Jack Ewing/Dack Rambo

Toni

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There were several gay actors on DALLAS and most of them apparently didn't have any problem -- gay actors have always been pretty common.

But most of those on DALLAS weren't brought in to essentially replace Larry's beloved Patrick. And most of them didn't "spray on their jeans" after stuffing their pants (as earlier acting jobs for Dack Rambo seem to suggest was a later pathology).

I mean, I'm not defending how Dack was supposedly treated. But if I swaggered on to the set of DALLAS as the new just-add-water romantic lead with a kielbasa bursting out of my Levis, I wouldn't expect to last too long before Le Hagman had me removed.
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Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

Telly Talk Champion
Out of morbid curiosity, what does your tangent have to do with Jack Ewing ad written or Dack Rambo overacting in the dream season?
I was talking about the homophobic abuse the actor had to put up with on the set of Dallas.

My point was that society has still a long way to go as regards the treatment of LGBTQ citizens. :(
 

Chase Gioberti

Telly Talk Fan
I was talking about the homophobic abuse the actor had to put up with on the set of Dallas.

My point was that society has still a long way to go as regards the treatment of LGBTQ citizens. :(

Couldn’t that have been a separate thread instead of hijacking one that had nothing to do with the subject you wanted to talk about?
 

Snarky Oracle!

Telly Talk Supreme
Didn't Ken say something about crew making slurs or taking an attitude towards Dack?

Gay actors are not exactly unusual on Hollywood sets, DALLAS included, so maybe Larry said "sic 'im!" and they did because he wanted Dack gone... Kinda like: "you're not my mama!" (if that ever happened).
 

Brian Kinney

Telly Talk Addict
Why? If that could have been a reason behind-the-scenes the writing for his character was neglected to make it easier for the viewers to forget a Ewing who was also married to April Stevens (was he even mentioned after his exit?). I also thought he had potential and the story with Grace was better than with Jenna. But I liked him most in scenes with his sister and ex-wife which had some humour. They shouldn't have re-animated Bobby but keep Jack and let Jenna go because she was the weakest link in their cast at the time.
 

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

Telly Talk Champion
Couldn’t that have been a separate thread instead of hijacking one that had nothing to do with the subject you wanted to talk about?

But it is part of the thread because Dack was apparently bisexual.

There have been rumours that Hagman was responsible for Dack leaving the show because of his sexual orientation.

It has been well documented over the years that Dack did receive homophobic abuse on the set of Dallas from the film crew but nothing substantiated from any of the Dallas cast members.

I wasn't attempting to hijack the thread but remain relevant to the subject matter.

Is it so wrong of me to support my appreciation for Dack because of his sexual orientation as well as his talent as an actor, just because I don't conform to what society expects either? :(
 

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

Telly Talk Champion
I've been having no luck trying to get a signed photo of Dack off eBay.

There's a few from Another World but none I can see from Dallas.

I'll just have to keep looking. :)
 

Toni

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I've been having no luck trying to get a signed photo of Dack off eBay.

There's a few from Another World but none I can see from Dallas.

I'll just have to keep looking. :)

I can give you mine of Daffy DUCK!!

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Jock Ewing Fan

Telly Talk Star
But it is part of the thread because Dack was apparently bisexual.

There have been rumours that Hagman was responsible for Dack leaving the show because of his sexual orientation.

It has been well documented over the years that Dack did receive homophobic abuse on the set of Dallas from the film crew but nothing substantiated from any of the Dallas cast members.

I wasn't attempting to hijack the thread but remain relevant to the subject matter.

Is it so wrong of me to support my appreciation for Dack because of his sexual orientation as well as his talent as an actor, just because I don't conform to what society expects either? :(
I just noticed this.

I think you have every right to describe Dack Rambo's experiences while working on Dallas. If he was treated badly because of who he is,
attention can and should be called by anyone who has info.

I think that you are man of courage and integrity, and you have a right to be proud
 

Jimmy Todd

Telly Talk Mega Star
But it is part of the thread because Dack was apparently bisexual.

There have been rumours that Hagman was responsible for Dack leaving the show because of his sexual orientation.

It has been well documented over the years that Dack did receive homophobic abuse on the set of Dallas from the film crew but nothing substantiated from any of the Dallas cast members.

I wasn't attempting to hijack the thread but remain relevant to the subject matter.

Is it so wrong of me to support my appreciation for Dack because of his sexual orientation as well as his talent as an actor, just because I don't conform to what society expects either? :(
I wonder if Timothy Patrick Murphy experienced any abuse because of his sexuality when working on Dallas.
 

Lastkidpicked

Telly Talk Dream Maker
It does hit a bit differently to watch the series knowing the background on Dack Rambo and Timothy Patrick Murphy. Timing is everything and today this wouldn't cause people to bat an eye, but back then. . .

There is one thing I really like about the character of Jack. He was one of the few people who knew they had the upper hand with J.R. and just played it cool. It was a new dynamic and kind of fun to watch. Here is the dialogue from their meeting:


JACK: Well, Mr. Ewing, I’m glad you could find time to make this meeting. I think you’ll find it time well spent.

J.R.: Well, I certainly hope so. I haven’t got a hell of a lot left.

JACK: First, I’d like to discuss the terms of our agreement.

J.R.: All right, shoot.

Cassie (Anne C. Lucas) approaches with J.R.’s drink.

CASSIE: Here you are, Mr. Ewing.

J.R.: Thank you, thank you, Cassie.

JACK: If I could stop Jason Ewing’s daughter and Digger Barnes’s son from stealing two-thirds of Ewing Oil, I think maybe a fair compensation would be 10 percent of Ewing Oil for myself.

J.R.: Oh, really? Well, I can give you a lot of money, but nobody but a Ewing is ever going to own Ewing Oil.

JACK: Cliff Barnes is not a Ewing. Unless you make a deal with me, Cliff Barnes is going to be sitting in your office.

J.R.: No way, and I’m not going to give you a piece of my company.

JACK: [Chuckles] Mr. Ewing, I’m saving you 66 percent and asking for 10 in return. Now I could ask for 20, 30, it’d still be a good deal for you. I’m just trying to be reasonable. [Sips his drink]

J.R.: And if I say no?

JACK: You lose control of Ewing Oil to Barnes.

J.R.: And you lose too.

JACK: [Chuckles] Not quite. No, I’ll sell my silence to Barnes. Let him destroy the information that proves he has no legal claim on Ewing Oil.

J.R.: Well, I could go to trial and win.

JACK: No, you could go to trial and gamble away your inheritance.

J.R.: Are you telling me that the papers Barnes has are not real?

JACK: Oh, no, they’re very real. But I think I’ve got something better. Look at it this way. If what I’m selling doesn’t hold up in court, you don’t owe me a dime. You can’t lose.

J.R.: Who are you?

JACK: Well, who I am doesn’t really matter. What does matter is whether or not we have a deal. [Reaches inside his jacket pocket, takes out a pin, scribbles on a napkin] Now, here is my number. If I don’t hear from you real soon, Cliff Barnes will hear from me. [Hands J.R. the napkin] See you.


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Toni

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I think that what matters most is the way Mr. Rambo felt through his tenure in the show, and undoubtedly he was feeling very uncomfortable by Larry´s reaction to his "open bisexuality". Larry was friends all his life with people like Joel Grey who, despite he only came out of the closet a few years ago, was almost as gay as Liberace. Besides, I think what probably might have bothered Larry is seeing Dack smooching other men at the Southfork set (only thinking about it I get... you know). Of course, it´s only my guess, but I wouldn´t call Larry a conservative person at all.

Something that´s not mentioned here is that Larry guest-starred in a failed Dack show prior to "Dallas" called "Sword of Justice". I tend to think that some things will never be known to us fans. Who knows if something "happened" at the filming of that episode, and Larry held a grudge against Dack (or in reverse). Again, it´s all guessing and the most important thing is how great both actors played their characters on "Dallas".

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"Well well, Dackie, I thought you brought me to the wet T-shirts night for girls
and not to the Bette Midler impersonators night in your fav gay club!"​
 

Chase Gioberti

Telly Talk Fan
But it is part of the thread because Dack was apparently bisexual.

There have been rumours that Hagman was responsible for Dack leaving the show because of his sexual orientation.

It has been well documented over the years that Dack did receive homophobic abuse on the set of Dallas from the film crew but nothing substantiated from any of the Dallas cast members.

I wasn't attempting to hijack the thread but remain relevant to the subject matter.

Is it so wrong of me to support my appreciation for Dack because of his sexual orientation as well as his talent as an actor, just because I don't conform to what society expects either? :(
It is not part of the thread unless you hijack every other thread to talk about irrelevant aspects of the actor’s private life.

There may be rumors about what you say above. Completely irrelevant to the topic of Dack Rambo ruining season 9.

Why do you insist on proving something no one is even talking about? You may as well be proving the moon is made of green cheese. It has the same relevance as Dack Rambo’s private life.

Nobody said it is wrong for you to support the guy. Just don’t hijack threads to voice your support. Start your own thread to support him.
 

Seaviewer

Telly Talk Warrior
Has anybody ever remarked on how similar Dack's voice is to Dean Jones's (from The Love Bug)?
I'm currently rewatching season 9 (DVD) and I'm reminded that it was something I had thought back then as well.
 
There may be rumors about what you say above. Completely irrelevant to the topic of Dack Rambo ruining season 9.

By that reasoning, almost all posts in this thread are off-topic.

Perhaps how much someone hates an actor, while a valid opinion, is a slightly restrictive starting point for free-flowing discussion. Even more so if any slight divergence is considered hijacking. It could be viewed as a good thing that the conversation is evolving and broadening.
 

Monzo

Telly Talk Star
I never understood why Dack Rambo was included in the opening credits. What I always liked about Dallas was that not everyone made it there (final two seasons excluded), so they must have had big plans for him. Or was he just added because there was a spot left and he fitted well as Dack Rambo because the opening credits were in alphabetical order. I always felt that some of the supporting cast (Morgan Brittany, John Beck, Mary Crosby) weren't included in the opening credits because it put them ahead of the real stars.
 
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Jock Ewing Fan

Telly Talk Star
I think that what matters most is the way Mr. Rambo felt through his tenure in the show, and undoubtedly he was feeling very uncomfortable by Larry´s reaction to his "open bisexuality". Larry was friends all his life with people like Joel Grey who, despite he only came out of the closet a few years ago, was almost as gay as Liberace. Besides, I think what probably might have bothered Larry is seeing Dack smooching other men at the Southfork set (only thinking about it I get... you know). Of course, it´s only my guess, but I wouldn´t call Larry a conservative person at all.

Something that´s not mentioned here is that Larry guest-starred in a failed Dack show prior to "Dallas" called "Sword of Justice". I tend to think that some things will never be known to us fans. Who knows if something "happened" at the filming of that episode, and Larry held a grudge against Dack (or in reverse). Again, it´s all guessing and the most important thing is how great both actors played their characters on "Dallas".

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"Well well, Dackie, I thought you brought me to the wet T-shirts night for girls
and not to the Bette Midler impersonators night in your fav gay cl​

I never understood why Dack Rambo was included in the opening credits. What I always liked about Dallas was that not everyone made it there (final two seasons excluded), so they must have had big plans for him. Or was he just added because there was a spot left and he fitted well as Dack Rambo because the opening credits were in alphabetical order. I always felt that some of the supporting cast (Morgan Brittany, John Beck, Mary Crosby) weren't included in the opening credits because it put them ahead of the real stars.
I wondered about that too. I don't know what the criteria was
 
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