1.34 ratings for the Pilot (TERRIBLE) Plus my review...

MarkSinacori

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The Pilot was everything I expected in many ways.



1. There was no theme song
2. No intro

But this was just the Pilot, they didn't show the Dynasty logo until the last scene ended.



The show was cut up into a teaser scene which didn't lead into the Dynasty Logo or anything. Just all the names onscreen, that was it. Then, not 4 acts that followed. Always, when a nighttime drama airs, they have 3 commercial breaks and then in the last act, it leads into scenes from the next show (years ago they'd have another commercial break after that last 4th act and then promos for next episode would be a few minutes later like Melrose Place, Beverly Hills 90210,m Party Of Five et.) When the explosion happened and then Blake and Cristal kissed, I though THAT was the end of the episode. We go right into commercial. Then there are like 5 minutes left and they throw that into an act 5? Why did they do that? It made me go "What? There's more?!?" Those last 5 minutes should have played out with act 4.


I do not like Cristal. She is nothing like the original one. She's a teeny-bopper, much to why it's on the DAMN CW. However, this is a different take. She's bitchier. She's meaner. She's more like an Alexis.


You know, I am guessing something. Something. Something. This show is tackling new days stuff. Heck, why not have Blake be divorced from Alexis who's a MILF? I mean, 25 years older! And who would be better than Joan Collins?! The new Alexis would be a cameo, maybe a few times, but nothing big or physical. Maybe Blake married her and she was 20-25 years older than him. Joan Collins does not look her age, she looks younger.


I do not like the character of Jeff. He had very little to do in the Pilot.


The explosion was surprising, but why the heck did it have to happen to Matthew, why not some major character?


I like the butler. He was good. But not good enough. I also sort of liked Fallon, but she could also be better. I say this because the dialogue was just spoken out. It wasn't strong enough.

The script was AWFUL. Being a screenwriter, and knowing the original show, this writer or producers did not take challenges or chances. They toned everything DOWN. They made Cristal still in love and cared about Matthew, they didn't make Matthew mean in the slightest way when she said she was leaving him, Claudia was rarely used until the final scene, acting psycho, and the explosion was fun, but why did it have to be him? Such a minor character who probably will be killed off. And that catfight. Not good. This is what I mean when I say they didn't go all the way. They stopped it. Here we are into act 3, which, as a screenwriter of nighttime TV, your 3rd act must end BIG or else the audience will tune out. Okay, we got a small fight. Then Cristal just stops Fallon. NOT GOOD. It should have been bigger. It would have gained more viewers had it been better.



1.34 rating is TERRIBLE. HORRIBLE. NO GOOD. VERY BAD.


Melrose Place's pilot scored what? 2.3? Higher? Then each week the episodes dropped.


I can't wait to see people who actually like the show defending it and going "Oh, next week though...it will go up!" It's 1.3...it's not going to rise that high from there if that's what it got in the Pilot. Either lower or slightly higher, but it probably won't do more than 1.8/1.9 next week.
 
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MarkSinacori

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a 1.34 rating...and it was the lowest rated show of the entire night of all the networks!
 

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Are these general audience ratings? In the 18-49 group, “Riverdale” at 8 returned with a 0.8/3 and 2.3 million viewers, doubling its season 1 season finale.. At 9, “Dynasty” debuted to a 0.4/1 and 1.3 million viewers. So it lost half of its lead-in viewers.
 

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Doesn't this make it more exciting and interesting when they do bring in Alexis?
I think it dilutes a character like Alexis when everyone around her is as bitchy. She needs to be the wrong, she needs something to contrast against and that was what worked on original Dynasty. Krystle was the right, she wasn't bitchy. She was essentially good, human but good. Krystle is supposed to be the moral compass of the show. She cant be a bitch.
 

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I think it dilutes a character like Alexis when everyone around her is as bitchy. She needs to be the wrong, she needs something to contrast against and that was what worked on original Dynasty. Krystle was the right, she wasn't bitchy. She was essentially good, human but good. Krystle is supposed to be the moral compass of the show. She cant be a bitch.

I agree. But that was the original. Had they kept her toned down it would have been better. She's a teeny-bopper. That's what they wanted because it's the CW!

FYI, I doubt that nextflix deal will keep giving this show additional episodes, a full season, a 2nd season, not unless they get to at least 2 million or more in ratings! Lower than 1.99 is BAD on CW!
 

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Doesn't this make it more exciting and interesting when they do bring in Alexis?
Everybody now on most shows is bitchy and "I know more about the world than you do"-ish. That's gone on for years.

We've discussed on the oldDYNASTY page that one of the problems the first show got into is that they eventually made the entire show, and all the other characters, as campy and as outrageous as Alexis. And that hurt the impact of Alexis' sociopathology and the impact of the show.
 

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Right now, they are lucky they air all the episodes they already produced. I just hope they don't do all 13 and then some aren't aired or the series gets yanked before that! It's probably going to end like that. It will be pulled like episode 4 or 5 or 6 if the show keeps getting these ratings or goes lower! I doubt a netflix deal will help it in any way. They probably thought since it was Dynasty they'd get high ratings! WRONG! Most of the audience of the original is dead, in nursing homes, or too old now to watch TV or CW. They are busy doing other stuff with their lives, with grandchildren or families of their own, the young ones who are still alive. It's a CW show, so the majority will be teens, and this is not working. Plus it's NOT a continuation. Had it been one...ratings probably would have been slightly higher.
 
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She needs to be the wrong, she needs something to contrast against and that was what worked on original Dynasty. Krystle was the right, she wasn't bitchy.
Hmm, yeah, I hadn't thought of it this way.
 

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Hmm, yeah, I hadn't thought of it this way.
I imagine all kinds of neurotic stuff going on now behind the scenes of the show much like the original. We will probably see Cristal become softer around episode 5 when the writers decide she needs to be different. We will have montages of her stroking kittens and helping birth a foal, and then later she will buy a poor family a house and speak to Jesus.
 

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Eh?


It was only 35 years ago, how old do people live to where you are from?

People who were 50 and older and even some in their late 40s are not around anymore, most likely. I was born when Dynasty was going into its 2nd season. But I got into the show on soapnet and other networks that aired it before that...I think TNT might have in the late 1990s, or one of the channels on cable. If it was a revival with the old cast coming back, most likely those who are in their late 40s-50s-60s now and were in their 20s-30s then would watch, possibly. They might not be interested because this is just a remake.
 

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People who were 50 and older and even some in their late 40s are not around anymore, most likely.


But what about all those people who were 50 and younger?

But I got into the show on soapnet
And what about all those people who watched the show through soapnet? If, like you they enjoyed it, they should still be alive and not in a nursing home.

If it was a revival with the old cast coming back, most likely those who are in their late 40s-50s-60s now and were in their 20s-30s then would watch, possibly.
Like what happened with people watching TNT DALLAS?

They might not be interested because this is just a remake.


Then again, the fact that it is a remake might make them interested. It worked for BATTLESTAR GALACTICA & WENTWORTH.
 

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They toned everything DOWN. They made Cristal still in love and cared about Matthew, they didn't make Matthew mean in the slightest way when she said she was leaving him,

But that's exactly how it happened in the original show as well!
Even 6 episodes after she married Blake, Krystle still ran to Matthew to help him with money she made by selling Blake's necklace and kissed him while they were on his bed, she even told him she still loved him.
Later she told Matthew, that she belongs to Blake now and he understood. So it's quite close to the original what they do.

Oh, and I've seen Dynasty in it's original run back in the 80s (started very young to watch that stuff, hehe) and i'm 43 now ... but hopefully still far away from any nursing home or being dead! ;)
 
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I think rating drops after a pilot are not that unusual. All those tuned in just out of curiosity and didn't like it won't come back.
So i predict no more than 0.8 or 0.9 for episode two, if the pilot scored 1.3
 

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I think rating drops after a pilot are not that unusual. All those tuned in just out of curiosity and didn't like it won't come back.
So i predict no more than 0.8 or 0.9 for episode two, if the pilot scored 1.3
But couldn't it go up if more people watched it after the original airings ratings were counted?
 

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Hard to say in that case, as most people in the world would watch it on Netflix and not on the CW anyway. But Netflix never releases numbers, so there's no way to know for us.
 

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Hard to say in that case, as most people in the world would watch it on Netflix and not on the CW anyway. But Netflix never releases numbers, so there's no way to know for us.
Although I guess even Netflix ratings would be a factor in subsequent season renewals.
 
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