Bobby Buying And Adopting Christopher

Chris2

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Losing Pam for the second time hardened Bobby. He was never quite the same. I think this was actually realistic.
 

CeeCee72

Telly Talk Star
Bobby was not a saint. Remember when he proposed to another woman (Pam) before breaking up with his other fiancée (Jenna)?

Plus the way he just walked away from Jenna knowing she was carrying his child and STILL had the nerve to get mad at Ray for stepping up and helping her.
 

KayLloyd

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Plus the way he just walked away from Jenna knowing she was carrying his child and STILL had the nerve to get mad at Ray for stepping up and helping her.

Bobby didn't "walk away", he
tried to have a rational conversation with Jenna and offer the only thing that he owed her, support for the child he fathered, but she turned into an irrational screaming shrew and told him to leave. Do you really think that Lucas and Jenna would have been better off if Bobby had gone through with an unhappy marriage to Jenna? I've witnessed the fallout from a well intentioned man entering into and staying in a toxic marriage for the sake of a child, and trust me, it's not pretty for either the child or father.
 

Billy Wall

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Plus the way he just walked away from Jenna knowing she was carrying his child and STILL had the nerve to get mad at Ray for stepping up and helping her.

Bobby walking away from Jenna? That’s a good one. Lol She left him at the alter twice. She didn’t even have the decency to tell Bobby that he wasn’t Charlie’s father. Even after all that, Bobby moves heaven and earth to keep her from going to prison.
 
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Kenny Coyote

Telly Talk Star
Bobby didn't "walk away", he
tried to have a rational conversation with Jenna and offer the only thing that he owed her, support for the child he fathered, but she turned into an irrational screaming shrew and told him to leave. Do you really think that Lucas and Jenna would have been better off if Bobby had gone through with an unhappy marriage to Jenna? I've witnessed the fallout from a well intentioned man entering into and staying in a toxic marriage for the sake of a child, and trust me, it's not pretty for either the child or father.

I agree. Bobby told Jenna he wanted to do everything he could so the baby would know its father. Bob wanted to help with money and anything else she wanted that would be helpful. Jenna refused all of Bobby's offer's to help and said she would do whatever she could to ensure the baby would never know Bobby.

When Charlie got kidnapped just before her wedding to Bobby was to take place, and then Naldo told her to do what he said if she ever wanted to see Charlie again, it would have been ridiculous to expect her to ignore that and go on with the wedding as planned. Nobody can blame her for not showing up for the wedding in light of that. There wouldn't have been any point in getting married while Charlie was kidnapped. How could anyone enjoy the wedding under those circumstances?

I do think Bobby made a massive mistake in not seeing anything suspicious when he met Naldo outside the justice of the peace and he told Bobby had and Jenna had just gotten married. Bobby knew Jenna well enough to know she wouldn't have dumped Bobby for Naldo. Besides that, Charlie was nowhere to be seen - only the most important person in Jenna's life. How could Bobby not see something coercive was going on there? It was a very disappointing reaction from the man who said "If ever see Naldo Marquetta again I'll kill him."

Bobby just wasn't good at keeping to his word. He proposed to Jenna and then kept seeing Pam on the side. He proposed to Pam while still engaged to Jenna. He was so non-committed to Jenna he got angry at the announcement of their engagement at the Oil Baron's Ball because then all those people then also would find out his word was no good. For a guy like Bobby who claims to value honesty above all else, it's embarrassing to be exposed as someone who promises to marry a woman without meaning it. I think Jenna was much better off not married to Bobby who a man whose word didn't mean anything and who loved another woman.

Did you notice how Ray treated Bobby after finding out what he'd done and especially after finding out Bobby had gotten Jenna pregnant before breaking off their engagement? Ray tried to ruin Bob's wedding day by telling Bobby that he was a hypocrite for being about to walk down the aisle with Pam while another woman was carrying his baby! Then there was a later scene where Bobby tells Ray that he'd like Ray to look after Jenna while she was pregnant and that he would reimburse Ray for any of his expenses as far as things Jenna needed. It was an unusual scene. Bobby was being as nice as he could to Ray, saying how much he appreciated Ray looking after Jenna for him and Ray just replies very shortly, almost cutting off Bobby. Then when Bobby told Ray he wanted to pay for any expenses were Jenna was concerned, Ray said "don't worry about it." It was so weird. Bobby should have said: "I'm not worried about it Ray. I'm telling you what I intend to do." I love it when people say "don't worry about it" in certain situations. I say: "Do I look worried"? They have no idea how to respond.

Bobby broke his promise to Jenna about marrying her, but I don't have any reason to think he wasn't going to follow through with helping with his own son's expenses! Ray was acting like he was thinking: Bobby, you have absolutely no credibility anymore. I don't believe a word you say.

Bobby certainly was impulsive and he did have a credibility problem to a degree, but I can't imagine that he was going to renege on his promise to help pay for his own son's expenses! He wouldn't run out on his obligation to pay for child support! Bobby wasn't a monster. Ray was so insulting to him that day, like telling him, no you won't follow through on helping your kid either, don't even try to tell me you're actually going to help financially.

Then one morning when Bobby goes to talk to Ray he finds Jenna and Charlie are living with Ray. Bobby acts surprised to see them there and asks them what they're doing there so early and Charlie says "we live here." Bobby is understandably surprised! So he asks if someone could explain to him what's going on and Ray punches Bob right in the mouth!
 

Kenny Coyote

Telly Talk Star
Losing Pam for the second time hardened Bobby. He was never quite the same. I think this was actually realistic.

I would describe the change we saw to be one that was the result of the process of a boy maturing into a man. I'm using the word "boy" colloquially. Chronologically, Bobby was of course a man when the show started but he acted like an overgrown kid. He was idealistic. Ideals are great, but being idealistic is naive at best and dangerous at worst. He lost his self-composure embarrassingly easily for a grown man. Then as time went on, and especially after Pam divorced him the second time as you mentioned, Bobby was able to act somewhat cool more consistently. He retained his self-composure much better in those later years. Bobby was growing up!
 
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