Who Should Have Been Evicted from Southfork

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

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you don’t see it written often, but insiders have long whispered that this was what opened the rift between Barbara and Lorimar that ultimately led to Donna Reed taking over the role

Actually the reason she left is more obscure.

She asked Lorimar to give her a bottle of HP sauce for her Ulster fry for breakfast.

Lorimar Executives refused her request and when they discovered Donna Reed liked Heinz Ketchup they signed her up as the new Miss Ellie. :)
 

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

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I like this idea. This would’ve been much better drama than what we got.


Am I the only one that liked the poodle perm? I thought she looked adorable!

She suited it then I suppose back in the 1980's.

But watching it from the perspective of today it looks a bit jarring and very of it's time.

I much preferred Victoria with long hair and a middle parting, she looked gorgeous like that. :)
 

Jock Ewing Fan

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You see Clayton as being on the same level as Cliff Barnes, Jeremy Wendell, Carter McKay, and Vaughn Leland??
Not the point I was trying to make.

I was trying to say, that to varying degrees, no matter what JR did or did not do, that others do not get a free pass for their actions.
Granted, Clayton wasn't as bad as some, but he sucker punched JR at his wedding (not a word from Miss Ellie about that), tried to keep JR's wife and son away from him,
planned to propose to his son's love interest, didn't tell the Ewings that his sister was a danger, had an "emotional" affair with Laurel,
and somehow wound up with half of Southfork.

Clayton was not virtuous.
 

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

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Not the point I was trying to make.

I was trying to say, that to varying degrees, no matter what JR did or did not do, that others do not get a free pass for their actions.
Granted, Clayton wasn't as bad as some, but he sucker punched JR at his wedding (not a word from Miss Ellie about that), tried to keep JR's wife and son away from him,
planned to propose to his son's love interest, didn't tell the Ewings that his sister was a danger, had an "emotional" affair with Laurel,
and somehow wound up with half of Southfork.

Clayton was not virtuous.

Yeah I didn't like it when he tried to order Jock off of Southfork.

Jock had a right to the ranch, his wife & his sons.

Clayton had a right to sweet feck all! :mad:

wes jock and clayton.jpg
 

lbf522

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I would vote Jamie who came to Southfork uninvited and proceeded to freeload off of them. JR was right to finally kick her off the ranch.

Pamela after she kidnapped John Ross

Yes JR for mortgaging Southfork.

Who invited Clayton to JR's wedding?
 

Jock Ewing Fan

Telly Talk Star
I would vote Jamie who came to Southfork uninvited and proceeded to freeload off of them. JR was right to finally kick her off the ranch.

Pamela after she kidnapped John Ross

Yes JR for mortgaging Southfork.

Who invited Clayton to JR's wedding?
Good Points.

Especially agree that Pam had no right to remove John Ross from Southfork.
JR was right to be angry with her.

Agree with your other points too, although I would add that when JR's gamble worked,
they became billionaires, and no one was complaining.
 

DallasFanForever

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Especially agree that Pam had no right to remove John Ross from Southfork.
JR was right to be angry with her.
I never had a problem with Pam doing this. Was she wrong? Most would certainly say she was but if she felt that strongly that John Ross belonged with his mother and was willing to help her get her son back than that’s a pretty good (and loyal) friend to have if I’m Sue Ellen. Pam’s heart was in the right place here.
 

Taylor Bennett Jr.

Telly Talk Winner
I never had a problem with Pam doing this. Was she wrong? Most would certainly say she was but if she felt that strongly that John Ross belonged with his mother and was willing to help her get her son back than that’s a pretty good (and loyal) friend to have if I’m Sue Ellen. Pam’s heart was in the right place here.
I don't think she was wrong at all. Everyone seems quick to adopt JR's "horrible awful Pam kidnapped John Ross" framing, but the true kidnappers of the early seasons of Dallas were the members of this fearsome criminal gang:

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Chris2

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The Ewings were BIG on kidnapping children. JR - with Jock and Ellie’s consent - kidnapped Lucy. Pam kidnapped John Ross. Ellie tried to kidnap John Ross. JR later kidnapped John Ross and hid him.

Who am I missing?
 

Jock Ewing Fan

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I don't think she was wrong at all. Everyone seems quick to adopt JR's "horrible awful Pam kidnapped John Ross" framing, but the true kidnappers of the early seasons of Dallas were the members of this fearsome criminal gang:

2_13_4.jpg

Actually, Pam gave John Ross to a woman who was unstable at times, and it was not her business. JR would have been perfectly within

his rights in the real world to initiate legal action against Pam, and call Protective Services,
 

Taylor Bennett Jr.

Telly Talk Winner
Actually, Pam gave John Ross to a woman who was unstable at times, and it was not her business. JR would have been perfectly within

his rights in the real world to initiate legal action against Pam, and call Protective Services,
it was the child’s aunt taking him from a father who’d just barely escaped prosecution for conspiring to overthrow a foreign government by bribing an official from the new regime and was (possibly) about to kill his murderous former mistress, to his mother, who was staying with a far more stable family of comparable stature.

Well, they were all crazy and unstable!

I don’t remember offhand, but I don’t think there was any kind of custody agreement at the time. Weren’t Miss Ellie and Jock overseas on their second honeymoon at the time? I guess Teresa and Raoul were taking care of John Ross during the day?

(anyway I was mainly looking for an excuse to post the silly kidnappers from the early self-contained days, who I find endlessly amusing!)
 

lbf522

Telly Talk Well-Known Member
I should amend what I wrote. Yes, JR made the family billionaires and he did move off the ranch for a short while he should have come to Jock first. I stick to what I say about Pamela and Jamie though.
 
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