Dallas in the 90's

[Ms Southworth]

Amazing and very beautiful scene with Sue Ellen and JR! You wrote both of them so well! And I could just picture the whole scene unfold before my very eyes! :tv:

Without a doubt, I will give your creative talent 10 out of 10 points! :10::10::10:
Also, I'm convinced that the couple's full-time "cheerleaders" will soon follow and that they will agree with me about the full score board! Great job, Karin and Jenny!

I wonder how long Sue Ellen will be able to fight the feelings for JR that are most definitely still there? :thinks: Honestly, I just hope that she won't give in to JR just to get back at Don, for instance when she learns the truth about the movie about to be released in the U.S.!

Please do things in the right order, alright, Sue Ellen? Get the divorce proceedings going ... go to court to "un-wed" Don! And then - when all is said and done - you are free to consider entering into a relationship with JR again, if that's what you really want! I will be praying that he will be able to make you truly happy - also in the long run!

Please update soon! I'm quite anxious to find out what's happening in all the other character's neck of the woods! :wink@

 

[Presea]

Eh, I guess the Sue Ellen/JR stuff is getting a little better. But Sue Ellen just seems so weak with the way that any little thing looks like it could make her go right back to JR without really solving anything between them and going over all of their problems in-depth. And I don't like how easily the sexual attraction seems to be stopping her from working things out rationally, either. It's like you're making it look like she can forget everything bad with just a few trips down memory lane. But Sue Ellen did make a good point about one thing. JR is almost never home in the evening. Now I KNOW that it probably has to be that way for anything to get done at Ewing Oil. (Because god knows Bobby can't do it by himself.) But if JR wants a real marriage again, I think he might want to consider being around more. I remember all too well all of those nighttime office scenes or scenes of him screwing around with other women at various parts of the day and night during the show. All of that time could have been spent with Sue Ellen and John Ross. But now, JR just wants everything to fall into place the way he wants it, and sadly, it looks like he will get it exactly how he wants it with no compromises. Because to me, right now it just looks like Sue Ellen is acting like the weak little season 5 (dvd) version of herself who just let JR rope her back in instead of the strong woman who knew how to beat JR at his own game like she was in the later years. I guess we'll see, though.

So... when are we going to get more Katherine scenes!? I thought this was her episode! Please, do it soon! I want to know what happens, and you are one of the very few writers I've seen who actually knows how to write her character the right way!

 

[Miss Texas 1967]

I haven't read all of the updates since I last commented, but naturally I read the JR/SE one
Is it terrible that I forgot Sue Ellen was still married to Don?
Is it also terrible that despite JR being so awful to Sue Ellen during their marriages I still enjoy them together?
Granted there's no way they should even consider a romantic relationship now while:
A. Sue Ellen is married
B. Neither JR nor Sue Ellen have actually talked about what went to wrong in their marriages
C. They're so wrapped up in physical attraction.

 

[Ms Southworth]

Eh, I guess the Sue Ellen/JR stuff is getting a little better. But Sue Ellen just seems so weak with the way that any little thing looks like it could make her go right back to JR without really solving anything between them and going over all of their problems in-depth. And I don't like how easily the sexual attraction seems to be stopping her from working things out rationally, either. It's like you're making it look like she can forget everything bad with just a few trips down memory lane. But Sue Ellen did make a good point about one thing. JR is almost never home in the evening. Now I KNOW that it probably has to be that way for anything to get done at Ewing Oil. (Because god knows Bobby can't do it by himself.) But if JR wants a real marriage again, I think he might want to consider being around more. I remember all too well all of those nighttime office scenes or scenes of him screwing around with other women at various parts of the day and night during the show. All of that time could have been spent with Sue Ellen and John Ross. But now, JR just wants everything to fall into place the way he wants it, and sadly, it looks like he will get it exactly how he wants it with no compromises. Because to me, right now it just looks like Sue Ellen is acting like the weak little season 5 (dvd) version of herself who just let JR rope her back in instead of the strong woman who knew how to beat JR at his own game like she was in the later years. I guess we'll see, though.

So... when are we going to get more Katherine scenes!? I thought this was her episode! Please, do it soon! I want to know what happens, and you are one of the very few writers I've seen who actually knows how to write her character the right way!

I agree with a lot of what you said, @Presea! If JR or Sue Ellen ever decide to pick up where they left off, they do need to talk things out first ... and it can't just be done in one sitting when you consider the amount of history that they have to go through! They have to be willing to do the "work" before they should even begin to consider hooking up again! A lot of respect and trust issues have to be addressed! And also whether or not they will be exclusive to each other (if you know what I mean)! :cooler:

At the same time, I also think that being sexually attracted to JR doesn't necessarily make Sue Ellen weak! Having a sexual drive is perfectly natural! Sue Ellen will only come across as looking weak, if her social morals don't succeede in containing her sexual desires until an "appropriate" point in time! Does that make sense?

In regarding to season five, I interpreted Sue Ellen's actions pretty much the same way that you seem to. I love the way that you described it: "... ... it just looks like Sue Ellen is acting like the weak little season 5 (dvd) version of herself who just let JR rope her back in instead of the strong woman who knew how to beat JR at his own game like she was in the later years."

"... ... write Katherine the right way"??? Sorry, but I couldn't let this one pass! There is no right or wrong way to write Katherine, IMO! :mo: Maybe what you meant to say was that Karin and Jenny's way of writing Katherine aligns with your own perception of her???

 

[Karin]

Thank you everyone for the feedback.

As some of you might have noticed I've now gotten to the point where I've posted the scene that I originally pulled out and posted first in the one-shot thread, which eventually lead to that this story is being posted right now!

So I guess it's fair to say that the continuation of what you've been waiting for will be posted from this point on...

Ms Southworth, thanks for saying that it was a beautiful JR/SE scene. Then as for how long Sue Ellen will be able to fight her feelings for JR. Well read on and you'll see...
I won't give that away. However what I will say is that Sue Ellen's feelings for JR has nothing to do with Don. She is not looking to get back at Don or anything like that. She simply loved JR first and she married Don to try to forget about him and move on but it didn't work...

I get what you are saying about how Sue Ellen's sexual attraction to JR is not really a sign of weakness as long as she's strong enough to resist him until she is not legally married to someone else. Or at least I think that's the point you were trying to get across. So it makes sense to me.

Presea, you are right that if JR/SE wants their relationship to really work in the future they need to address their problems and what went wrong between them in the first place. Personally I think the scene in episode five where she apologized for shooting him and he apologized for cheating on her was a good starting point.

I'm glad that you think I know how to write Katherine the right way. I take that as a compliment.
Also you'd be pleased to know that the reason JR is working late this evening is because he has a meeting scheduled with Parker Shipping...

Miss Texas 1967, no it's not terrible that you forgot all about Don and that you enjoy JR/SE together. I think most of us do.
You know when I think of Don I think of the scene where he talked Sue Ellen into coming to England with him and pulled out his grey hat. I thought he was such a bore!
Anyway good points about JR/SE and why them getting into a relationship at this point is a bad idea...

Okay so here's another update:


At the Diamond’s hotel was Jenna sitting reading the morning paper and drinking a cup of coffee when Charlie came in through the door to their suite. “Charlie?”

“Mom what are you doing up so early?” Charlie asked. “Surely you haven’t waited up for me now, have you?”

“No of course not,” Jenna laughed. “I just couldn’t sleep any longer. There’s so much to do with the moving today.”

“Oh right was that today?”

“Yeah and don’t forget that you and Randy promised to help.”

“Right, I just need to get some sleep first…”

“You’ve been out partying until now?” Jenna’s eyes widened. “I know you’re an adult and it’s none of my business. But this partying really needs to stop. You’re burning your candle at both ends and…”

“Mom chill, it’s eight in the morning. The clubs close at four. I haven’t partied until now.”

“Oh?” Jenna raised an eyebrow. “So were where you then?”

“I slept at Randy’s. Only we didn’t get much sleep if you know what I mean?”

“I do. You really love him don’t you?”

“Of course I do.”

“So am I wrong to assume that an engagement might be happening soon then?”

“Mom, don’t put pressure on me. I mean just because you rushed into marriage when you were young it doesn’t mean that I have to do the same thing,” Charlie said. “I am only 22 and people get married later these days.”

“Okay, I was just saying that I wouldn’t mind it if Randy did end up being my son in law some day.”

“That’s good to know and I’d love for that to happen, some day,” Charlie smiled. “But for that to happen you need to break the news to Ray first and I have a feeling he’s so not going to like it.”

“You’re right,” Jenna sighed. “He’s not.”

“Oh Mom,” Charlie sighed, “why don’t you just fly up to Washington and talk to him?”

“Charlie we’ve been through this and you know I don’t want to meet Donna.”

“Yeah, yeah, whatever, but you can’t keep avoiding your marriage problems forever…”

“I know. But it’s just complicated,” Jenna sighed.

“It doesn’t have to be, I mean either you love Ray or you don’t…”

“I love him, but I don’t know if I’m in love with him anymore. But he’s the only father Lucas has ever known so…”

“You’re thinking of staying with him for Lucas sake even if he doesn’t make you happy?”

“Maybe, I really don’t know. I need some time to think things over and while I do it’s better to have a rented house than staying at the hotel, ‘cause Ronald drives me nuts.”

“Oh I know what you mean. Randy’s dad sure is annoying,” Charlie sighed. “Anyway we’ll talk more later, I really need to get some sleep now if I’m gonna help you with the move.”

“Okay,” Jenna nodded, as she watched Charlie disappear into her hotel room.

 

[Ms Southworth]

Cute scene ... and yes, I did read it in case you're wondering. Even though the scene included the Wade's, I managed to make it all the way through by "switching" their names to "mother", "daughter" and "boyfriend".

The daughter is what ... 22? (or something like that)? If she wants her mom to stop asking about her whereabouts, she is entirely free to find her own place! Having said that, I think that it was very immature to stay up all night, when you know that you have promised to help your mom move. Does she really want her mom to pay for an extra night in the hotel? Grow up!!!

Sorry, but I have to ask about this line:
“That’s good to know and I’d love for that to happen, some day,” Charlie smiled. “But for that to happen you need to break the news to Ray first and I have a feeling he’s so not going to like it.”

What does a potential future engagement between the Wade girl and the son of the hotel owner have to do with Ray??? I don't get it! He didn't attend the graduation cermony? Why would he be interested in an engagement or a wedding?

Great writing as always, but as you all know, I'd much rather read about the Ewings, the Barnes, and the Krebbs. Please update soon!

 

[Karin]

Thank you for the feedback Ms Southworth.

You know I don't think it's anything strange about staying up all night when you are in your early 20's. I think a lot of people have been through that phase in life. True it was not smart of her to do so when she was going to help her mom with the move but she simply forgot about that.

Then as for the situation with Ray. It was established in a scene in episode one that the reason Ray couldn't go to Charlie's graduation ceremony was because he didn't know that Charlie was living together with Randy. Thing is Ray didn't like Randy and forbid Charlie to see him after he found them in the barn. Jenna and Ray then moved Charlie to a boarding school in Europe. But Charlie didn't like being separated from the boy she loved so she kept in contact with Randy and the two of them then met up in secret. Charlie would tell her parents that she went to visit Marnie and then she spent time with Randy. When Jenna found out about this Charlie was still a teenager but had just moved back home with Jenna and Ray after completing a year of boarding school and since Jenna didn't want her daughter to go back to the boarding school she and Charlie agreed not to tell Ray about this. So Charlie went on seeing Randy and eventually moved in with him in the USA. Jenna was supposed to have broken the news to Ray by now but she doesn't know how to as she's lied to her husband for so long. So well what Charlie means is that her mother must tell Ray that she is dating Randy before Charlie and Randy can get engaged, got it?

Anyway here's tonight's update:

In Dallas, Lucy and Mitch rang the doorbell to Afton’s townhouse. Lucy shifted nervously, as she was not really looking forward to meet Mitch’s sister again. “I hope Becky will like the necklace.”

“I’m sure she will,” Mitch said reassuringly. “But you didn’t have to spend quite so much money on it. She would have settled for something cheaper.”

“Mitch we weren’t gonna argue about money. Besides I got a big commission on the painting my gallery sold the other day, so I just wanted to share my success!” Lucy smiled.

The door opened and Afton smiled, “Mitch welcome!” Afton gave Mitch a hug before she asked, “How’s the arm?”

“Not worse anyway,” Mitch replied.

“Lucky you didn’t get hurt worse.” Then she turned to Lucy and said, “Lucy how nice to see you again.”

“You too,” Lucy gave Afton her best fake smile and it was clear there was a little chill in the air between the two women.

“Come on in,” Afton said before she called. “Becky Uncle Mitch is here!”

“This is a cute house,” Lucy said politely.

“Thank you,” Afton said when Becky came walking in from the kitchen.

“Hey there’s the little lady,” Mitch smiled, as he lifted Becky up in the air. She was heavier than he remembered. “Wow you just keep on growing all the time!”

Becky rolled her eyes before Mitch put her down and she gave him a hug and said, “That’s because you don’t see me that often Uncle Mitch.”

“Sorry!” Mitch tossed her hair before saying, “This is my wife, your Aunt Lucy.”

“Hi Aunt Lucy!” Becky greeted her politely.

“Hi Becky,” Lucy smiled. “I bet you don’t remember me but this is for you.” Lucy handed her a jewelry box.

“Thank you!” Becky smiled. “Mom can I open?” Afton nodded and Becky opened the box to find a necklace formed as an angel with a gold chain to it! The angel had small diamonds on its wings. Becky’s face lit up in surprise! “Oh my god! It beautiful! Mommy look!”

Afton looked at the necklace and said, “Oh that was way too much Lucy.” Afton was clearly not too happy about the expensive gift.

Lucy and Mitch exchanged a look and then Mitch said, “Becky you like it?”

“Yes thank you Uncle Mitch!” Becky said and hugged him again. Then she hugged Lucy and said, “Thank you Aunt Lucy!”

“You’re welcome,” Lucy said glad at least the girl was opening up to her. Maybe the lunch wouldn’t be all too bad after all? Since no matter how much Lucy loved Mitch she had never really liked his sister. But she faked her best smile and said, “So what’s for lunch?”

 

[pd fan]

Great updates Karin, I like thé chapter with Lucy and Mitch and all the others stories of course !!!!!!

 

[Ms Southworth]

Great update from Afton's place! :bravo: Somehow, it was just like I had imagined! :fantastic:

I'm happy for Lucy, because she managed to find a gift for Becky that was really appreciated! :girl: If Lucy and Becky hit it off from now on, maybe this will help Lucy and Afton find each other too? I'll be keeping my fingers crossed! :wink@

@Karin Schill: Thanks so much for taking the time to explain the situation with Charlie, Randy, Jenna, and Ray. I didn't realize that Jenna had lied so much to Ray (or chosen to withhold the truth). Now, I almost can't wait for Ray to find out, so they can both move on with someone else! Yet another showdown to look forward to! Quite frankly, I'd love nothing more than for Ray and Jenna to get a swift divorce, since I really want for Ray and Donna to begin the process of finding their way back into each other's arms! :forgive:

Thanks for posting the screen shots of Marnie! Honestly, I don't remember her,

so she can't have left a memorable impression with me!

Please update real soon!

 

[Ray&Donna]

I find myself curious about the consternation Lucy feels toward Afton. I can't remember them sharing a scene on the original show, but then again in the final year of their marriage, Lucy and Mitch barely interacted!

 

[Ms Southworth]

I find myself curious about the consternation Lucy feels toward Afton. I can't remember them sharing a scene on the original show, but then again in the final year of their marriage, Lucy and Mitch barely interacted!

Honestly, I don't remember if there was any animosity between Lucy and Afton! I guess that I just trusted Karin on that one!

The only thing that I can think of off my head would be, if Lucy ever found out about JR and Afton having sex on her wedding day!

Another thing is that the two ladies didn't have that much in common other than becoming related by marriage! You can't "force" your sibling to enjoy spending a lot of time with the one who captured your heart, right?

 

[Karin]

Thank you for the feedback everyone.

Silvie, I'm glad that you liked the Lucy & Mitch chapter.

Ms Southworth, you are right that Jenna has lied to Ray about Charlie and Randy is not a good thing for their marriage and a show down is unavoidable!
Then as for Afton and Lucy they have never been close. Read explaination below.

Tommie, Lucy and Afton did have a couple of scenes together right in the beginning when Afton was first on the show. Lucy insisted that Afton should be one of her maid of honors at her wedding to Mitch, so she was. Lucy wanted them to get along and took Afton shopping for a new dress. However after the wedding when Afton started sleeping with JR things turned sour between Lucy and Afton. I don't know if Lucy knew that Afton was having an affair with JR or if she just suspected it. But she definitely didn't like that Afton got close to JR and took a job at the club that he fixed for her. So they never got along after that.

Okay so here's tonight's update:


In Houston were Bobby and Pam walking out from a corporative building down town. They had just closed a business deal and were on their way to eat a late lunch. “I think that you handled that very well Mr. Darling was…”

“Reed Bobby, Mr. Reed,” Pam corrected him.

“Oh I must have forgotten that I wasn’t talking about you,” Bobby said flirtingly.

“Oh really?” Pam smiled. “So the oil business makes you think of me now, does it?”

“Well unless you haven’t noticed, everything makes me think of you these days…”

“That’s sweet, I think. Still I don’t think there are any oil companies named after love since love and the oil business just doesn’t mix well.”

“Oh I don’t know about that. My daddy always used to say that sex and oil belonged together. Like it was a part of the three B’s you know?”

“You mean broads?”

“Yep,” Bobby nodded.

“Well since Jock taught you that there’s no wonder why JR behaves the way he does now,” Pam said.

Bobby laughed, “I guess his interpretation of the B’s differs from mine. Since there’s only one broad for me…”

“Bobby it’s been a long time since anyone’s called me a broad.”

“I guess,” Bobby said. “Anyway Mr. Reed did sell us his company ‘Reed Oil’ under the market value today. So I must say that business is going a lot better when you are with me.”

“Well I did work in the oil business for a couple of years…”

“That you did but I was referring to your charm,” Bobby said. “There’s nothing that closes the deal faster than bringing a good looking woman like you to the negotiations.”

“Bobby I’m more than looks.”

“I know that, you’re also well mannered and nice and…”

“Do go on.”

“Very sexy, so what do you say about skipping lunch and heading back to the hotel room…”

“Tempting but I’m hungry.”

“Okay so how about eating at that restaurant over there?”

“That joint?” Pam looked disapproving. “I don’t think so.”

“Why not?”

“Because it has single bar written all over it,” Pam said. “Only playboys cruise such places to pick up babes and I thought you gave up that lifestyle years ago…”

“I did but I might have had a relapse after you left me…”

“I’m sorry to hear that.”

“Well you left me so what was I supposed to do?”

“I guess I never should have left, huh?”

“You really shouldn’t have,” Bobby agreed.

“Anyway, I am back now, so you’d better remember that you’re off the market.”

“I know. You tamed me years ago,” Bobby said jokingly.

“What do you mean by tamed?” Pam asked. “I thought only animals could be tamed…”

“Well aren’t I like a lion putting my mettles on you every morning…”

“Bobby James Ewing, stop it!”

“Lame joke?”

“Horrible joke,” Pam laughed.

“So if it’s that horrible why are you laughing?”

“Oh you always have to win now, don’t you?”

“Not always, just most of the time.”

“Anyway I’m deciding where we’re going to eat and I want a proper restaurant.”

“You mean an expensive restaurant?”

“Can you blame a girl for only wanting the best things in life?”

“All right you’ll win. Let’s go find a posh place instead.”

“Great,” Pam beamed. “Then how about going shopping after lunch?”

“Shopping?”

“Yeah wasn’t this supposed to be a business and pleasure trip?”

“Pam I don’t find shopping that pleasurable.”

“But I do and if you’re nice and carry my bags I’ll reward you for it later…”

“Then again a little shopping’s never hurt anyone,” Bobby smiled. “But first let’s eat. I think I see a nice restaurant over there…”

 

[Miss Texas 1967]

You can't "force" your sibling to enjoy spending a lot of time with the one who captured your heart, right?

Unless you're Sue Ellen, then you can't force them apart

 

[Ms Southworth]

Unless you're Sue Ellen, then you can't force them apart

:forgive: I'm sorry, but I'm afraid that I don't get your point, @Miss Texas 1967 :bag: Sue Ellen is able to force who apart?

When I wrote my comment (that you quoted), I meant that Mitch couldn't "force" Lucy to enjoy hanging out with his sister, Afton! In other words, Lucy and Afton shouldn't be expected to automatically like each other! Get along for Mitch's sake, yes, but otherwise no!

@Karin Schill: I loved your update, and I'll leave a more detailed review later!

 

[Miss Texas 1967]

:forgive: I'm sorry, but I'm afraid that I don't get your point, @Miss Texas 1967 :bag: Sue Ellen is able to force who apart?

When I wrote my comment (that you quoted), I meant that Mitch couldn't "force" Lucy to enjoy hanging out with his sister, Afton! In other words, Lucy and Afton shouldn't be expected to automatically like each other! Get along for Mitch's sake, yes, but otherwise no!

Haha sorry it was a joke, all I meant was that where Mitch couldn't force Lucy and Afton to enjoy hanging out together, Sue Ellen had the opposite problem, she couldn't keep JR and Kristin apart.

 

[Ms Southworth]

Haha sorry it was a joke, all I meant was that where Mitch couldn't force Lucy and Afton to enjoy hanging out together, Sue Ellen had the opposite problem, she couldn't keep JR and Kristin apart.

Oh, it was meant to be a joke, @Miss Texas 1967? :bag:

Did Sue Ellen even want to keep her husband and her sister apart? It didn't seem like she cared at all about their affair! For instance, I remember a scene when Sue Ellen ran into JR and Kristin on the street. And Sue Ellen didn't look bothered at all seeing them together!

 

[Miss Texas 1967]

Oh, it was meant to be a joke, @Miss Texas 1967? :bag:

Did Sue Ellen even want to keep her husband and her sister apart? It didn't seem like she cared at all about their affair! For instance, I remember a scene when Sue Ellen ran into JR and Kristin on the street. And Sue Ellen didn't look bothered at all seeing them together!

I think she was pretty numb at that point in her life, but I don't think she necessarily wanted them together, she gave them a lot of dirty looks when they flirted in the pool and such, and she was certainly pissed off about their dalliance later on when they came back from dropping Kristin off at the airport. Plus she never wanted Kristin in Dallas with JR to begin with, she was very sceptical about things when Kristin suggested staying and JR and Jock started offering things like a job and an apartment.
It really was just a joke lol, I guess not a very good one

 

[Ms Southworth]

I think she was pretty numb at that point in her life, but I don't think she necessarily wanted them together, she gave them a lot of dirty looks when they flirted in the pool and such, and she was certainly pissed off about their dalliance later on when they came back from dropping Kristin off at the airport. Plus she never wanted Kristin in Dallas with JR to begin with, she was very sceptical about things when Kristin suggested staying and JR and Jock started offering things like a job and an apartment.
It really was just a joke lol, I guess not a very good one

"Numb" is a very good way to describe Sue Ellen at that point in time, @Miss Texas 1967! I think that Sue Ellen was all about "keeping up appearances", don't you think? Maybe that's why her reactions towards JR and Kristin were different when the possibility of the family finding out about their affair (for instance, the pool scene) meant a great deal to her? Anyway, I hope that she was hurting deep down. She really did love JR, so I hope that her "numb" behavior was just an act! :wink@

 

[Ms Southworth]

Wonderful and quite cute update! :10::10:. :bravo: :fantastic: :wink@

I was able to picture this scene played out on-screen without much effort. I loved Bobby's boyish charm, and also how Pam tried to play along - at least some of the time! The love they share shined through just about every line in this update, which I really liked.

I laughed and/or smiled a lot during the read: For instance, when reading this: LOL ... " ... love and oil don't mix!" ... LOL ... ... "no wonder JR behaved like he does now!" ... LOL :lolo: ... ... "Bobby, I'm more than looks!" ... LOL ... "Then again a little shopping didn't hurt anyone!" ... ... LOL ...

There were a few things that I didn't feel captured the "personalities" of the two characters! I can't seem to recall Bobby ever calling Pam "Darling"; Pam's reaction to Bobby referring to her as a "broad" was pretty much non-existing (???); Pam asking Bobby to take her to a "proper" restaurant (???).

I'm looking forward to the next update! Don't leave us hanging for too long, please! :wink@

 

[Ms Southworth]

Oh, I forgot to ask if Bobby and Pam have been making use of the fact that they're staying at a spa hotel? Massages, steam bath, sauna, etc.? Any love scenes in the works while they're away from home? And if so, will we be so fortunate to get to "tack along"?