Assassination attempt on Donald Trump

[Snarky Oracle!]

As someone who used to behave as a rabid dog on this very forum using every opportunity to spew over-the-top melodrama regarding everything Trump, yesterday’s assassination attempt is a reminder of that embarrassing toxicity that had driven my past political posts, which I have regretted since about 6 months into Joe Biden’s tired sitcom of a presidency.

Aw, you never really seemed all that badly behaved.

Twitter has a different nickname for him. All I can say is it's a play on Lee Harvey Oswald.

You don't want to say??

The fact is: political murders are often conspiracies. And when the "lone nut killer" trope reappears -- as it always seems to -- it's almost a flashing red light that something more rotten is afoot... I mean, with all the security around, why is it that these puny little loner dudes are always the ones who mysteriously manage to break through that security?

(I hate to say this, and I really don't want to go there, a ton of the details of JFKJr.'s plane crash from 25 years ago are, like, waaaaaaaaay shady. ...Why would anybody knock off that handsome goofball and his bitchy wife and her sister, especially when he wasn't yet anywhere near The Oval Office?).

Everything about this is fishy af. Even just everything we saw happen on stage, it all seemed very theatrical. I'm just not sure I'm believing what I'm seeing.

60 year cycle -- I long-assumed something like this would probably happen during the early-2020s. It's not as dramatic as that drive through Dealey Plaza, no, but there are already parallels a responsible person could cite.

Also, we're as close to nuclear holocaust as we've been since 62/63/64. The culture is in meltdown in a way it hasn't been since then. If we survive it, what will be the contemporary equivalent of the hippie era? We've got Ukraine and Gaza (which we're funding) that are extremely unpopular -- which the corporate media and federal government are lying about 24/7 -- but are terribly lucrative, like Vietnam (and they're even talking about reinstating the draft).

One difference is that the general economy was stronger in the '60s than it is today. The powder-keg dynamic in the mid-2020s is different.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Aw, you never really seemed all that badly behaved.

SER! was always much more insufferable to me.

You don't want to say??

Only because I know it won't go over well with certain people. I'll go ahead and say it, though. They're calling him "Ree Tardy Oswald."

 

[Frank Underwood]

As someone who used to behave as a rabid dog on this very forum using every opportunity to spew over-the-top melodrama regarding everything Trump, yesterday’s assassination attempt is a reminder of that embarrassing toxicity that had driven my past political posts, which I have regretted since about 6 months into Joe Biden’s tired sitcom of a presidency.

One should be able to disagree on policy without resorting to histrionics and dehumanization and participating in a collective “oh my God if he wins, it’s the end of democracy!” hysteria (fueled by the biased legacy media machinery), including over-the-top comparisons to the Nazi monster who had millions of people murdered (yes, I’d posted some of the Hitler memes myself, guilty as charged).

But it’s all just a scam to ensure up-for-grabs votes (and if you’re gay or black they think they’re entitled to them by default). Sadly, it’s playing with fire as it can lead to a tragedy.

A similar event took place 2 months ago involving our Prime Minister here in Slovakia. Though a leftie himself, he’s a conservative (therefore often mistaken for a right-winger by the Western media), whereas his opponents are US-style woke lefties who also love to hyperventilate and had painted him as the Ultimate Evil / Hitler prior to the assassination attempt that sent 4 bullets at close range into his stomach.

As a former fan of MSNBC and Ketih Olbermann (*shudder*), I know how the legacy media manipulates people into demonizing their political enemies (Fox did it to Obama).

I went through a similar phase during the Bush and Obama eras. Sarah Palin was my Trump. My hatred was so strong that I bought into every salacious rumor about her.

And while I'm still not a fan, I now realize how misguided and counter-productive that level of hatred is. Even when opposing someone, doing so fairly and truthfully matters.

I truly admire your growth and self-awareness. Everybody has to figure these things out for themselves in their own time (sadly, some never do.)

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Word is, the "I hate Trump, I hate the Republicans" video is a hoax, and not Mr. Crooks. From a trolling lookalike. Probably to impugn the left.

EDIT: the story is that the poster of the video deleted it himself after it went viral. But YT says the video violated standards... So who pulled it down?..

Elliot Roger, the homicidal virgin's videos 10 years ago stayed up for a while.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

The building on which the shooter climbed up a ladder and onto the roof was occupied by local police who seemed unaware of it. Eventually, one of those officers confronted the shooter on the roof, the shooter turning his weapon on the cop (not shooting him) and the cop backed off several minutes before the assassination attempt began.

Numerous witnesses saw the kid on the roof and screamed "he's got a gun!" (there's plenty of video on this) and law enforcement, local and federal, remained blithely oblivious (much to the frustration of those witnesses).

The Secret Service snipers (visible behind Trump in some footage) become aware of the shooter, some 150 yards away, and they aim, getting into firing position, 42 seconds before the assassin begins shooting --- and during that 42 seconds, they never call for Trump to be removed from the stage nor fire at the assassin until the assassin himself fires (eight rounds).

Incompetence? It smells like something else.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

I'm actually starting to get a wee bit worried about the safety of the orange-haired/bearded witness, interviewed here for several minutes by the BBC (but there are several other witnesses and videos out there)...

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Oh, yeah. It was a plot.

And everybody in the media seems to realize it, but they're all talking around it because they just don't wanna go there... Conspiracy theories are so messy.

 

[Richard Channing]

Oh, yeah. It was a plot.

And everybody in the media seems to realize it, but they're all talking around it because they just don't wanna go there... Conspiracy theories are so messy.

Cause by going there they'd have to acknowledge the fact that someone got murdered just to make this whole fiasco look more authentic.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Cause by going there they'd have to acknowledge the fact that someone got murdered just to make this whole fiasco look more authentic.

Explain...

EDIT: oh, do you mean a faked assassination attempt? I posited that theory on Sunday, a kind of BOB ROBERTS scenario. But I think the intent was more PARALLAX VIEW -- quite sincere, although this gunman (if he was the only one) was a willing participant. But that's what they would have said about Warren Beatty after they shot Jock Ewing.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

A couple of the key Secret Service units were taken away from Trump's detail and given to First Lady Jill Biden who had an event the same day. A lot of the team protecting Trump on Saturday were new, and although only 7% of the Secret Service are women, they seem over-represented in the agents protecting Trump --- short, relatively green, fumbling women, such that it looks like a comedy sketch.

SkyNews and Douglas Murray are fascistic, but they're not wrong about this:

This one is a conservative too, and I disagree with several points he makes, but his "Secret Cervix" joke almost won me over:

 

[Richard Channing]

Explain...

EDIT: oh, do you mean a faked assassination attempt? I posited that theory on Sunday, a kind of BOB ROBERTS scenario. But I think the intent was more PARALLAX VIEW -- quite sincere, although this gunman (if he was the only one) was a willing participant. But that's what they would have said about Warren Beatty after they shot Jock Ewing.

Exactly. Actually I went and read a synopsis of the plot of Bob Roberts when you posted it earlier on the thread and it sure does seem a lot like what went down here.

It's becoming increasingly clear the whole thjng was staged. The way the shooter was seemingly allowed (those 42 seconds) to do whatever he had to do first and then was shot is highly suspicious. Do we also believe that he, who apparently wasn't a very got shot according to the rifle club he belonged to, was also allowed to shoot live rounds at Trump? I doubt it. I don't think he was really shot at all. I think one of his aides bloodied his ear up when they were all crouched behind that plinth. It's just too convenient to just be shot in the ear, not enough to do any lasting damage but just enough to make you a hero/martyr.

Which all seems like a crazy stunt to try and get away with in this day and age but if it makes you a hero and wins you an election I guess it could be worth it.

They only thing real about the whole thing is that a spectator and the shooter are dead. Collateral damage to pull of the hoax of the century?

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Exactly. Actually I went and read a synopsis of the plot of Bob Roberts when you posted it earlier on the thread and it sure does seem a lot like what went down here.

It's becoming increasingly clear the whole thjng was staged. The way the shooter was seemingly allowed (those 42 seconds) to do whatever he had to do first and then was shot is highly suspicious. Do we also believe that he, who apparently wasn't a very got shot according to the rifle club he belonged to, was also allowed to shoot live rounds at Trump? I doubt it. I don't think he was really shot at all. I think one of his aides bloodied his ear up when they were all crouched behind that plinth. It's just too convenient to just be shot in the ear, not enough to do any lasting damage but just enough to make you a hero/martyr.

Which all seems like a crazy stunt to try and get away with in this day and age but if it makes you a hero and wins you an election I guess it could be worth it.

They only thing real about the whole thing is that a spectator and the shooter are dead. Collateral damage to pull of the hoax of the century?

Well, no, I can't say I agree with that scenario (although I joked about it last weekend). I think it's not like BOB ROBERTS, but more like PARALLAX VIEW.

In my opinion, the shooting was very real, and I very much believe Trump was hit -- and the intention was indeed to kill him.

But they found a disenfranchised, loner kid (the deep state, the intel operators, have a long history of finding them and grooming them) and he, Crooks, was directed to the site, allowed to get into position, the Secret Service ignoring several minutes of warnings from witnesses and attendees who'd seen the boy climb up the ladder and get into position on the roof, and then waited for him to start firing before they shot back, killing him and thus providing the requisite patsy (or, in this case, a semi-patsy, like Sirhan Sirhan -- one who fired but was unaware of the overall scheme).

Were there other gunmen? Some people felt there were -- the reason for which might be the need to utilize a more efficient sniper who could pull off the crime which the nut kid, a lousy shot, wasn't competent enough to achieve.

So, yeah, I think the assassination attempt was 100% real. But they also needed to frame a guilty man, carefully chosen, as they went.

 

[Julia's Gun]

Make America Hate Again.
There, i've written Trump's speech for him.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

SPOILER ALERT:

It's strange about these dark political things, this conspiratorial stuff... In the '60s, the assassinations, the cultural upheaval, Vietnam, Watergate (several of the burglars and operatives were in Dealey Plaza a decade earlier), etc..., felt almost magisterial in their grandiose, unconquerable evil.
And did for decades. And still do.

As if Satan himself was behind the cabal which ran everything, and you felt it.

Today, and really since the '80s, the current horrors feel lighter, dumber, sillier almost -- even though the evil just as great and death tolls just as high.

Have we just gotten used to it? Do we know more now than we did then? Is our ability (or inability) to combat these establishment evils just something we've given up on?

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Another wrinkle -- turns out the building the gunman was on was occupied by three Secret Service snipers. (So it looks like we've found the real would-be assassins).

Pay attention to the cartoon at the start of the video:

Snipers Saw Trump Assassin 3 Times Before Shooting & Did NOTHING! Said He “DISAPPEARED”! (youtube.com)

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Make no mistake -- we are ruled...

Someone Shorted Trump’s Stock Just Before The Assassination Attempt! (youtube.com)

 

[Frank Underwood]

Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle resigns after being grilled by House lawmakers. Hopefully she will be replaced with someone who isn't afraid of sloped roofs:

Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle resigns after Trump assassination attempt - YouTube

Secret Service Director GRILLED To A Crisp! - YouTube

 

[DallasFanForever]

Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle resigns after being grilled by House lawmakers. Hopefully she will be replaced with someone who isn't afraid of sloped roofs:

Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle resigns after Trump assassination attempt - YouTube

Secret Service Director GRILLED To A Crisp! - YouTube

I can’t say I’m surprised by this. There was just too much heat on her to come out of this unscathed. She probably made the right choice. I don’t think it was going to end well for her either way.

 

[bmasters9]

One should be able to disagree on policy without resorting to histrionics and dehumanization and participating in a collective “oh my God if he wins, it’s the end of democracy!” hysteria

Or worse, if "she" (in the case of Harris) wins, God's gonna come back and it'll be the last days (sorry for the injection of religion there).

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Oops --- I screwed up on that other thread (about Charlie Kirk): Kash Patel's FBI said Trump's would-be assassin, Thomas Matthew Crooks, acted alone.

Was my posting error really an error, or a deep state psy-op to mislead the public??

We can all relax though. As all lone nut scenarios always turn out to be true.