Season 10

[Snarky Oracle!]

I'm fed up arguing with you, let's just drop it

You want to drop it?

I enjoy creating fan fiction, too.

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

You want to drop it?

I enjoy creating fan fiction, too.

I've contacted the FBI Snarky, you've got at least two weeks to live!

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

I've contacted the FBI Snarky, you've got at least two weeks to live!

I can get a lot done it two weeks (although I probably won't).

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

I can get a lot done it two weeks (although I probably won't).

I've told them to make it look like an accident!

A pity you couldn't have agreed with me! Oh well.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

I've told them to make it look like an accident!

But an obvious "hit" sends a stronger message.

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

But an obvious "hit" sends a stronger message.

Does it!

I really probably should've stayed in the Sanitarium.

As the biological son of Bobby Ewing and Jenna Wade I never had the best of starts.

 

[the-lost-son]

The way to end the Wes Parmalee plot was pretty bizarre and uncharacteristic for the show (or the genre).

After all the stunts the producers pulled the years before - like bringing back Katherine Wentworth in swan song - one should assume that they were capaple of wrapping up this storyline in a "on screen" scene.

There was another rhread a while ago about the moment in the show's production when the long-term planning got lost. Season 10 (DVD9) did not have the same stringent planning like the early years despite many good plots, episodes and scenes.

If you think about the quotes about coming up with the dream solution, the shiw's increasing erratic planning was obvious.
They wrote their annual bible and probanly had this general idea about BD Calhoun and the fall of the house Ewing... but by that time they went more or less with the flow (killing of Jamie, renuite SE/JR).
They didn't even figure sth. out in case VP was leaving (which she did). I assume they did not plan far in advance anymore, Steve Forrest was not available after the BBQ episode to close the plot, they left the door open, maybe to close it or pick it up again (Why else would Clayton threat to kill him?).
Afterwards things kept moving, they did not plan that much in advance anymore, and everything just got forgotten and left alone or they thought about revisting it again and didb't due yo the backlash prior.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

I want a Season 15 (per non-existent DVD count) after Miss Ellie has died, and there's a scene between Ray and Clayton in some Braddock bar where Ray says he was sent some little small-town press clip from an old friend (maybe Canada) which says that "that faker" Wes Parmalee had recently died under the hooves pushing cattle. The time frame of his death is pointedly close to that of Ellie's but this is never overtly pointed out.

And it's never mentioned again.

 

[auhin4]

I liked season 11 better than 10 and I loved season 12 more than either of those.

Donna and Ray breaking up was so painful to watch. Once Ray and Jenna were settled in 11 with Charlie and Brad Pitt, that was fine, but the breakup part was hard to get through.

BD Calhoun was good, I liked the action and saving John Ross was a fun sequence. JR getting in over his head is always exciting. Bobby and JR working together to solve a problem is so much fun.

Wes's storyline was good too. But overall 10 was hard to watch after the dream season. I had grown to like Jack, Jamie, Mark, etc.

11 was great with Clayton/Laurel and Nick/Sue Ellen. 12 is incredible because of Cally, Carter, range war, Tommy, the wedding and sleepover at Southfork, the Eurotrip, drunk Bobby, Tammy (wasn't that her name?), April and Bobby dancing in the hotel hallway.

 

[Chase Gioberti]

Above all we don't get any revelations anymore. Everyone starts to pronounce his/her intentions way before.

This is exactly my complaint in the first four or five episodes.

Every character including reserved Jeremy Wendell telling J.R. the Saudis should be bombed. Gee, could this be foreshadowing? Teenage me saw this coming a mile away. Same with Sue Ellen and Mandy. It’s not sneaky. They club the audience over the head with a sledgehammer to let them know what’s coming.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

All they needed to do was take one single episode to re-introduce Bobby without resorting to the disastrous dream scenario -- and our DALLAS would never have taken the permanent hit that it did.

Sometimes, so much rests on so little.

 

[Barbara Fan]

Steve Forrest was never meant to be Jock and was never going to be Jock! He was contracted to Dallas for half the season then had other work lined up

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Steve Forrest was never meant to be Jock and was never going to be Jock! He was contracted to Dallas for half the season then had other work lined up

Although Forrest claimed he was told he was Jock by the producers -- probably so he'd play it a certain way. The other actors, naturally, were told something else.

 

[Grangehill1]

Nice to see some love for the acting abilities of the late Steve Forrest.

He truly was a lovely actor and his tenure on Dallas as the Ewing patriarch returned from the dead was one of the more personal storylines which rocked the Ewing family to it's core.

For some of my colleagues on here who have pointed out why did they do this storyline and not take it anywhere to a satisfying conclusion there is of course a reason for that which is lost in the midst of time. Quite simply although the intentions for Ben/Wes was for him to actually be the Ewing patriarch, I think ultimately the storyline was teasing it's audience to gouge the reaction to having the Ewing patriarch back. As we now know reaction to the storyline was mixed but was mostly in the negative. Viewers didn't want another actor playing the role other than the late Jim Davis. So although both Ben and Wes were really intended to be Jock after all, the Producers ultimately reneged on making him the Ewing patriarch because of a backlash from some of the show's fans.

I've always thought it was a shame the way the storyline was abruptly brought to a close. Steve could've certainly given the role of Jock Ewing just as much gravitas as Jim Davis did but sadly it wasn't to be. Kudos to both actors for their roles on Dallas.

I'm really looking forward to see Dallas Season Ten all remastered and looking beautiful so I can see the late Steve Forrest giving his all as the Ewing patriarch returned from the dead.

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[Grangehill1]

You keep saying the storyline had negative reviews at the time. This simply isn’t true. The story in the 80s was very successful. Pam’s dream was met with huge negative reaction but the possibility of Wes being Jock was a popular storyline.

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

You keep saying the storyline had negative reviews at the time. This simply isn’t true. The story in the 80s was very successful. Pam’s dream was met with huge negative reaction but the possibility of Wes being Jock was a popular storyline.

Maybe in the UK it was but not in the USA.

 

[Grangehill1]

Maybe in the UK it was but not in the USA.

Again I’d love to know where you’re getting your info from regarding this. Universally the storyline went down well

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

I have always wondered if...
Instead of the Dream season happening in Pam's mind,
What if the events that followed the passing of Jim Davis occurred in Jock's mind, as he lay in a coma.
This could have rebooted all events in Dallas when Steve Forrest was cast, and in a way, may have been plausible

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

I have always wondered if...
Instead of the Dream season happening in Pam's mind,
What if the events that followed the passing of Jim Davis occurred in Jock's mind, as he lay in a coma.
This could have rebooted all events in Dallas when Steve Forrest was cast, and in a way, may have been plausible

Anybody's dream. Everybody's dream. Nobody's dream.

I've said before, perhaps facetiously, that after JR shoots himself/his mirror at the end of "Conundrum", I want to see the screen squiggle into that five-year-old footage of Pam waking up and going to the shower, this time to find Mark Graison's body on the tile floor, quite dead.

No music. Camera pans to, and closes in on the drain, Pam screams "Maaaaaaaaaaark!!"

Fade to black. End of series.

A dream within a dream, within perhaps another dream -- a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma dunked in branch water and bourbon.

 

[Chase Gioberti]

Haven’t watched this since 1987. Three episodes in and it’s shaping up to be a disaster.

It’s like the writers thought the audience got hit on the head during the Dream season.

Everything the writers have the cast members say y is intended to club the audience over the head with a sledgehammer. There’s no shocking reveal because they’re screaming their intentions every week.

in case you hadn’t gotten the message that J.R. Is going to bomb the Saudis with the way everybody is telling him we need to do that, Jeremy Wendell basically says it out loud in episode 3.

Sue Ellen and Mandy - totally out of character, J.R. makes a big deal about some magazine photos at breakfast, in earshot of Sue Ellen. Gee, do you think she might use this to turn J.R. against Mandy?

And why, oh why, doesn’t down and out Jenna just choke slam idiot Pam when Pam shows up on her doorstep in her new slum? Did Pam think they were friends? Did they really need to clear things up? I hate her more each season.

I really, really wish they hadn’t screwed us with the dream season.

At least I don’t hate Jack as much as I did during the dream.

The Dream Season was so much better than Season 10.