Winds of Vengeance

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Yesterday evening, me and my wife watched the episode "Winds of Vengeance" from Season 1 for the first time. Interestingly, this episode wasn't dubbed for German TV audiences at the time. The German TV bosses at ARD (the TV station) probably thought the episode wouldn't fit into the overall context. However, it's now available in the original version with German subtitles. I found the episode very exciting. Unusual, but interesting.
What do you think of the episode? Is there a page here in the forum where we can discuss the individual episodes?
I'm looking forward to the next episodes.
 
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It's been probably a dozen years since I last watched Winds of Vengeance but I remember is being the most non-Dallas episode of the 357 made. It was made at a time when most of the episodes were stand alone stories, before the weekly cliff-hanger.

I look forward to your opinions of future episodes. I hope you make it to the end of the series which, like Knot Landing, is a long run.
 
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Yes—I also hope we make it to the end. I'm very curious about Ray's development. I kind of like him... And I'm looking forward to the first appearance of Gary and Val.
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Ray is in most of the series, until 1989 season 12 and is in one of the TV movies and TNT Dallas. There is a lot of good Ray stories on the way.

I believe the next season is when Gary and Val appear for the first time .. the David Ackroyd Gary.
 
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Yes We´re going to watch the final episode of Season 1 this evening... And I read Gary will get a storyline of the first 2 episodes of Season 2. I´m very excited... And I´ve seen pictures of Ray splitting some wood in other episodes. Ha. I often do the same in my wood. I´m sure I´ll like him.
 
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Michelle Stevens said:
Winds of Vengeance was good at better establishing the core characters. The humiliation of Sue Ellen, the cowardice of JR before he was the main character. Also I think it shows how Ray and JR were friends at this time. A dark episode, very 1970's, but good.
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I believe Punk Anderson was mentioned for the first time in this episode, years before he actually appeared on the show in the form of Morgan Woodward. (Was his first appearance in the Fort Worth Stockyards with the formidable Pat Powers after JR had been shot?)
 
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It was unseen in many countries, due to censorship. For whatever reason this one (episode 4) aired in France but softer episode 2 (the lesson) and 3 (spy in the house) didn't... So Julie Gray vanished without any explanation for the french audience...
 
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Michelle Stevens said:
the cowardice of JR before he was the main character.
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I’ve always felt that (not sure if the writers ever examined it to this degree) JR’s physical cowardice explained some of his bad traits — he couldn’t be a “man’s man shitkicker” like his beloved Daddy, felt the disapproval, and compensated by being a womanizer and hurting others with dirty dealing — “manly” traits for a “non-manly “ guy.

Bobby, on the other hand, was a big strong brawler like his Daddy, so Jock naturally preferred him. Ray too, to a degree. This is in full display in DOVE HUNT, in particular.

Interestingly, when he had absolutely no other choice it turned out JR could handle himself pretty well physically - besting Cowboy Ray and ex-mafia tough guy Nicholas Pierce - even standing up to BD “Rambo” Calhoun at Traveltown. I’m guessing that until the ‘buffoon years’ fully kicked in, (Haleyville, etc) they couldn’t have their main draw be a Cliff Barnes level wimp. That and “plot armor”, of course.
 
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This is a really well done and haunting episode. One of the best episodes in the series and you can see why the show that stared out as a miniseries became a full fledged TV show. Linda Gray is excellent here and I always feel moved by her acting. It's so sad. Something about that scene makes me feel like I'm being humiliated like I really feel for her. One of the grittiest episodes of the show; there's a tonal shift from the 1970s episodes later to the 1980s episodes which I think was necessary. I don't think you could have a show be that dark all the time but I'd probably show Winds of Vengeance to someone who had never seen Dallas before if I wanted to get them into the show and explain what it was.
 
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It was unseen in many countries, due to censorship. For whatever reason this one (episode 4) aired in France but softer episode 2 (the lesson) and 3 (spy in the house) didn't... So Julie Gray vanished without any explanation for the french audience...
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didn't they air later with the 1986 rerun? I don't remember
 
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