Celebrity Big Brother 2018: Year of the Woman

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HM’s who are actually listening to each other,
Yes, and it was refreshing to see. I also noticed that none of them wanted to steal the limelight, they all seemed genuinely invested in the idea for this series.

On first impressions I’m liking Malika (friend of the Kardashians) far more than I thought I would she’s interesting to listen to and seems genuine.
Absolutely! I was half-expecting some kind of diva attention from her.

She married a woman at 79 and has gone into the BB house at 82.!
I love this, it's always really encouraging to see older generations with so much zest in them.

When talking to BB in the DR about immunity Anne said that she wanted to win a task and I liked this quote....”You've got to meet the competition and beat it - not wish it away." ... i.e. she wants to earn her own immunity.. I like this outlook from her.
I don't think I'm going to like much from her based on what I've read recently and how she totally ignored the issue on sexual harassment, however, I do think her logic in this was perfect. Winning something for putting in the work and not by default is the best outlook.
 

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She advocated degrading women in prison by chaining them to their bed while they gave birth to their children.
For some idiotic reasoning, I actually thought she was against this.

I'm glad she's in the house because I always enjoy seeing people like her get exposed for who they really are and what they believe in. I hope some of these issues with her and raised in the house.
 

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I'm glad she's in the house because I always enjoy seeing people like her get exposed for who they really are and what they believe in. I hope some of these issues with her and raised in the house.

Ann will do well in the house because the public seem to like controversial characters in there even if they are right wing zealots such as Katie Hopkins who was there until the end. I just hope there are lots of embarrassing tasks for Widdy involving electric shocks, gunge or fish guts.
 

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Yes, and she's very funny with it.

But I got the impression she (along with Ann) was belittling sexual harassment in the workplace.

It's not about having a choice and the ability to say no to someone who is sexually harassing another person, which is what I thought these two were implying.

I didn't have an issue with anything Amanda said. I think she was very much telling it how she sees it from her perspective and speaking as someone from her generation. Ann I wouldn't expect much understanding from anyway so I wasn't surprised by her views in the slightest.

was very impressed with last nights HL's, very good editing with lengthy segments of interesting conversations and HM’s who are actually listening to each other, hardly any swearing either apart from Ashley who dropped the first F- Bomb.

Yeah it was good, and BB has clearly gone for more 'respectable' HM's this time and there was a distinct lack of loud trashy fame whores.

Anne - I'm either going to really like her or..not. She keeps turning her nose up at everything, is narrow minded, snappy and will speak up, its her way or no way and let’s not forget she snores too. Shes the perfect HM from a viewer’s point of view :D

She's interesting to watch as she's so awkward and socially inept. Interesting, yet cringeworthy at the same time.

Can anyone believe Amanda is 82? She married a woman at 79 and has gone into the BB house at 82.!

I can't believe it either and she doesn't even look like she's had any work done. Amazing. I think I liked her better as a brunette though.

On first impressions I’m liking Malika (friend of the Kardashians) far more than I thought I would she’s interesting to listen to and seems genuine.

Yes, I was very pleasantly surprised by her. One mention of the Kardashians and I was fully expecting a shallow, vacuous idiot but she's actually lovely and seems like she's got her head screwed on.

India is going to be one to watch, she was civil to Anne about the bed/towel situation and then was bitching about her in the DR, I’m looking forward to watching the dynamic between these two.

Yeah India is probably gonna be the bitch this season, although I certainly hope they put in someone bitchier!
 

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I didn't have an issue with anything Amanda said. I think she was very much telling it how she sees it from her perspective and speaking as someone from her generation.
I haven't seen anything else from her that is questionable and maybe she was a little too drunk when she commented on that "They have a choice" answer. That aside I think she's remarkable for her age and I love how much she embraces the show.
 

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The conversations are so good, we even had Brexit, although I'd rather forget what Ashley did on an ex-boyfriends sofa.

The HM's seem to be seeking Annes approval for some reason or maybe its just that they're aware or think she hasn't had similar life experiences to them? - I'm not sure ?

I get the feeling that Rachel does not like or is trying to expose Anne (and I’m not sticking up for Anne here) but I thought that Rachel set Anne up when she questioned Annes opninion on transgender surgery. Surely Rachel and Anne must already know each other and Rachel must be aware of Annes views. Also when Rachel was in the DR she was talking about how everyone is happily getting along apart from Anne "because of her forthright views", I actually think Rachel is just as forthright with her own views.


Anne is so not comfortable listening to others talking about their feelings, it looks excruciating for her which is probably why shes looking forward to the arrival of the men. . Also interesting that she doesn’t approve of women Priests and Maggie was quick to mention the Catholic abuse cover up, I wanted to hear more of this conversation, but unfortunately India butted in and shut it down.

They impressed me with being able to change a tyre, my Dad wouldn’t allow me to get a car until I knew how to do this :lol:
 

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I can't believe it either and she doesn't even look like she's had any work done. Amazing.
That aside I think she's remarkable for her age and I love how much she embraces the show.
When I watch Amanda I just don't see an old lady (either physically or mentally) and I keep getting a shock when I remember that she is 82.

Yes, I was very pleasantly surprised by her. One mention of the Kardashians and I was fully expecting a shallow, vacuous idiot but she's actually lovely and seems like she's got her head screwed on.
Malika was insightful in the DR too, when she said something about - it will be interesting to see which women change once the men arrive.

India is probably gonna be the bitch this season,
I've noticed that India talks a lot (unless thats just the editing).
She is very open about her experiences and when she mentioned her 16 year old son it made me wonder how he feels seeing her on BB talking about him?


although I certainly hope they put in someone bitchier!
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I get the feeling that Rachel does not like or is trying to expose Anne (and I’m not sticking up for Anne here) but I thought that Rachel set Anne up when she questioned Annes opninion on transgender surgery. Surely Rachel and Anne must already know each other and Rachel must be aware of Annes views. Also when Rachel was in the DR she was talking about how everyone is happily getting along apart from Anne "because of her forthright views", I actually think Rachel is just as forthright with her own views.

I hope she is trying to expose Ann but I don't think Rachel is that devious. Ann is no fan of transgender people and was very critical of Prime Minister Theresa May's reforms to help trans people change their legal gender but she never mentioned that when Rachel questioned her on the issue because she doesn't want the full extent of her transphobia to come out. However, Ann's mask of respectability slipped when she referred to India as "he" and then blamed India for causing her to make the mistake.

I think this series is being edited to become The Ann Widdecombe Show and some of the other housemates are barely getting any screen time. For example, my first impression of Malika was that she is a very honest, interesting and fun person and I would prefer to see more of her than so much time being given to provide Ann with a platform to spout her extremist opinions.
 

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The conversations are so good,
I take back my comments about how awful and dull I thought this series would be.


The HM's seem to be seeking Annes approval for some reason
I'm certainly getting that from India and I can't figure out why she praises Ann so much. Is she not aware of Ann's barbaric views, or is she looking for approval?

I get the feeling that Rachel does not like or is trying to expose Anne
Ha! I hope she is.

unfortunately India butted in and shut it down.
That bloody well annoyed me. I hate it when people get off lightly for their misguided and rose-tinted views. Ann praises the Catholic church but makes no attempt to speak about the abuse that has gone on over the years.


 

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I think this series is being edited to become The Ann Widdecombe Show and some of the other housemates are barely getting any screen time.

I would prefer to see more of her than so much time being given to provide Ann with a platform to spout her extremist opinions.
I'm the opposite, in that I love to see people like Ann exposed for their nasty and vulgar views on life and people in general. I'm not saying I want it to be all about Ann, but her comments are raising important issues that people are speaking about. There are three people watching in our house, me, Wifey & Teen Ome and it took us nearly 90 minutes to watch last night's show because we were forever pausing it and discussing the issues raised. Someone like Ann is shocking to Teen Ome because she's lived a life without such prejudice throughout her school life and at home. She was throwing questions at us about what life was like back in the 70s and 80s.

I do agree that we need some balance in there and it's very pleasing to watch Malika, Maggie and the others as they share their views on other topics.
 

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I am not ready for the men to go in the house, I love the dynamics right now and could do with another 4/5 days with this lot.
 

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I'm struggling to understand why so many of them are getting it wrong with India. They've only known her as India, so it's not like they've grown up with the person and are struggling with the change.

I'm also not sure why India went to town on Amanda, when she seemed fine with Ann the day before. I can't decide whether India is making it into a bigger drama because she loves the conflict. She was telling Amanda not to be aggressive, yet failed herself at not acting aggressively when others were trying to balance out the argument.

I laughed hard at Courtney's entrance, twice that skirt fell off and they were very quick to move the cameras away.
 

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I might be mistaken, but was that The Killers I heard at the start of the show as Emma Appeared?


I'm struggling to understand why so many of them are getting it wrong with India. They've only known her as India, so it's not like they've grown up with the person and are struggling with the change.
They do need to be careful and respectful. India has talked endlessly about becoming a woman so maybe she just won't let them forget that she was once male?

I'm also not sure why India went to town on Amanda, when she seemed fine with Ann the day before.
I don't think India would dare to take Ann on in the same way as she did Amanda.

I can't decide whether India is making it into a bigger drama because she loves the conflict.
I think she likes the drama and is probably aware it will get her some airtime.
I can sympathise that it must be offensive for her to be referred to as a ‘he' and I honestly don’t know what else Amanda could do but apologise. Amanda should have been more careful, but there was no malicious intent.

From what I’ve seen nobody has an issue with India being transgender, it’s her attitude that’s the problem.

Then to cap it all when the female HM's were getting a sneaky peek at which males were going into the house India had the cheek to say that she dislikes drag queens in the same way some people dislike clowns.

I laughed hard at Courtney's entrance, twice that skirt fell off and they were very quick to move the cameras away.
The best entrance ever! :lmao:
I'm not sure how accidental it was? but it was so funny.

Apart from the wardrobe malfunction Courtney looked so glamorous, has a sense of humour and is also political. I’m so glad Courtney/Shane is in the house.

Shane (Boyzone) did a bit of name dropping before going in so we could get some celebrity gossip. I like Shane ... so far.

Daniel (Comedian) said he wants to change the public's perception of him. I think its likely that 99% of the public have never even heard of him before. I hope he is a funny comedian.

Wayne was just how I imagined he would be. Ginuwine came across as easy going and friendly as did Andrew (The Apprentice) and John Barnes. Jonny seemed like a typical 'reality pro', although that might be my own prejudice towards 'Love Island'.


This is the first time in years that I'm very interested to see how these HM's are going to get on in the house. BB has got some great characters this series and I’m looking forward to getting to know them better.
 

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might be mistaken, but was that The Killers I heard at the start of the show as Emma Appeared?
I will have to go back and check... :roll:

I noticed they are using a lot of music this series.

I think she likes the drama and is probably aware it will get her some airtime.
We got that impression too, she didn't want to let it go and then it causes more conflict with everyone.

From what I’ve seen nobody has an issue with India being transgender, it’s her attitude that’s the problem.
What puzzles me is the way she reacted to Ann the night before. She was all over her saying it didn't matter and hugging where I thought Ann was totally uncomfortable. Not that I care about the miserable git.

India had the cheek to say that she dislikes drag queens in the same way some people dislike clowns.
Wifey picked up on this. India is angry at people but doesn't care that she's acting in a similar way with Courtney. It will be interesting to see how India gets along with Courtney.

I'm not sure how accidental it was? but it was so funny.
I did wonder if it was staged, either way, it was bloody hilarious.


I’m so glad Courtney/Shane is in the house.
Yes me too :D

I like Shane ... so far.
He seems like a decent guy. though have you noticed how much the men are hamming up the 'respect a woman' theme?

I think its likely that 99% of the public have never even heard of him before
A lot happened last night, but I think I picked up on a comment that he had previously made offensive gags and even mocked rape - again he will be one to watch. (If I actually heard that correctly)

Wayne was just how I imagined he would be


We've yet to watch the last 30 minutes. Didn't realise it was in two parts and couldn't be bothered to wait up.


BB has got some great characters this series and I’m looking forward to getting to know them better.

Isn't it amazing how much we were put off by it with the rumours and now it's shaping up to be a complete cracker?
 

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I will have to go back and check...
I'm pretty sure I heard "The Man" :D

I noticed they are using a lot of music this series.
Its not always easy to hear especially with a noisy crowd.

I've also noticed that the crowd don't appear to be booing this series, (unless they're saving it for the evictions) in previous series I'm sure some HM's have been booed going in.

What puzzles me is the way she reacted to Ann the night before. She was all over her saying it didn't matter and hugging where I thought Ann was totally uncomfortable.
Its as though India chose to be more offended by Amanda than Ann. Perhaps because she knew that Amanda would want to make amends and would give her lots of attention. Whereas she knows Ann would also apologise and then not pander to her any further?

Not that I care about the miserable git.
:lol:

Wifey picked up on this. India is angry at people but doesn't care that she's acting in a similar way with Courtney.
I think India was being a hypocrite. Even if India truly doesn't like Drag Acts I would have thought she would be more understanding and show some empathy - after all this is what she demands for herself.

I did wonder if it was staged, either way, it was bloody hilarious.
It was so unexpected :lmao:


have you noticed how much the men are hamming up the 'respect a woman' theme?
Yes, they really are. I do wonder how long this theme will last? usually the themes fizzle out after the first couple of weeks.

A lot happened last night, but I think I picked up on a comment that he had previously made offensive gags and even mocked rape - again he will be one to watch. (If I actually heard that correctly)
Oh no, I don't like the sound of this. I'm going to try and resist googling for more information so I can judge him for being in the house.

Isn't it amazing how much we were put off by it with the rumours and now it's shaping up to be a complete cracker?
I hadn't decided if I was going to watch this series, I was just going to watch the launch and then perhaps dip in and out. Now I can't wait for each HL show. I hope it continues this way. :D
 

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The boys coming into the house seemed to be a hit with everyone. I hadn't thought about this, but if you're used to being around the company of the opposite sex, you're going to miss it when it's not there and I think that's how they were probably feeling too.


I think Malika was spot on in her comments about India being a victim, she really hams up the differences between people and she doesn't listen to anyone's opinion other than her own. She's all smiles and giggles if people are asking her about her life, but when it doesn't go her way she stomps off. I also wonder if forcing herself on Genuwine wanting him to kiss was might be seen as too close for comfort. He clearly said he wouldn't be interested in a relationship with a transgender and she had to push it that little further. It felt like she was trying to make out he was discriminating when it was simply his own preference and it's very difficult to know the real truth until someone meets someone.

Dapper Laughs....? He opens up about the rape joke and then goes into the diary room to say that Johhny will be hanging out of Jess' arse in two weeks time - clearly, he's a changed man. I'm already hating him.

Courtney is friggin' awesome and if it wasn't for Maggie, he would be my winner, I love how he quickly got along with everyone like he had been there the whole time.

I hope Malika, Rachel, Maggie and Courtney get to see the real Dapper dude and then lay into him.


I'm pretty sure I heard "The Man"
You were right it was and I missed it. :rolleyes:


I'm going to try and resist googling for more information
If his diary room conversation is anything to go by, you won't need to Google anything.

Very clever of BB to bring in someone like Dapper with the theme 'Year of the Woman'
 

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And another thing.:rant:



India said she would give up her bed when the lads came in and then totally goes back on her word. She says she's not ageist, yet behaves in such a selfish way that she comes across exactly that! I don't like Ann, but she's 70 and Amanda 82, there's a reason why BB put those towels on the single bed.
 

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Both Malika and Courtney shone for me during last nights HL’s.

Courtney is like a breath of fresh air, she's intelligent and down to earth. The contrast between India and Courtney was clear to see (I know they are different genders) however they've both had struggles that most of us can't begin to imagine. Courtney appears to embrace her identity and India seems to fight against hers.

Malika was fab when she was telling the guys what their jobs will be, she managed to flatter them whilst explaining why they had been assigned certain chores. She also has India sussed and I agree with her assessment of India behaving like a victim.




I think Malika was spot on in her comments about India being a victim, she really hams up the differences between people and she doesn't listen to anyone's opinion other than her own.
Malika can see what India is doing and I'm glad she is speaking up.

India is implying that she isn't accepted as a woman when I think the person not accepting this is herself. She seems to constantly blame others for her own insecurities and it makes me wonder if she has had any emotional support/counselling during her transition?..surely she must have done?


I also wonder if forcing herself on Genuwine wanting him to kiss was might be seen as too close for comfort. He clearly said he wouldn't be interested in a relationship with a transgender and she had to push it that little further. It felt like she was trying to make out he was discriminating when it was simply his own preference and it's very difficult to know the real truth until someone meets someone.
She put Ginuwine in an unfair situation and refused to allow him to have preferences just like we all do If only India could listen to others opinions and take them on board.


Dapper Laughs....? He opens up about the rape joke and then goes into the diary room to say that Johhny will be hanging out of Jess' arse in two weeks time - clearly, he's a changed man. I'm already hating him.
Its horrible that Daniel previously joked about rape and he was an idiot for doing so.. He was winning me round when he explained and showed regret for it, but then all his words came undone when he acted like an idiot in the DR.

He should be more aware of his actions in the house because viewers previously unaware (like me) now know about his controversial jokes and will be watching him more closely.
India said she would give up her bed when the lads came in and then totally goes back on her word. She says she's not ageist, yet behaves in such a selfish way that she comes across exactly that!
India was definitely trying to reflect the blame onto Ann. She reneged on her promise to swap back with Ann once the men arrived, she must forget that the cameras have filmed everything. The other Women didn’t look impressed with her attitude either so she's in danger of eventually being nominated.

I don't like Ann, but she's 70 and Amanda 82, there's a reason why BB put those towels on the single bed.
She’s "not ageist " and yet she told BB in the DR that she thinks Ann is "a miserable old bag with a face like a bag of spanners." :rolleyes:



Wow, Amanda hit Gordon Ramsey on TV .. really? how bizarre.

That was a good scene at the end of the show where Courtney went into the shower and came back out as Shane. I sort of felt disappointed that Courtney had gone :lol: Its going to be interesting to discover what Shane is like.
 
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Both Malika and Courtney shone for me during last nights HL’s.


Yes, and they are making it hard because ultimately I want Maggie to win after all she did for those girls. It would show how much her work is appreciated.

Courtney appears to embrace her identity and India seems to fight against hers.
Yes, that's an excellent analogy. I do understand that India has gone through a very tough life, but that doesn't mean she has to be rude to people. If anything I wish she would use this platform in a more positive way.

Malika was fab when she was telling the guys what their jobs will be, she managed to flatter them whilst explaining why they had been assigned certain chores
She really does come across as the total opposite of what I would expect from someone who has spent years in the company of the Kardashians.

He should be more aware of his actions in the house
he should, but I guess the mask will slip if its there.

The other Women didn’t look impressed with her attitude either so she's in danger of eventually being nominated.
Which is such a shame because if she ends up being evicted, she will probably blame the public for not supporting her.

Wow, Amanda hit Gordon Ramsey on TV .. really? how bizarre.
I love how the women applauded her. I'm finding Amanda such a breath of fresh air and she gives hope to so many that life doesn't stop just because you're getting old.

That was a good scene at the end of the show where Courtney went into the shower and came back out as Shane.
I loved that, if only we had more time to watch how the others interact with Shane/Courtney.

I also liked Shane (Boyzone) talking to Shane/Courtney and asking how he would feel if he slipped up with the names because of the change in appearance.



I like the new banner at the top of the thread, it looks very impressive @Ome :bravo1:


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I wanted to fit in the eye too, but it meant the faces would be too small to see.
 
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