Dallas Character Marilee Stone

[stevew]

Thus might belong in the TNT thread, but I’m looking for more original Dallas info. IF Marilee was JR’s daughter’s mother, when would this birth have taken place? I picture her between John Ross and Calley’s child’s age, the middle child. I can see them working out an agreement to quietly raise this child together as we just didn’t see her very often. I’m wondering what others think. She’s the only significant character I can think about to be this child’s mother. Maybe Holly, but I like Marilee better.

Also, if this is possible, can anyone fill me in on her character in case there’s some I’m forgetting, like did she have children? And what happened to her husband? As I recall her father founded the company StoneHurst and her maiden name was Hurst. Anything else we know about her?

 

[Karin]

We don't know all that much about Marilee Stone from the show. But she did have at least two kids that we never saw because she told Sue Ellen when she was pregnant with John Ross "when I was pregnant with my first". It was in the same episode when they later saw JR together with another woman and Sue Ellen was humiliated. I think it might have been "Love and marriage."

Seth Stone was a member of the cartel and he committed suicide after the Asian Oil wells collapsed. Marilee sued the Ewings for 10 million dollars in damages.

Marilee was together with JR when he was divorced from Sue Ellen. It was around 1981 or 1982. But we saw her frequently on the show around that time so there was not 9 months for her to be pregnant when we didn't see her on screen.

I think a more plausible mother for JR's daughter was his secretary Julie Grey and I would place the child between James and John Ross in age.

 

[Rove]

I don't think Marilee would have been the ideal choice of JR's long lost daughter. If memory serves Cynthia Cidre said the mother is long dead. Given she had Bobby Ewing in TNT Dallas kill off Katherine mid sentence I thought she was the obvious choice but I also like @Karin Schill 's suggestion it was Julie Grey . Could explain why she returned to Dallas. I'd have to go back and watch Julie's return but perhaps she had an ulterior motive in getting close to Jock. Perhaps her motivation was to reveal to Jock she had JR's child.

 

[Monzo]

I can't imagine Cynthia Cidre wasting her precious time going through the history of the original show in search of the perfect mother for this child. Perfect might be Mandy Winger, because viewers already saw her at JR's funeral. Cidre (who obviously enjoys making the wrong decisions) would choose the daughter between the ages of 25 and 30, meaning she was born while the original show was airing, but of course no one ever heard of the mother.

 

[DallasFanForever]

I had totally forgotten that Marilee had at least two children. She sure didn’t seem like the motherly type to me but I guess that doesn’t always mean anything. Like Karin says we never saw Marilee leave for 9 months at a time so it would’ve been difficult for her to be the mother of JR’s child, unless of course she became pregnant towards the end of the show.

I always thought Katherine would’ve made the most sense, if not her then Julie or maybe even Serena.

 

[Monzo]

The only woman who had reason to hide a "love child" from JR is Laurel Ellis. I think Holly might have wanted to punish JR with her rape child, while Laurel might have protected hers until JR had died.

 

[stevew]

I can't imagine Cynthia Cidre wasting her precious time going through the history of the original show in search of the perfect mother for this child. Perfect might be Mandy Winger, because viewers already saw her at JR's funeral. Cidre (who obviously enjoys making the wrong decisions) would choose the daughter between the ages of 25 and 30, meaning she was born while the original show was airing, but of course no one ever heard of the mother.

I actually agree with the age here because I think there would be more interest and drama from a younger sister instead of an older sister. I for one never minded J.R. having secrets not revealed on the original. Makes him more H. L. Hunt to me than we even saw in the original.

My point for Marlilee is I wanted to explore the idea of a mother who was 1) very wealthy and strong willed on her own and 2) who wouldn't necessarily want to raise a child with J.R. as much as on her own and as she didn't seem the motherly type, shipping her children off might not be such a surprise. I'm also not sure I mind all that much her not being gone for 9 months to hide the pregnancy. It seems to me she was unseen for a large bit and really a person can hide a pregnancy up until the last few months, depending on the circumstances. And Marilee appeared to be vein enough to hide it and also very capable of being discrete about it. Anyway just a thought. Most of the other women on the show either wouldn't carry J.R.'s child or were too weak to bother with in my opinion.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

What about Leslie Stewart? Heh...

 

[stevew]

What about Leslie Stewart? Heh...

I barely remember her. Please refresh my memory.

 

[Monzo]

I remember in the first episode of Dallas TNT Christopher and Rebecca/Pamela were making out in the locker room of the tennis (or golf?) club. They were interrupted by a (for viewers) unknown woman who Christopher knew as part of Dallas high society. It would have been great if this woman were Marilee Stone and it would be the perfect introduction to a bigger storyline involving her.

 

[stevew]

I remember in the first episode of Dallas TNT Christopher and Rebecca/Pamela were making out in the locker room of the tennis (or golf?) club. They were interrupted by (for viewers) unknown woman who Christopher knew as part of Dallas high society. It would have been great if this woman were Marilee Stone and it would be the perfect introduction to a bigger storyline involving her.

Exactly what got me thinking about it. Marilee certainly would not have been opposed to such behavior.

 

[Crimson]

I'm a big fan of the character; my favorite of the third tier DALLAS characters, by far. I think she was also the only female character DALLAS had that could match JR, being just as shrewd, greedy and lusty. It's one of the sadder elements of the show's later years for me that she was treated contemptuously. (Of course, JR was treated contemptuously too, so there's that.)

Aside from Karin's point about there not being enough time with Marilee offscreen to have given birth in secret, I find it hard to believe Marilee would have kept a child secret. That doesn't seem her style, as she certainly would have used having JR's child against him in some way.

 

[stevew]

I'm a big fan of the character; my favorite of the third tier DALLAS characters, by far. I think she was also the only female character DALLAS had that could match JR, being just as shrewd, greedy and lusty. It's one of the sadder elements of the show's later years for me that she was treated contemptuously. (Of course, JR was treated contemptuously too, so there's that.)

Aside from Karin's point about there not being enough time with Marilee offscreen to have given birth in secret, I find it hard to believe Marilee would have kept a child secret. That doesn't seem her style, as she certainly would have used having JR's child against him in some way.

I agree with you regarding her character and was also a big fan. I do find it plausible that she could have hid such a pregnancy maybe in the mid eighties (84-86) but my memory is foggy on when we saw her. I don't think she needed all 9 months to be hidden. And she certainly had the means to hide a child from J.R. Would she have used her child against him? I'm not sure I agree - at least not at first when she'd have been more apt to try and hide the child from him, certainly a woman of means to do so. I agree she would have used someone else's child against J.R., but I'm not sure she would have used her own. At least in my opinion of her I don't see her as an opportunist mother but a strong woman in her own right, someone with whom J.R. could come to an arrangement.

 

[Rove]

or maybe even Serena

Another obvious choice. I suspect Serena would have been smart enough to keep a child hidden from plain site as she knew JR's personality better than anyone.

 

[CeeCee72]

Another obvious choice. I suspect Serena would have been smart enough to keep a child hidden from plain site as she knew JR's personality better than anyone.

Except we saw Serena ask JR for help...seems to me she would have used the child to secure financial support.

I also forgot all about Marilee having children, and I agree with whoever said it wasn't her style to keep it a secret and not use it against JR.

To me, the mother would have to be someone who was either wealthy enough to not ever need or want JR's money OR someone who hated him so much or was so scared of him she wouldn't want him near her child.

Katherine fits both categories.

I think Holy would have had an abortion.

Julie Grey fits.

I find Laurel to be the most intriguing choice though.

 

[Sarah]

I can't imagine Cynthia Cidre wasting her precious time going through the history of the original show in search of the perfect mother for this child. Perfect might be Mandy Winger, because viewers already saw her at JR's funeral. Cidre (who obviously enjoys making the wrong decisions) would choose the daughter between the ages of 25 and 30, meaning she was born while the original show was airing, but of course no one ever heard of the mother.

Eh no thanks. Absolutely done with this JR having a daughter stuff. I’m out. Winger shouldn’t have been anywhere near that funeral although Im glad she did show up looking like Elvira.

 

[Rove]

Winger shouldn’t have been anywhere near that funeral although Im glad she did show up looking like Elvira.

Oh come on Sarah. Tell me you didn't get a kick out of seeing the mistress bow down to the Queen.

 

[Rove]

I can't imagine Cynthia Cidre wasting her precious time going through the history of the original show in search of the perfect mother for this child. Perfect might be Mandy Winger, because viewers already saw her at JR's funeral. Cidre (who obviously enjoys making the wrong decisions) would choose the daughter between the ages of 25 and 30, meaning she was born while the original show was airing, but of course no one ever heard of the mother.

Good point. Just like she did with Cliff adopting some kid off the streets somewhere. It was infuriating to watch when she chose to ignore history.

 

[Sarah]

Oh come on Sarah. Tell me you didn't get a kick out of seeing the mistress bow down to the Queen.

Oh of course I did - but she still tried to make it all about herself didn't she? How about kneeling before the Queen and apologising? No, all about her as usual. Stupid vacant bitch. Hope she went straight back to Hell on a stick where she came from.

 

[Karin]

Honestly it would have made more sense to have James mother, Vanessa Beaumont at JR's funeral than Mandy Winger.
But I can see why they went with Mandy, as she was one of JR's most prominent mistresses on the show.
I am not counting Afton, as I see her more as Cliff Barnes' girlfriend than JR's mistess.