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When he gets back from Paris.Not Ray? He had to "know" every girl in town sooner or later...:danc:
When he gets back from Paris.Not Ray? He had to "know" every girl in town sooner or later...:danc:
Good spot but I’d end with season 7 and Bobby shot and on the floor - very similar to the height of the show’s fame, with who shot JR - that’s if I were writing my ideal continuation say in 2024, 40 years later. I personally wouldn’t exclude anything but that’s as good a spot as any, if I had my way. I’d use the rest, the movies, and TNT footage in bits and pieces to recreate the 40 year history, as well as anything Dallas related on Knots Landing the following year, including Bobby dying. I’d begin my new show in 2024 with a flash back to 2010 and John Ross alone at his father’s grave. I’d then add in Bobby’s grave. Then I’d flash forward to 2024 and:
John Ross Ewing III (45) Jock role, owning 1/2 an expanded Southfork and controlling the company, JRE Industries
Amanda “Amy” Mavis neeAnderon Ewing (39) Miss Ellie role, vary traditional housewife, with her own Punk and Mavis Anderson (grandparents) inheritance, including owning 1/2 of Southfork, including land which came from her grandparents
John “Jay” Ross Ewing III (21) the Bobby role, working the oil fields for Ewing Oil, fresh out of college, a handsome lady’s man
Eleanor “Ellie” Mae Ewing (20) the JR role, except she doesn’t work, she’s more into behind the scenes running of things like her father, spoiled, snobby and sophisticated
Lucas Wade Krebs (39) - the Digger role, Ray and Jenna’s son, mention his sisters Charlie (adopter by Ray, raised with Jenna) and Margret Krebs (raised with Donna), owns his father’s Krebs Ranch, was in love with Amy, hates John Ross for “swindling” him out of a business deal and stealing Amy
Christoper Willard Ewing (43) - the Punk Anderson role, John Ross’s cousin and best friend, large shareholder in JRE, President of the Company, John Ross’s top lieutenant, still trying to be friends with Lucas
Blake Wendell Krebs (39) Cliff Barnes role, married to Lucas, daughter of Jeremy Wendell, President and CEO of the Trident Corporation, the descendant of WestStar, hates all the Ewing’s
Jeremy Wendell Krebs (21) Pamela role, adopted by Lucas (calls him Lucas), from Blake’s first marriage, friends with Jay and Ellie, in love with Jay, in law school, torn between the Ewing Krebs feud
Marilee Stone (20) Sue Ellen role, Jay’s girl friend, Marilee Stone’s granddaughter, the most beautiful woman in Texas, works at at Art Museum
If you were given the chance to make that for television, who would you cast in the major roles? I'd cast Joey King in the Marilee role, and Sabrina Carpenter in the Eleanor role, for reasons unknown.
This would have been just as disastrous as the declining years. What would be the point? Viewers had become accustomed to Dallas being a serial. Was The New Dallas going to become Dallas, She Wrote?The New Dallas
Bring William Smithers into the main cast after Patrick Duffy left, and I think they'd have been less inclined to bring Bobby back and wipe out not only a whole season, but their credibility along with it.
They'd have had the unique situation of JR and Pam both having to learn to work together if they'd have any chance of keeping Westar from either destroying or taking over Ewing Oil. You'd have three main characters, none of whom naturally like either of the other two, in the central conflict. Two of these people are eventually going to join forces against the other. Can JR show Pam that she's much better off trusting him than accepting the financial security of taking Wendell's money? It's a situation where we see if JR and Pam can figure out a way to do what JR and Bobby never did - to complement each other instead of fight each other - to protect the company they both want to be able to leave to their sons.
Agreed. I wouldn't wipe away the later seasons; it's just a shame they aren't better.If we'd have the power to take back the later years then we'd have the power to fix them.
they floated the idea of making the episodes self-contained, and retitling the show The New Dallas.
This would have been just as disastrous as the declining years. What would be the point? Viewers had become accustomed to Dallas being a serial. Was The New Dallas going to become Dallas, She Wrote?
Afton, really? I think Audrey is a megasweet lady but Afton...? Steal me awaaaayyyyy...
Oh, yes, Afton. She should have been brought back permanently and bounced back-and-forth between Cliff and Bobby.
Bobby told April that he'd "grown up" and no longer had that standard. So why wouldn't he for Afton? Besides, I smell potential chemistry.I think Bobby would have thought of Afton, who had been with Cliff as "fouled", like he did with Holly Harwood because she had slept with JR several times.
Can't stand her. Hypocrite of the highest order. If she was that perceptive, she should have picked up on the fact that sleeping with another woman's husband in their marital bed wasn't that intuitive. And then to slate Sue Ellen with the 'Cliff is MY man' line. It's made out that she was practically psychic with her 'abilities to feel' but the only real thing she had any acute sense over was her own love life or sticking her nose in other people's.
Just go away Afton.
She wasn´t right about Clayton, he saw Sue Ellen as "the daughter she never had".
Afton was not a clairvoyant, she was a nasty-minded hillbilly... She wasn´t right about Clayton, he saw Sue Ellen as "the daughter she never had". Then came Afton and got him all confused... Then about Katherine, well, you had to be blind, deaf, stupid and naive to not see her wicked ways... (Pam was one of these things, by the way...). Afton slept with his brother´s wife´s uncle the day they married in his bed, can you go any lower...? Then she sold himself to J.R. so he could control Cliff, and turned to slimeball Vaughn to take a revenge on J.R. when she was dumped! And, after Cliff´s attempted suicide, she said to Sue Ellen "I want him and his MONEY". And who knows what kind of mind tricks she used to get into Rebecca´s testament... (just kidding...). I call that a golddigger (when I want to be classy!)... She could have joined Mandy Winger and started their own call-girl business...
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Can't stand her. Hypocrite of the highest order. If she was that perceptive, she should have picked up on the fact that sleeping with another woman's husband in their marital bed wasn't that intuitive. And then to slate Sue Ellen with the 'Cliff is MY man' line. It's made out that she was practically psychic with her 'abilities to feel' but the only real thing she had any acute sense over was her own love life or sticking her nose in other people's.
Just go away Afton.
Sarah, I know you don't like the women who slept with JR like Afton and Holly, so I'm wondering what did you think about Dusty and Cliff?
For me the later years are almost 100% terrible, I was in legitimate pain trying to get through them the first time, and that’s one of the main reasons I’ll always prefer Knots. KL wasn’t always a work of artistic brilliance and it had its off seasons (8 and 13), but for me, Bobby gets hit by that car in 1985 and it’s a steady decline from there. Ironically, of the season 9-14 package, I would say 9 is the best season, and of course that’s the one they erased. Then I think 10 is worse than 9 and 11 is worse than 10 and so on and so forth. I also think the embarrassing ratings decline speaks to the shows poor quality at that point. Dallas was either #1 or #2 from 1980 to 1985; if it had ended there it would easily be remembered as one of the most successful shows ever, but by 1991 I’m pretty sure the show ranked #63. KL’s Ratings declined but never that badly.