Dallas in the 90's

Karin

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Downstairs Jenna turned off the television as it was time to go to bed. She walked to the front door and made sure it was locked. Then she walked to the backdoor. On her way there she got a strange feeling that someone was watching her. So she opened the backdoor, looking out shortly. As she did a man standing outside the fence behind a tree took up a camera and started photographing her. However Jenna didn’t notice him, as she closed the door and checked the lock to make sure it was locked, before she draw the blinds. The man outside lowered his camera and walked away!
 

Ms Southworth

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Ms Southworth, as for Lucas he asked Jenna's permission before he went to the "Anderson's". She said yes thinking it was another child Lucas had met. If she had known it was a grown man that she didn't know she would not have agreed to let him go into that house. Also when they met this summer the man gave her a bad vibe. So no if she had known it was that man she would not have agreed to it. :(
Sorry, but even if Jenna thought that Lucas was visiting a boy next door, I still think that Jenna (to be the best parent she could be) should have gone with him to say hello to the "boy's" parents! ;) What if the "boy's" parents hadn't been home? Would she let Lucas play at his house still? :eck: I hope not! :(

Bobby and April were married in the episode that was broadcast on April 27th 1990. Then there were two episodes left of the season where we see JR at the insane asylum. The season ends with that James let JR stay in there instead of releasing him. The final season picks up with "April in Paris" which is broadcast on 2 november 1990. It is in that episode April is kidnapped. April is then kidnapped for another two episodes until she is finally killed in the episode that aired on 23rd November, 1990. They actually stopped by England with John Ross and Chris to visit Sue Ellen before they arrived in Paris. Since the left the boys with Sue Ellen while going to Paris. I don't know how long they stayed in England though. So well if you take all this into consideration it's fair to say that Bobby and April were married for a little while before she was killed or?
Alright, I'll buy into them having been married for a month! :D

Luke Nelson owns Nelson Oil which is a member of the cartel. Jennifer Nelson is his wife who had lunch with Miss Ellie to discuss the planning of the Oil Baron's Ball and Jessica Nelson is their daughter.
You know, it would be nice to have a character list put on this thread! There are so many new characters to keep track of! Just an idea!!! :wink@

The reason it takes Rattigan so long to dig up the info is because I got the impression watching the show that he wasn't all that effective! :D I much preferred Harry McSween who was actually used in the first draft of this on some occasions. We had some scenes with Rattigan and some with Harry McSween. But well after having read that the actor who played McSween had died in 1992 we decided to change it to JR just using Rattigan. Also it's less confusing that way.
:idea: (but I still think that Rattigan stinks at his job ... ... I mean, Pam has been in Dallas for most of the summer now, and supposedly, Rattigan still hasn't come up with anything on her! :rolleyes: )
 
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Ms Southworth

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Great scene with Cliff and Bobby outside Scalini's Restaurant! :clap:

I was a bit surprised that Cliff supposedly worries that Pam might leave again! o_O But I absolutely loved how much concern Cliff has for Bobby and Christopher's well-being! :kiss:

I can just imagine Cliff saying this: “So you’re getting married to my sister again?” :yep:

But there is a part of me that has a difficult time imaging Bobby's reply: “Yeah, do you have a problem with that?” :think: It sounds kind of harsh coming from Bobby's mouth! :(

How can you not love this part of the conversation? :wink@
  • “Thanks for your concern Cliff, but I don’t think she’s going anywhere this time!”
  • “Are you sure about that?”
  • “No,” Bobby sighed. “But I still love her.”
Life holds no guarantees! :hat: If you don't take chances, you risk losing out on love! :kiss:

Cliff's closing "statement" was wonderful: “Well then you have my blessing. I just hope everything works out for you this time!” (although I swallowed a couple of times as I had read this. Especially knowing full well that there will be "bumps" in the road ahead for the lovebirds! So maybe Pam will perhaps leave in some way??? :cry: )

I don't have any relevant feedback to the other two short scenes! :bag:

I'm looking forward to the next update on this amazing fanfic! :loveit: Don't leave us hanging for too long, Karin! :wink@
 
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Karin

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Thank you for the feedback Ms Southworth. :)

:lol: about Rattigan not doing his job.
A character list. Well that's an idea. But you do realize that if I were to put one on here it would soon disappear in the middle of the posts until nobody would know which page it was on. Oh well I'll humor you. But make sure to bookmark this post. I guess the new significant characters in this story are:

Rebecca - Bobby & Pam's 7 year old daughter.
Tom Parker - Katherine's husband.
Bruce & Heather Stone - Marilee Stone's son and daughter in law. Owners of Love Oil that are a part of the cartel with Cliff.
Alan Stone - Marilee Stone's husband. He works at Stonehurst Oil with Marilee. They are a member of the cartel.
Luke & Jennifer Nelson - Owners of Nelson Oil that is a member of the cartel.
Jessica Nelson - The 24 year old daughter of Luke & Jennifer.
Ronald Diamond - Randy's dad, who owns an hotel franchise. "The Diamond's Hotels".
Mario Badeau - Afton's fiancé.
Trevor & Lynette Jones - Lucy & Mitch's friends. Trevor and Mitch when to college together.
Martha Marchetta - Charlie's aunt.

I think that's about it. I hope I haven't forgotten anyone...

I'm glad you loved the Bobby & Cliff update. I think Cliff & Bobby grew quite close after Pam left so it makes sense for him to be concerned about Bobby and Chris now when Pam is back.

Also time for tonight's update:


Monday morning at Ewing oil, JR was on the phone with the bank. “I see,” JR nodded with a grim look on his face. “That’s not good news.” JR sighed. “Well thank you for notifying me, good day now,” JR hung up the phone. He got up and walked over towards Bobby’s office where he barged in unannounced.

Bobby looked up from his paperwork and said surprised, “JR, what’s going on?”

“What’s going on is that we’re in deep shit with the bank, thanks to your deal with Guzzler!” JR said in an upset tone of voice.

“What do you mean?”

“We’re out of cash and we won’t get another loan ‘cause we have exceeded our limit. So unless we pay off the Guzzler loan we can’t keep drilling the off shore or develop the fields we’ve just acquired.”

“Damn!” Bobby cursed. “What do we do now?”

“We have to sell something to get some cash loose. So I’m gonna call Marilee Stone and ask her to buy out our investment in the Montana fields.”

“But JR that field has dried up.”

“No not that one, I’ve just signed a new deal with Marilee while you were in Houston. It’s a profitable field, but the terrain is rough so we can’t afford to wait for it to come in now.”

“Well then sell it,” Bobby sighed.

“I will and who knows it might be for the best. I am not sure Marilee can be trusted!”

“Oh?”

“Yeah she was at that movie premiere with Barnes and all. Anyway I want you to look into if we have any other assets that can be sold off. We need cash Bobby and that’s quick,” JR said and Bobby sighed.
 

Presea

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Okay, now I can finally talk about all of this properly.

I really liked how JR and Sue Ellen's conversation went. JR was pretty considerate of Sue Ellen's feelings, and that is good. They should definitely converse like this more often now that Don Dorkwood is pretty much out of the picture.

Cliff buying the Hummer was funny. I also really liked his reaction to Pam's news about the remarriage. I suppose that he is too used to this now to blow up. But this was also important because the scene with him and Bobby later reminded me of their old closeness that happened after Pam left. Cliff's question about them being sure that Bobby knew what he was doing really just seems to be out of genuine concern for Pam, and it is nice that he is able to express that to Bobby.

When JR asked Rattigan about Rebecca's birth information again, I was like "Not again!" at first. But the wonderfully ironic twist to it now is that JR wanted it because he is hoping to find out that she IS Bobby's daughter!

WTH is wrong with Jenna!? She doesn't even know who lives next door and she just lets Lucas go over there! If she had enough sense to actually try to meet her neighbor first, then surely it would raise some red flags that the same guy who already had a random chat with Lucas at a motel a little ways away from Dallas is now their next door neighbor as well. Randy is the only sensible adult here, so I hope that he can explain things to Jenna here, because she seems to be permanently lost in la-la land! I mean, poor Lucas obviously misses the country he was raised in, just found out his daddy is not really his daddy, and isn't even able to see either of them! I don't care about who is stalking her, or Aunt Martha. Jenna needs to start being a better mother to Lucas!

Great work! More Katherine stuff soon, please?
 
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Presea

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Thank you for the feedback Ms Southworth. :)

:lol: about Rattigan not doing his job.
A character list. Well that's an idea. But you do realize that if I were to put one on here it would soon disappear in the middle of the posts until nobody would know which page it was on. Oh well I'll humor you. But make sure to bookmark this post. I guess the new significant characters in this story are:

Rebecca - Bobby & Pam's 7 year old daughter.
Tom Parker - Katherine's husband.
Bruce & Heather Stone - Marilee Stone's son and daughter in law. Owners of Love Oil that are a part of the cartel with Cliff.
Alan Stone - Marilee Stone's husband. He works at Stonehurst Oil with Marilee. They are a member of the cartel.
Luke & Jennifer Nelson - Owners of Nelson Oil that is a member of the cartel.
Jessica Nelson - The 24 year old daughter of Luke & Jennifer.
Ronald Diamond - Randy's dad, who owns an hotel franchise. "The Diamond's Hotels".
Mario Badeau - Afton's fiancé.
Trevor & Lynette Jones - Lucy & Mitch's friends. Trevor and Mitch when to college together.
Martha Marchetta - Charlie's aunt.

I think that's about it. I hope I haven't forgotten anyone...

I'm glad you loved the Bobby & Cliff update. I think Cliff & Bobby grew quite close after Pam left so it makes sense for him to be concerned about Bobby and Chris now when Pam is back.

Also time for tonight's update:


Monday morning at Ewing oil, JR was on the phone with the bank. “I see,” JR nodded with a grim look on his face. “That’s not good news.” JR sighed. “Well thank you for notifying me, good day now,” JR hung up the phone. He got up and walked over towards Bobby’s office where he barged in unannounced.

Bobby looked up from his paperwork and said surprised, “JR, what’s going on?”

“What’s going on is that we’re in deep shit with the bank, thanks to your deal with Guzzler!” JR said in an upset tone of voice.

“What do you mean?”

“We’re out of cash and we won’t get another loan ‘cause we have exceeded our limit. So unless we pay off the Guzzler loan we can’t keep drilling the off shore or develop the fields we’ve just acquired.”

“Damn!” Bobby cursed. “What do we do now?”

“We have to sell something to get some cash loose. So I’m gonna call Marilee Stone and ask her to buy out our investment in the Montana fields.”

“But JR that field has dried up.”

“No not that one, I’ve just signed a new deal with Marilee while you were in Houston. It’s a profitable field, but the terrain is rough so we can’t afford to wait for it to come in now.”

“Well then sell it,” Bobby sighed.

“I will and who knows it might be for the best. I am not sure Marilee can be trusted!”

“Oh?”

“Yeah she was at that movie premiere with Barnes and all. Anyway I want you to look into if we have any other assets that can be sold off. We need cash Bobby and that’s quick,” JR said and Bobby sighed.
You forgot about Wendy.
 

Presea

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@Karin Schill: Thank you so much for taking the time to tell me what you remember of Afton's storyline! :spinning:
Well, the fact that Jenna didn't bother to at least go and say hello to their neighbor before letting her son go next door says a lot, IMO! :( I think that I give my children quite a lot of freedom (according to their respective age), but I've never allowed them to go into someone's house that I don't know and that I've never met (unless they're accompanied by other known and trusted adults)! :gotcha:.

But I do get that it perhaps had to be done this way for the storyline to work here! :wink@


:thank:

The likelihood that Pam was dating Richard during the week or two that Bobby was married to April is quite small! :D
I know! Jenna is sooo stupid! Know for sure who your kids are meeting! (I know you know that, but Jenna obviously doesn't.) Pretty basic rule of thumb.
 

Presea

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Yeah, Lovejoy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovejoy), Ian McShane is the main character and Linda Gray was on two episodes as a guest star/main character of the episode.

As for the picture, close, they are attempting to make a replica velvet bag or something. The very general premise of the show is Lovejoy is an antiques dealer, in the episode Linda's character is one of his customers who was sold fake art by another guy and they team up to right that wrong but giving the guy some of his own back, hence the forgery.
It sounds interesting. I guess that Don was not always boring? Lol.
 

Karin

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Thank you everyone for the feedback. :)

Shan, I'm glad you still think this story is fantastic. :)

Presea, thank you so much for the detailed feedback. :)
I'm glad that you like how JR/SE's conversation went. They do need to talk more often as they have a lot of things to work through.
Yes Cliff is concerned about Pam. But in this situation he is actually even more concerned about Christopher and how he would handle it if Pam would leave them again. But of course Pam leaving Cliff hurt him real badly too so Cliff talking to Bobby about Pam, is also a way for him to reassure himself that Pam will stick around this time.

You are right, JR wants Rebecca to be Bobby's daughter now. That little girl just managed to wrap him around her little finger.

I think Ray leaving Jenna shook her up pretty badly and she is confused about the situation, which is why she is having a hard time to explain it to Lucas. So her way of solving the problem for now is to just stick her head into the sand like a ostrich and hope the problem will go away if she ignore it long enough. Of course that is not gonna work. ;)
But yeah I agree she should really keep better track of who her son's new friend is.

You forgot about Wendy.

Actually no, I left her out deliberately since we haven't met her yet and if I wrote something about her age and such it might be a bit spoilerish... ;)
There will definitely be more Katherine stuff coming up in this story but not right now as her plot is sort of on the backburner right now...

Okay so here's tonight's update:


Wednesday morning at Southfork, Sue Ellen was standing at the bottom of the stairs. She was on the phone with her divorce attorney, an afro-American woman named Denise Randall who said, “Yes I went ahead and filed the petition for a divorce yesterday like you asked me to. The papers should be served any minute now.”

“Oh so does that mean I can’t change my mind?” Sue Ellen asked.

“You’re not having second thoughts about this, are you?” Denise countered her question with a question, as she didn’t like the sound of this. Because Sue Ellen Ewing Lockwood was a wealthy woman and not a client one would want to lose.

“Not really, I was just wondering in case I would change my mind…”

“Well nothing’s ever final until your marriage has been dissolved in court. But after the papers have been served the process is set in motion…”

“I see,” Sue Ellen nodded. “So how long do you think it’ll be before this is finalized?”

“Well since you’ve been married less than five years and there are no children involved, I’d say it should go pretty quick. If we can get a court date it ought to be over in about two months.”

“Okay,” Sue Ellen nodded.

“Of course if your husband contests the divorce it will take a lot longer. So I strongly recommend that we’ll book a meeting where you go through the property settlement prior to the actual court date.”

Sue Ellen sighed, “Do we have to?”

“No but if we don’t things might get hold up in court. Then again I don’t see what the problem is, you did say that your husband had agreed to the divorce?”

“Yes,” Sue Ellen nodded. “But right now I don’t really know how to get hold of him…”

“I see, so did you have a pre-nuptial agreement?”

“Yeah,” Sue Ellen nodded.

“Well that should make things easier. I guess what it really comes down to is dividing your joint possessions that were acquired during your marriage.”

“I guess,” Sue Ellen replied.

“But yeah in order to get that done you really do need to have a meeting with your husband. Either you can meet him on your own or I and his lawyer can join you for the meeting. It’s either way you prefer.”

“Thank you, I know you mean well and I’m sure you will do a very good job with my case. It’s just that I only decided to file for divorce two days ago so it does feel a bit premature to work through the details if you understand what I mean?”

“Sure do, but you did say that you wanted a quick divorce.”

“I did, it’s all just a bit much right now!”

“I understand, so how about if I’ll contact his lawyer and call you back again next week?”

“That sounds good.”

“Good then I’ll talk to you next week, bye.”

“Okay, bye,” Sue Ellen hung up the phone. She then walked into the living room where the table with the drinks caught her eye. She hesitated for a moment before she walked up towards the table and poured herself a drink. Then she stood there looking at the glass of vodka for a long time while she was battling with her inner demons.
 

Mrs Bobby James Ewing

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Great updates Karin.:) I am so glad that the family dinner between Bobby, Pam, Christopher, Rebecca, Cliff, Afton, and Becky went well and that no one drew blood. :)I feel sorry for Jenna in your because little Lucas is so confused about his identity now that he knows that Bobby is his real father and not Ray so I can understand why Jenna let Lucas visit their neighbor without meeting him first which was the wrong thing to do.:( I hope Sue Ellen doesn't start to drink again now that she in the process of getting a divorce from Don Lockwood because he is so not worth it.:(
 
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Ms Southworth

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Thank you for the feedback Ms Southworth. :)
:yw: ... ... and I apologize for being a couple of days behind in my reviews! I've been busy building a castle in the garden for my family's newest members: four rabbits!!! :) Is my 7 year old daughter thrilled??? :think: Take Rebecca's girly enthusiam and multiply it by at least 10!!! :giggle:

:lol: about Rattigan not doing his job.
It's good to know that I'm able to make you laugh! :wink@

A character list. Well that's an idea. But you do realize that if I were to put one on here it would soon disappear in the middle of the posts until nobody would know which page it was on. Oh well I'll humor you. But make sure to bookmark this post. I guess the new significant characters in this story are:

Rebecca - Bobby & Pam's 7 year old daughter.
Tom Parker - Katherine's husband.
Bruce & Heather Stone - Marilee Stone's son and daughter in law. Owners of Love Oil that are a part of the cartel with Cliff.
Alan Stone - Marilee Stone's husband. He works at Stonehurst Oil with Marilee. They are a member of the cartel.
Luke & Jennifer Nelson - Owners of Nelson Oil that is a member of the cartel.
Jessica Nelson - The 24 year old daughter of Luke & Jennifer.
Ronald Diamond - Randy's dad, who owns an hotel franchise. "The Diamond's Hotels".
Mario Badeau - Afton's fiancé.
Trevor & Lynette Jones - Lucy & Mitch's friends. Trevor and Mitch when to college together.
Martha Marchetta - Charlie's aunt.

I think that's about it. I hope I haven't forgotten anyone...
Thanks a million! :best:

I guess that Kurt should also be included, or? :think: Have we seen the last of Melissa? :think:

Perhaps you could include a character list at the beginning (or the end) of each episode? Then it wouldn't get "lost" on this thread! Anyway, it could just be me who is having a hard time remembering all the new characters! ;)
 

Ms Southworth

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It's been way too long since we've had an update from Ewing Oil, so I was especially thrilled! :fantastic:

Very typical for JR to barge in without knocking first! :rolleyes: But I love it, since it's so easy to imagine LH doing it on-screen! :giggle:

I love JR's choice of words: “What’s going on is that we’re in deep shit with the bank, thanks to your deal with Guzzler!” :lolo: However, I have a hard time believing how one little bad deal could give Ewing Oil cashflow problems! :( It's unfair of JR to lay all the blame for the company's money issues on Bobby! :think: I bet that JR is a good spender too! ;)

I hope that there'll be many more scenes from Ewing Oil! :dance: "Dallas" just wasn't "Dallas" without all the business stuff in downtown Dallas! :cooler:

Keep up the great work! :best:
 

Ms Southworth

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Oh no, Sue Ellen :frustration: Please don't have second thoughts about getting the divorce proceedings going! :thinks: What could possibly make you reconsider? :confuse: Don is no good for you!!! Why can't you get that? :think:

Excellent written scene, BTW! :dance: I'm just not happy that Sue Ellen seems a bit indecisive about whether or not to end her marriage to Don! :(

"Do we have to?" Sue Ellen!!! Now, that's kind of a silly question, don't you think? You do want a divorce, or? :thinks:

It'll be interesting to see, if Don is going to contest the divorce! :think: After all, he's known to be untrustworthy! :hair:

I love the ending of the scene: "She then walked into the living room where the table with the drinks caught her eye. She hesitated for a moment before she walked up towards the table and poured herself a drink. Then she stood there looking at the glass of vodka for a long time while she was battling with her inner demons."

Honestly, I'm praying for Sue Ellen to pull herself together! :clap: If not for her own sake, then at least for her son's! :clap:

Please update soon! :best:
 

Karin

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Thank you everyone for the feedback. It's much appreciated as always. :)

Thank you Shan. :)

Honkytonkangel,
oh yeah if Sue Ellen were to fall back into drinking it would be a very bad thing for both herself and her family as it always brought out the worst in her. Yet she is an alcoholic so it's realistic that she has moments of weakness where her resolve to stay sober is tested.

Sanda,
I'm glad you feel sorry for Jenna. Oh and I agree that Don's not worth it. :lol:

Ms Southworth, congratulations on your new family members. Getting a pet is an exciting event in a child's life. I was 8 when I got my first pet, which was a rabbit. So I think I understand your daughter's enthusiasm! :spinning:

I guess that Kurt should also be included, or? :think: Have we seen the last of Melissa? :think:

Good questions, I don't think I can answer those since it would be spoilerish. But I am glad that you asked about Melissa, since I suppose that meant that you found her likable and/or a good love interest for John Ross. ;)

I agree that the business scenes at the office, scenes out on the ranch, love scenes, big family scenes, heart to hearts between different family members and couples made Dallas into what it was. It wouldn't be the same show if you took away one of those components. Oh and a lot of it's humor came from the characters and knowing their relationships with each other. :tv:

Then as for Sue Ellen, I think it's only natural for her to second guess her decision to divorce Don considering that it's a life-changing decision. So she needs to be sure it's really the right thing for her. Anyway the next scene might shed some more light on why Sue Ellen is feeling apprehensive about her divorce...

Anyway I've left you hanging long enough on this mini cliffhanger so here's tonight's update:

I want to drink. Sue Ellen lifted the glass, so that it was close enough for her to smell the liquor. She felt like she needed that drink to steady her nerves. Her marriage was over and she longed for the oblivion that only the drink could offer her. No you need to be strong and fight this urge. She reminded herself, as she put the glass down. But she wouldn’t let go of it completely as it looked so tempting. She picked it up again just when a voice called out for her, “Sue Ellen!”

It startled her and she spun around only to come face to face with, “Pam!” Sue Ellen tried to hide the glass behind her back.

“Are you alright?”

“Sure, I’m just fine!” Sue Ellen lied.

“So is that why you’ve started drinking again?” Pam asked her in a concerned voice.

Sue Ellen could feel her cheeks get flushed as she was so embarrassed to have been caught with the drink. “Oh you mean this?” Sue Ellen showed her the glass. “It’s nothing. I was just getting a drink for Miss Ellie…” Sue Ellen gave Pam the drink. “Here you can have it!”

Pam smelled it and made a face, “Nice try Sue Ellen, but Miss Ellie doesn’t drink vodka!”

“Alright, I admit it. I poured that drink for me. But I didn’t drink it, I swear.”

“I believe you!”

“Good,” Sue Ellen said before she hurried to change the subject. “So was it today you were going to the doctors?”

“Yes,” Pam nodded before she went on. “But Sue Ellen, you don’t have to pretend. I can see that something’s wrong.”

“You’re right. It’s Don and JR and…” Sue Ellen’s bottom lip quivered a little, as she went on, “I’m just so confused!”

“You wanna talk about it?” Pam asked. “Because I’ve got some time before I need to be at the doctors.”

“Thanks Pam, I appreciate that,” Sue Ellen said.

“Good, then why don’t we go out in the kitchen and talk about it over a cup of coffee?” Pam suggested. Seeing Sue Ellen hesitate she added. “I’ve just made some.”

“Alright,” Sue Ellen agreed. Pam and Sue Ellen then walked out to the kitchen where Pam poured the liquor down the drain and poured Sue Ellen and herself a cup of coffee. They then sat down by the kitchen table.

“So now why don’t you tell me about what’s bothering you?”

“It’s mostly Don. I’m not sure if filing for divorce was the right thing to do.”

“I know what you mean. It’s really hard to get divorced. I remember when I divorced Bobby, I cried so much, but I still did what I thought was best for him. It wasn’t easy and yet I went through it twice,” Pam said.

“Just like I divorced JR twice,” Sue Ellen said sadly. “Even though it was different for me, because when I divorced JR the second time I hated him for all the pain he’d cost me and I just wanted revenge. To leave JR that time was easier than the first.”

“Yeah I imagine it’s easier to divorce someone if you don’t love them anymore,” Pam said.

Sue Ellen flinched from the words, since she knew that was not the whole truth. She may have hated JR when she divorced him but a part of her had always loved him too. A painful expression graced her face as she said, “Yeah I suppose so…”

Pam didn’t seem to notice her pain though, as she just went on talking about her, “As crazy as it was, I still loved Bobby when I divorced him and yet I went through it twice. Looking back on our second divorce now I don’t know what I was thinking. I guess I just loved Bobby so much and wanted to have his child even if it would cost me my marriage.”

“You’re right, it doesn’t make much sense, but then again I guess love never does!”

“Sometimes it does,” Pam said. “And sometimes it hurts like hell. Like I thought I was going to die when Bobby was going to marry Jenna. Then when he didn’t, I was so relieved. But at the same time I felt so sorry for Bobby.”

“Yeah if you really love someone you hurt when they are hurting,” Sue Ellen agreed.

“Definitely, and you hurt when you can’t be with them and they are happy with someone else too…”

“I know that feeling, like when JR married Cally that was really tough for me …” Sue Ellen confessed.

Pam looked confused, “Who?”

“His second wife,” Sue Ellen filled Pam in. “She was a sweet young thing who looked like she was about 12!”

“JR had a child bride?”

“Well she was in her 20s. It was just that she was so naïve that she was almost childlike…”

“Then I can’t see what she was doing with someone like JR.”

“Neither can I…but I guess love is blind.” Sue Ellen sighed. “John Ross really liked her, Miss Ellie, Lucy and April did too…” Pam made a face and Sue Ellen picked up on it. “What is it?”

“It’s nothing…I just came to think of how painful it was to hear that Bobby had married April…”

“I can understand that. But that marriage didn’t last long,” Sue Ellen said.

“I know what happened to April is really horrible. I felt so sad for Bobby and Christopher when I heard about it…”

“We all did.”

“There’s just one thing I don’t understand…”

“What’s that?”

“Why did he marry April?”

“What do you mean?” Sue Ellen frowned.

“I just mean that when I left him I was almost certain that he’d marry Jenna…”

“Why did you think that?”

“Because she was his first love and they did have a child together…”

“Well Jenna might have been his first love, but you must know that you are the love of his life. I mean after you left him he had a hard time to get over you. He didn’t have any serious relationships until he got involved with April and as for Jenna. You do know that she married Ray, don’t you?”

“Yeah,” Pam nodded. “It’s kind of strange how we ended up, I mean before I married Bobby Ray and I was pretty serious and so was Jenna and Bobby before we married…”

“I know, I guess there must be something special about these Ewing men…” Sue Ellen said before adding jokingly. “I mean why else would we marry them twice?”

Pam laughed, “Don’t forget that it will be three times in my case!”

“I know,” Sue Ellen laughed. “At least I married a different man the third time I got married!”

“You did,” Pam agreed.

“Not that it worked out all that great, I mean we haven’t even been married five years and here I am looking at my third divorce!”

“I’m sorry,” Pam said compassionately. “I know this can’t be easy for you.”

“It’s not,” Sue Ellen sighed. “I mean it all happened so fast and I’m not sure I’m doing the right thing.”

“So do you love him?”

Sue Ellen shifted uncomfortably from that question as she was not sure how to answer it. She then dodged it, “Why do you ask?”

“Because I don’t want to see you make the same mistake I did. So if you love him I think you should try to work out your problems.”

“Thanks Pam, I know you mean well but…” Sue Ellen stopped mid-sentence as she was finding it hard to put into words what she felt.

“You don’t love him?”

“Honestly I don’t know if I love him anymore,” Sue Ellen sighed. “I thought I did, but then he released the movie and it just changed everything.”

“So if you don’t love him why do you doubt your decision to divorce him?”

“Because it’s safer to stay married to him. I mean as long as I am JR can’t…”

“JR?” Pam asked surprised. “What does JR have to do with anything?”

“A lot…” Sue Ellen looked down in shame before she admitted, “I kissed him Pam.”

Pam dropped her face before she exclaimed, “You did what?”

“The other night after we got back, JR and I had a cup of tea and we were talking. Then before I knew what had happened I was kissing him. I think he started it, but it doesn’t matter since I wanted him to,” Sue Ellen bit her lip. “What’s even worse is that I wanted him.”

“So what stopped you?”

“Don, he showed up and saw us kissing and jumped to the wrong conclusions…”

“Oh no!”

“Yeah he accused me of having an affair with JR, we argued and before I knew it we had decided to divorce…” Sue Ellen confessed.

Pam gave her a concerned look. “But Sue Ellen, if that’s what happened you really need to talk to him…”

“I’ve already talked to JR!”

“No not JR,” Pam shook her head. “Don.”

“But why?”

“Because you can’t throw away your marriage over a misunderstanding,” Pam said sensibly. “Don’t you see that you owe it to yourself to sort this out with him at a time when you’re not arguing?”

“Maybe you’re right,” Sue Ellen sighed.

“You know I’m right, why don’t you call him?”

“I don’t know which hotel he’s staying at in New York.”

“Well then have someone track him down for you or go after him!”

“I guess I could do that. But what about John Ross?”

“What about him?” Pam asked.

“I’ve already told him I’m divorcing Don, so I’m not sure he’d handle it that well if I’ll change my mind…”

“John Ross is almost an adult Sue Ellen. Two more years and then he’ll be off to college. So I really don’t think you can let him interfere with your marriage…”

“I know but…”

“No buts, you need to talk to Don…”

“I know but I already promised JR that…”

“No you can’t let him get to you. He’s not good for you. Don’t you remember all the shit he’s put you through?”

“I do but…”

“Good, then just remember that a leopard never loses its spots,” Pam said.

“But Pam I…”

“No buts, no matter how much JR says he’s changed, we both know that he hasn’t and that he never will. Because once a JR, always a JR!”
 

Honkytonkangel

Telly Talk Fan
Ok I'm really happy that someone came in and stopped Sue Ellen taking that drink and I was cool with it being Pam right up until the end. It was cool to see a glimpse of the old friendship between them.
I had to giggle at the talk of Southfork and the multiple marriages it's seen courtesy of the Ewing women not being able to stay away from their men and I nearly choked on my drink laughing at Sue Ellen's description of Cally.
But then Pam had to go and ruin it at the end by insisting that Sue Ellen talk to Don and now I want to slap her again. And I think she's being biased and very hypocritical. If JR hasn't/can't change, then why should Sue Ellen listen to anything Don has to say when he's hurt her too.
I agree that Sue Ellen does need to sort things out with him but it should be in a lawyers office and though I love my Sue Ellen I'm wanting to shake her again too.
Staying married to Don to keep JR away is nuts (and since she's already kissed him, clearly not working anyway).
I stand by one of my earlier comments. They all need to go on Jerry Springer and beat each other with chairs.
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Honkytonkangel, oh yeah if Sue Ellen were to fall back into drinking it would be a very bad thing for both herself and her family as it always brought out the worst in her. Yet she is an alcoholic so it's realistic that she has moments of weakness where her resolve to stay sober is tested.
Although I have to hold my breath whenever Sue Ellen holds a drink in her hand, I fully agree that scenes like that are necessary, because a lot of alcoholics do go through moments of weakness. ;) I'm thrilled that Sue Ellen - so far - has managed to stay sober! :clap:You (@Karin Schill) did an amazing job of describing the inner turmoil that Sue Ellen was going through! :spinning:

Congratulations on your new family members. Getting a pet is an exciting event in a child's life. I was 8 when I got my first pet, which was a rabbit. So I think I understand your daughter's enthusiasm! :spinning:
:thank:
But I am glad that you asked about Melissa, since I suppose that meant that you found her likable and/or a good love interest for John Ross. ;)
Well, I'm afraid that you might have read a bit too much into my comment! :embarrassed: I think that John Ross has a lot more growing up to do before he's ready for a steady relationship! And why would Melissa want to wait around for that? She seems like a nice girl who should pursue other types of teenage boys, IMO!
I agree that the business scenes at the office, scenes out on the ranch, love scenes, big family scenes, heart to hearts between different family members and couples made Dallas into what it was. It wouldn't be the same show if you took away one of those components. Oh and a lot of it's humor came from the characters and knowing their relationships with each other. :tv:
I'm happy that we agree on that! I'm hoping that there'll be much more focus on the Ewing family, the Krebbs family, and the Barnes family in the episodes to come! Because that's where the heart of "Dallas" lies, IMO! :kiss:

Then as for Sue Ellen, I think it's only natural for her to second guess her decision to divorce Don considering that it's a life-changing decision. So she needs to be sure it's really the right thing for her. Anyway the next scene might shed some more light on why Sue Ellen is feeling apprehensive about her divorce...
Right again, you are!!! :clap:
 
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pd fan

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Amazing work really Karin !!what a great discussion between Pam and Sue Ellen ,:best: you 're a great artiste quick we need someone to make it for télévision :vote::) !!!!
 
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