soap, they always find a reason.
Their relationship was based on excitement (because she was gorgeous and adventurous, and he liked the way she made him feel about himself) and financial potential (because it's more fun to be a Ewing than a Fairgate).
It lasted longer than I thought it would - and perhaps it was one of Knots Landing's great achievements to keep these characters together for such a long time.

Gary almost went back to Val in Season 5, having already got her pregnant. Laura bullied him out of it, basically saying that Val was addicted to Gary like Gary was addicted to booze. Yet the look on Val's face when Olivia tells her over the phone that Gary has just married Abby. It's a look of devastation and heartbreak. Still, I'm not sure that Gary had matured enough at that stage to be a better husband to Val than he had been before. He still needed Abby at that time.
 

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Gary almost went back to Val in Season 5, having already got her pregnant. Laura bullied him out of it, basically saying that Val was addicted to Gary like Gary was addicted to booze. Yet the look on Val's face when Olivia tells her over the phone that Gary has just married Abby. It's a look of devastation and heartbreak. Still, I'm not sure that Gary had matured enough at that stage to be a better husband to Val than he had been before. He still needed Abby at that time.

I didnt view Laura as bullying him...from ehat i recall Gary was remarking how easy it was that he and Val could be friends with benefits...and Laura basically tols him if he wasnt serious about getting back together with Val then it was best he married Abby and to stop leading her on.

I think Gary needed Abby...he became a good father, a smart business man...and necame more confident.

I liked Val with Ben because he grounded her..yet at the same time..didnt feel he had to baby her..nor did she feel she had to parent him like she did with Gary. He was a writer and he encouraged her to continue writing...plus he had that beach house by the ocean...and we all know how much she loved the ocean...plus..she got him into jogging and health.while he had a joie de vie vibe
.and they looked like they had fun (whether it was him playing bag pipes in bed..or her and him dueting at a piano bar).
 

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I'm sure there were countless reasons but the 3 that come to mind --

1.) He caught her in one too many lies

2.) She collaborated with Greg to turn Empire Valley into something that Gary hated

3.) She was sleeping with Peter

4.) Only my personal opinion but I feel that on some level he wasn't buying her story that she came to know about Val's twins being stolen as a totally random coinsidence.
 
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