The day Mommie Dearest beat up Cliff Barnes

Snarky Oracle!

Telly Talk Supreme
In late-October 1968, Joan Crawford offered to step in and temporarily replace her ailing adopted daughter, Christina, in several episodes of the daytime soap opera, SECRET STORM -- despite the fact that Joan was 65 and Christina's character was 28.

Joan was increasingly known for drinking on the job and for sometimes delivering a real slap when a stage slap would suffice.

Such was apparently the case during her brief tenure on SECRET STORM. There was a scene where she was supposed to slap Ken Kercheval (who was doing the soap) and they wrote in a slap. (Did they do this for Joan alone, or was Christina's character physically abusive in the script?). Christina, stunned that her own mother had taken her job, watched from her hospital bed in horror as this humiliating display occurred, and she could easily tell that Joan had delivered one of her trademark true-to-life smacks ("She hit that man so hard...," Christina would later say).

Producer Gloria Monty would later confess that the Joan Crawford appearances are what led to Christina's character being eventually written out of the show.

Has anybody ever seen even a still photo of any of this? Back in the '60s, it was not uncommon practice to wipe videotapes (used in soaps, games shows and variety programs) and just re-use the tapes over and over, with the assumption that "no one will ever want to see them again." And if the shows were 100% live, then they probably weren't even recorded to begin with.


Kercheval with someone who looks like Joan Crawford (but reportedly isn't):
d3c68f724df3f31f0fa518406d31ff5a.jpg
 

Chris2

Telly Talk Dream Maker
A few years ago, I read a post from a crew member who worked on Route 66 when Joan Crawford guest starred. He said Crawford knew her lines cold, was professional and friendly to the crew, and offered everyone soft drinks from the Pepsi truck that followed her around (she had taken her husband‘s place on the Pepsi board after his death).

Nice to know that some people had a good experience with her.
 
Last edited:

Snarky Oracle!

Telly Talk Supreme
A few years ago, I read a post from a crew member who worked on Route 66 when Joan Crawford guest starred. He said Crawford knew her lines cold, was professional and friendly to the crew, and offered everyone soft drinks from the Pepsi truck that followed her around (she had taken her husband‘s place on the Pepsi board after his death).

Nice to know that some people had a good experience with her.

Oh, yes. When Crawford was good, she was very, very good. On ROUTE 66, you were more likely to be abused by Marty Milner, not a happy puppy in the early stages of his career --- apparently, with time he eventually grew up and became tolerable to work with.
 

Jimmy Todd

Telly Talk Mega Star
A few years ago, I read a post from a crew member who worked on Route 66 when Joan Crawford guest starred. He said Crawford knew her lines cold, was professional and friendly to the crew, and offered everyone soft drinks from the Pepsi truck that followed her around (she had taken her husband‘s place on the Pepsi board after his death).

Nice to know that some people had a good experience with her.
Anne Blythe, who co-starred with Joan in Mildred Pierce, only had good things to say about Joan. She said Joan was very gracious and kind to her.
 

Snarky Oracle!

Telly Talk Supreme
Nah, I heard in all of her tv appearances, Crawford was professional, cool. Her appearance on THE LUCY SHOW, was described as horrible.... when the press later asked her what was it like Joan said, "AND they call me a bitch?"

Joan was drinking -- during the day -- by the late-'60s and was reportedly inebriated during rehearsals, so Lucy told her they'd bring in Gloria Swanson. So Joan was more tipsy than professional on THE LUCY SHOW.

Crawford's comment, "..and they call me a bitch!" was apparently side-stage, so that some crew could hear her, regarding Lucy's usual screaming tantrums during blocking sessions.
 

Jimmy Todd

Telly Talk Mega Star
I thought Martha Scott was perfect as Patricia. Someone who seems OK upon first meeting her, yet the more you get to know her, the more screwed up you realize her values are.
Martha Scott was wonderful in that role.
However, if Joan was around at the time, definitely find a role for her.
The drinking she supposedly did on the Lucy set might be a blessing in disguise for her. LH could teach her how to drink and work at the same time.
 

Toni

Maximum Member
Anne Blythe, who co-starred with Joan in Mildred Pierce, only had good things to say about Joan. She said Joan was very gracious and kind to her.

Did she say that before or after the 188 takes of the infamous slap...? :spinning: :spinning: :spinning: :spinning:
 

Toni

Maximum Member
Martha Scott was wonderful in that role.
However, if Joan was around at the time, definitely find a role for her.
The drinking she supposedly did on the Lucy set might be a blessing in disguise for her. LH could teach her how to drink and work at the same time.

I agree about Scott, especially when she was allowed to butt heads with Miss Ellie in the Dream Season.

What about casting la Joan as a more glamorous Aunt Lil? Rumors say that Kate Reid had the same problem as Joan, though she was an excellent, professional actress. NuLil would have cut off the plug to Mickey herself!!

1673211263643.png​
 
Top