Season 11 (12 DVD) Untangling and unravelling a messy season

pete lashmar

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Season 11 is probably the last half decent season of Dallas, but like season 10 it felt muddled and confused and on re-watch needs the use of the fast forward button throughout - for me anyway.

The season starts with the most ridiculous resolution of the season 10 cliffhanger and immediately turns the series into a rom com, which is never was and certainly never should be.

As I'm watching I suddenly hear JR & Bobby planning a weekend away....I know what;s coming...Haleyville & the ranch wars, this is the first time I use the FF button....completely skipping the next 4 episodes completely.

The Hayleyville story just goes on forever and is so infuriating to watch, while the ranch war is just not my cup of tea at all, and never really made any sense to me anyway.

Meanwhile Sue Ellen decides to go into the movie business. On this particular re-watch I suddenly realised that the producers were trying to say goodbye to Linda with her greatest hits - but what happens instead is that we get a Sue Ellen full of woe and remorse, not the fighting Sue Ellen we had the previous 2 seasons, who had a real spark. They turned her into quite a dull character this season, there's no fire in her at all, which is a great shame. So when she does leave at the end of the season it feel like a damp squid, there's no triumph that she's finally walked away from JR.

Now for the new Mrs Ewing...Cally. I have to say I hate the Haleyville scenes so much, but once Cally comes to Dallas I absolutely adore her. The scene when Lucy gives her a make-over are laugh out loud funny and the Oil Baron's Ball scene with Sue Ellen is too. I just found Cally so refreshing in this season.

Other newcomers were Carter McKay and family, none of whom I liked, especially Tommy. None of them were particularly likeable and in this day and age I think we can safely say the Cater McKay was definitely bi polar with his mood swings.

Now for a show that was getting to it's sell by date the fact that they travelled to Europe was fantastic, it was wonderful to see them in new locations, even if it introduced us to the walking robot that was Vanessa. Luckily she only appears briefly in this season.

Ellie, Clayton and Lucy are completely wasted this season, why Lucy was even back beggers belief because she had less to do than ever. Ellie and Clayton are reduced to an amnesia story, which thankfully concludes quickly.

Afton's return forced me to use the FF button again, though thankfully she only sang a couple of times. But I liked her even less in this season, she came across and just cold and self important.

I loved the scene with JR & Bobby in the lift and this is the season that April finally got her man, and I really do like April, even when she was a scheming money grabber, I just find her infectious.

Overall it's definitely the beginning of the end, especially with the knowledge of who comes into the show in season 12 (13 DVD). But there is a lot to love in this season, but unfortunately there's more downs than ups for me.
 

Snarky Oracle!

Telly Talk Supreme
Some people hate this season above all others.

At the very least, April was never believable as Bobby's bride.
 

Rove

Telly Talk Warrior
Season 11 is probably the last half decent season of Dallas, but like season 10 it felt muddled and confused and on re-watch needs the use of the fast forward button throughout - for me anyway.
Well this doesn't bode well if Warner Bros re-release Dallas on DVD or Blur-Ray in the foreseeable future. That said if and when its released I want to watch Dallas from beginning to end. I just want the opportunity to watch it all, good or bad before I grace those stunningly beautiful pearly gates.
 

pete lashmar

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Well this doesn't bode well if Warner Bros re-release Dallas on DVD or Blur-Ray in the foreseeable future. That said if and when its released I want to watch Dallas from beginning to end. I just want the opportunity to watch it all, good or bad before I grace those stunningly beautiful pearly gates.
Oh absolutely....season 14 is a different story entirely though :laugh1:
 

CeeCee72

Telly Talk Star
To mez Dallas went off the rails for good during the Haleyville storyline. To see JR reduced to a poor, helpless man at the mercy of a bunch of bumpkins was painful to watch. Then the fact that he never even attempted to get revenge once he got back to Dallas? Totally out of character.

This whole season was a problem to me. JR a weak, pitiful mess. Sue Ellen goes from a spunky fighter to a nasty, rage filled, scorned woman bent on revenge. The McKays we're ridiculous and annoying.

I didn't enjoy the trip to Europe either. The show was called DALLAS for a reason.
 

Angela Channing

Telly Talk Veteran
I think this was the season Dallas became the JR and Bobby Show and all the other characters were just there to serve the storylines of the "big 2" or were given silly or boring things to do. The lift episode was a prime example of the self-indulgence that the JR and Bobby Show would dish up for viewers.

I never could warm to Cally because of the circumstances she came to be on Southfork. Had JR just fallen in love with her and married her, I think it would be easier to accept her but the fraudulent way she became a Ewing showed JR to be weak and a loser and was part of the long, slow decline of the character and Cally was just a constant reminder of that.

I didn't like the European tour and it just seemed like a jolly for cast members rather than serving a interesting storyline in contrast to when Pam and Sue Ellen when to Hong Kong and the Caribbean.

The McKays were just ghastly. I did however like the addition of Vanessa and James although I think both roles were badly casted.
 

the-lost-son

Telly Talk Well-Known Member
I consider myself as a very devoted Dallas fan enjoying this forum and all this expert knowledge for more than 20 years. I read most Dalas books available, own the DVDs till Pam's exit and regard season 4-6 (DVD 5-7) as the best TV product in history (seriously).

But for the love of god - I would not and I simply could not watch these last seasons ever again. I watched them in a 90s rerun once. It's just very bad. It should have been cancelled years prior and it would have been cancelled in today's TV industry. A shell of its former self.

The only upside of these last years is that it gives proof that Dallas' fans are very loyal, staying till the bitter end. I honestly envy fans who can find joy in these seasons because I can't. It's just painful to watch this show once firing on all cylinders withering away on such a sad note.
 
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Laurie Marr

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Like most long running tv shows the quality of Dallas was patchy throughout. I don’t think I’ve watched a show before, however, where the quality drops like a stone the way it did after ‘Fall of The House of Ewing.’ Thereafter Dallas assumed a spectral quality - we saw the same actors, the familiar locations etc. but , in Hamlet’s phrase, the time was out of joint. The ghost stalking the show was the memory of what it had once been and never would be again. From Dallas to Das Unheimlich in the instant that little red Mercedes combusted.
 

Jock Ewing Fan

Telly Talk Star
Hayleyville was one of the stupidest things in the history of television or any other medium of communication
Fully agree.
I remember reading that one of the concepts for that season was to put JR in situations where his power and influence were
not able to help him. This was an enormously bad idea. I would like to have seen JR retaliate by buying the town and
getting revenge, if they were going in that direction.
Also when Cally came to Southfork, a real life JR would have had her out of there in an instant.
 

Jock Ewing Fan

Telly Talk Star
Like most long running tv shows the quality of Dallas was patchy throughout. I don’t think I’ve watched a show before, however, where the quality drops like a stone the way it did after ‘Fall of The House of Ewing.’ Thereafter Dallas assumed a spectral quality - we saw the same actors, the familiar locations etc. but , in Hamlet’s phrase, the time was out of joint. The ghost stalking the show was the memory of what it had once been and never would be again. From Dallas to Das Unheimlich in the instant that little red Mercedes combusted.
Good observation.
I might be in the minority, but I think the intro of a past love and a son could have worked, but the writing just wasn't up to par
 

pete lashmar

Telly Talk Addict
Good observation.
I might be in the minority, but I think the intro of a past love and a son could have worked, but the writing just wasn't up to par
And the capability of the actors chosen to play them.

The missing son idea would have worked so much better a few years earlier when Sue Ellen was still around. The conflict would have been far better than what we got.
 

Jock Ewing Fan

Telly Talk Star
I consider myself as a very devoted Dallas fan enjoying this forum and all this expert knowledge for more than 20 years. I read most Dalas books available, own the DVDs till Pam's exit and regard season 4-6 (DVD 5-7) as the best TV product in history (seriously).

But for the love of god - I would not and I simply could not watch these last seasons ever again. I watched them in a 90s rerun once. It's just very bad. It should have been cancelled years prior and it would have been cancelled in today's TV industry. A shell of its former self.

The only upside of these last years is that it gives proof that Dallas' fans are very loyal, staying till the bitter end. I honestly envy fans who can find joy in these seasons because I can't. It's just painful to watch this show once firing on all cylinders withering away on such a sad note.
Seasons 12-14 were mediocre at best.

I think I like Conundrum more than most, it might have been a good miniseries (5-6 episodes) with some more material
Just some ideas:
Donna is a major power player in Washington. She hires Bobby in a capacity similar to Jock's use of him
in early Ewing Oil (Booze, Broads, etc.), and a major scandal ensues.
Ray, as an everyman type performs a heroic act and becomes a media star, runs for office and becomes involved with Donna.
Jeremy Wendell as head of Westar, has unlimited power, acquires more and more power, and along with Jason Ewing
plots to bring down President Cliff Barnes, who is a man of integrity without JR to oppose him
Cliff appoints lawyer Gary Ewing as Attorney General, and they battle with Jeremy/Jason
Jack Ewing/April are grifters
Jamie Ewing builds an oil company with a previously unknown Digger Barnes Son
Rebecca Wentworth becomes the most powerful CEO in the Country,
with Katherine as the Heir apparent, and Katherine builds a media empire

Events come to a head, and the absence of JR leads to a catastrophe

And then what does JR decide?
 

pete lashmar

Telly Talk Addict
Well I finished the season today and just for laughs put on the 1st episode of season 12 (13 DVD).

New titles look OK but the theme....WTF did they do to the theme.....dreadful, absolutely dreadful - that was enough, I turned it off.

My re-watch is over, I cannot go beyond season 11 now.
 

Lastkidpicked

Telly Talk Dream Maker
The Hayleyville story just goes on forever and is so infuriating to watch

Hayleyville was one of the stupidest things in the history of television or any other medium of communication

This was another missed opportunity. There could have been some interesting scenes watching J.R. try to make it home from a place where his money and connections back in the big city were of little help. He'd have to get back using his own wits and cleverness.

It could have been interesting, but no. . . They cheated and had J.R. make a collect call back to Ewing Oil, so the storyline just fizzled out.

Welcome to season 11.
 

Lastkidpicked

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Haleyville justice was even more baffling to non-Americans when we first saw it, causing us to look up "unincorporated areas".

@Mustard makes a good point here. Again, so many interesting storylines to explore. But they chose to make all the yokels nothing but dumb stereotypes.

What a waste.
 
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