Dallas in the 90's

Ms Southworth

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I like the Donna and Ray stuff. Ray, just forget about Jenna already! And I would like to see Governor Donna.

I'm glad that Bobby and Pam finally found a hotel. While I don't think it's fair to charge it to JR, I will say it was ok to do it if he was actually making it hard for them to get one for so long!

Why is Rebecca asking questions about sex and if she can have alcohol? Has Pam taught her nothing? When I was Rebecca's age, I already knew exactly what sex was, and that children cannot legally consume alcohol in the US. When the kids in this story start talking or asking about sex or innuendos related to it, it's not cute or funny, in my opinion, just awkward. Pam and Bobby should just make Rebecca watch one of those sex-ed videos (from the Children's Television Workshop, I think) that explain exactly what is involved in the process and talks about things related to it, too. It worked for me.

JR is such an ass right now that I frankly don't see why Sue Ellen would even want to marry him again. Children can't express their own opinions or possibly even talk unless an adult says they can? Seriously, WTH? So far, I'm just not buying the JR and Sue Ellen stuff. JR just threw out one of his famous "I'm-sorry-I-was-such-a-jerk-that-never-appreciated-you-and-I-don't-know-how-I-could-have-cheated-on-you-but-I-love-you-and-I-want-us-to-try-it-again-please-come-back-to-me-again" speeches. Yawn. I will be sorely disappointed if this is going to be one of those magic fix fanfics for them where they don't even really discuss exactly why all of the problems happened, and what went through JR's mind before, after, and during each affair, or work on real strategies to solve them. Right now, it just seems so forced and obvious with JR's flirting and how he just keeps bragging that Sue Ellen is back at Southfork to people like she is his trophy wife again, even though she is technically still married to Don Dorkwood. And Sue Ellen is not strong or independent at all with how she just keeps staying at Southfork and whining to JR that she doesn't want to get back together when it's obvious she is just gonna cave anyway. If she really is just in Dallas for John Ross, and either needs more time to think about getting together with JR again, or just doesn't want another relationship with him, then she shouldn't be living at Southfork at all. Personally, I have never understood how anyone found JR and Sue Ellen's first meeting at the pageant romantic. He immediately falls in love with her and decides that he wants to spend the rest of his life with her because she walked differently from the other women. (???) And all in about two minutes without any real conversations or knowledge about her at all. It's like a Disney movie, for god's sake. I know that this is all fiction and that it doesn't have to be realistic, but I personally don't see how they can go back either after Sue Ellen shot JR, and even before that. Not without some serious intensive work for them, that is.
I agree with a lot of the stuff you said, @Presea! :spinning: Therefore, I'll only address the things that I find "questionable", OK?

Over the years, JR has done so much to come between Bobby and Pam for which he has "only" apologized for! :think: JR owes them big time, and it's not too much for him to pay for their accomodation in Houston, even if he didn't have anything to do with the hotel mix-up! :D

Most children know from a very young age that alcolhol beverages are only for adults! However, it doesn't mean that children aren't curious about it! Just last night I was at a birthday party for an 11 year old boy, who asked to get a little taste of his dad's beer. (Apparently, he's tried beer before and likes the taste!). Last night, he got his wish as did his 9 year old sister! Personally, I don't think that there's anything wrong with children getting a sip of alcohol once in a while! I'd rather educate them about the dangers of it at home rather than having them try alcohol in secrecy with their friends! ;) In Karin's fanfic, it was funny that Rebecca asked to taste gin and tonic when neither of her parents were present! Maybe she was just testing JR and Sue Ellen? :D

You may have known what sex was at the age of 7, but it's my firm belief that the majority of children around the world do not! Children at that age may have picked up on how animals reproduce, but the majority of them haven't made the connection to how human beings do it! ;) Also, I'd hope that they learn the term lovemaking first! :innocent: I found the whole sex talk in Karin's fanfic very credible and funny ... all at the same time! :danc: And yes, it can be awkward when children catch you off guard and ask about things that you're not prepared for! But it doesn't matter if it's about sex or something completely different! ;)

After reading your comments about JR and how he "picked up" Miss Texas and swept her off her feet, it does seem like Sue Ellen ended up as his "trophy wife"! Especially since his interest in her faded not long after they tied the knot! :( I have a hard time coming to terms with how Sue Ellen will ever be able to forgive JR for the many, many times he hurt her over the years! It should take a lot more than a bit of sweet talk (like in season 5)! I hope that Karin has come up with a believable story for JR and Sue Ellen! :kiss:
 
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Karin

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Thank you everyone once again for your feedback. I enjoy reading all of your comments. :)

Ms Southworth, actually it was house rules that JR lectured Margaret about. Not dinner rules! :D
I'm glad you liked the latest updates.

I'm glad that you found the sex talk credible and funny. Yeah kids can ask the weirdest questions at the most inappropriate times! :lolo:

Yes Rebecca was definitely testing JR/SE when she asked for the booze. Also Christopher and John Ross started it!
But yeah different parents have different rules about alcohol. Mine never let me drink. But I remember being to a friend's birthday party when I was about 10 and her parents served us cider (with a small percentage of alcohol in it) and we ended up getting very giggly and silly and when I was driving home on my bike I had problems to keep the balance on my bike!

Then as for JR/SE, if you go back to a scene between them in episode two when they talk in the kitchen he reassures her that she was so much more than a trophy wife. Then as for on the show I actually loved their reconciliation after their first divorce since I think it was credible. JR took Sue Ellen for granted and didn't know what he had until she was gone. If you combine that with the fact that his dad died and it made him reevaluate his life I do think it came about in a credible way. :kiss:

Then as for what will happen between JR/SE in this story. All I can say is stay tuned in and you'll find out...

Crazy about SE and JR, I'm glad that you like the way things are going between JR/SE at the moment. :)

Shan, thanks for those emoticons. :)

Presea, I'm glad that you like the Ray & Donna stuff. Then as for Donna, I think the job as Governor would be tailor made for her. ;)
I think why Rebecca asked if she could have a drink was because she wants to be like her mom. Kids takes after their parents and since her mom drinks it she wants to drink it too. Then as for sex, I think some kids knows what it is at age 7 and others don't know until they are a bit older, say about 10. Then as for sex-ed videos for kids. I didn't even know there was such a thing!
Here in Sweden we do have some sexual education at school on two occasions if I remember correctly. The first one when you are about 12 and the second one when you are about 15. It's a part of biology class.

I know JR's house rules sounds like from another century and they are!:eek:
They are actually inspired by what my grandpa's grandpa told him when he was a child. Occasionally I was told the same thing when I was a child but more like "when I was a child the rules were..." that kind of thing. My grandpa grew up in the 1920's and 30's. Since JR was born in 1939 maybe it's not such a far stretch that he would have been told something similar as a child. I don't know why but for some reason I can picture Jock as being sort of strict with the kids.

Then as for JR/SE. They definitely have a lot to learn from their past but I don't think them talking about all affairs is gonna make anything better between them. But no Sue Ellen doesn't want to get back with JR at this point. She has convinced herself that she's staying longer at Southfork for John Ross sake. As for their first meeting, I agree with you, although it's possible to be attracted to someone at first sight, I think it's rare that people actually fall in love at first sight as IMHO to truly love someone you have to know each other better first. :)

Alexia, thanks for the rating, I am glad that you enjoyed the JR/SE scene and them getting closer. :)

Updates will follow in the next post and since you've all been so good with the feedback you'll get a double treat again. :)
 
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Karin

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The next day, in an office building in downtown Houston, Bobby walked into an office room with five men who were sitting in a meeting. “Hello everyone, I’m Bobby Ewing.”

“Hello Mr. Ewing!”

“Nice of you to show,” One of the men said.

“Excuse me?” Bobby looked questioning.

“We almost didn’t think you’d come since you missed all meetings yesterday and the first today!” Another of the men explained.

“Yeah I know, I’m so sorry about that,” Bobby said.

“So any particular reason that you couldn’t come?”

“Actually yes, hotel problems,” Bobby sighed. “Turns out there was something wrong with our hotel reservations and due to the medicine convention in town almost everything was booked. So we spent yesterday looking for a place to stay.”

“That explains it,” one of the men said.

“But what about today then?” Another man asked.

Since Bobby didn’t want to admit that he was late since he had spent the morning making love to Pam he just said, “Well I overslept!”

However one of the men was still not convinced so he said, “Cut the crap Ewing and admit that you hooked up with someone last night!” The other men laughed at that.

“Alright I was held up by a woman, but it’s not what you think,” Bobby smiled.

“Ah so is she someone special?”

“Yeah you can say that, she’s my former wife,” Bobby smiled.

“I don’t get it I thought that your wife died…”

“She did. But I wasn’t talking about April. I meant my first wife Pam…”

“You mean Pamela Barnes?” One of the oil men asked and they all looked surprised.

“Yeah,” Bobby nodded.

“Well what do you know,” one of the men chuckled.

Bobby could see the questions in their eyes. But since he didn’t feel like talking any more about it he said, “Anyway, that’s enough about my private life,” Bobby said, signalizing that he didn’t want to answer any questions. “Now let’s get down to business, word has it your company is for sale?”

“Yes Beck Oil is for sale. So are you interested in buying it?” Mr. Beck asked.

“Yeah that’s what I’m here for,” Bobby smiled. “So why don’t you tell me some more about it and then we’ll see if we can agree on a prize?”

“Sure my daddy founded Beck Oil back in the 1940s. Today the company has…” Mr. Beck and Bobby then went on discussing business.
 

Karin

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Jenna, Charlie, Randy, Ronald and Lucas were having dinner at the Diamond’s hotel’s restaurant. The tension was clear around the table. Randy cleared his throat and said in a strained tone of voice, “So here we are, having dinner together at last!”

“Well I figured it was about time I’d get to know my future in-laws!” Ronald smiled.

Jenna raised an eyebrow in surprise and Charlie said, “No mom. We are not engaged!”

Randy gave Charlie’s hand a little squeeze and said, “At least not yet!”

Charlie pulled away her hand and said, “There’s no rush, I’m just out of college. I need to focus on my career right now!”

“Sounds wise, what do you do?” Ronald asked.

“I’m a High School teacher…” Charlie replied.

Ronald frowned, “Really?”

“Charlie’s fluent in Italian and Spanish dad,” Randy explained.

“Oh well that’s good, maybe you can help us with translating some of our contracts abroad,” Ronald grinned.

“Wow! You have hotels abroad too?” Lucas asked.

“Sure do, you can stay at Diamond’s Hotels in 28 different countries!” Ronald said proudly.

“That’s impressive. I didn’t realize that your hotel chain was that big Randy…” Jenna said.

“Well dad’s been working hard…”

“Yeah when I took over from my father we were only established in eleven countries…” Ronald explained.

“I’ve never heard Randy talk about his grandfather,” Charlie commented.

“Oh that’s because my parents moved to the Bahamas after my father retired,” Ronald explained.

“We are not exactly close…” Randy muttered.

“I see,” Jenna nodded. “So was your dad the one who started the company?”

“No it was my grandfather, back in 1910,” Ronald said proudly. “He was a great man, a true entrepreneur.”

“Interesting,” Jenna replied.

“Randy is named after him,” Ronald said.

“He was called Randy too?” Lucas asked.

“No he must have been called Randall because that’s Randy’s full name,” Charlie replied.

“Exactly,” Randy sighed.

“Randall and Charlotte, it sure sounds different from Randy and Charlie!” Lucas pondered.

The adults’ laughed and Jenna said, “You’re right.”

“You know Randy is going to inherit all this one day so it’s important that he marries well and a good name is the first step,” Ronald remarked.

Charlie and Randy sighed and Jenna looked concerned, before she asked Ronald, “You’re an only child?”

“Oh no, I am not, but I’m the oldest and my little sister Amelia is just a stock holder and my little brother Jacob doesn’t have any sons so…”

Charlie rolled her eyes, “Yeah because we’re still living in a man’s world!”

Ronald however didn’t get her sarcasm as he smiled sincerely and said, “I’m so glad you know that dear, cause then you’ll understand that your most important task in life will be to stand by your man and raise the kids!”

Charlie and Jenna coughed on their drinks, Lucas looked puzzled and Randy looked embarrassed. Charlie and Jenna exchanged a look but since they didn’t want to argue with their host they chose not to say anything more.
 

Ms Southworth

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Great first business meeting in Houston! :) It's nice to know that Pam still has the "magic touch"! :kiss: I'm wondering though why she didn't join Bobby at the meeting? :think: I guess it goes to show that Bobby perhaps was just using business as an excuse when he asked Pam to come with him to Houston! :wink@ And like me, he was probably worried that Pam might not want to leave the children, if the trip was solely for their own personal enjoyment! :dance:

Well, I guess that in many wealthy families, it's still considered "normal" that it's the firstborn son, who is expected to take over and do the family proud by finding a "proper" spouse! I'm not saying that it's right, but I'm just calling it as I see it! I'm somewhat surprised that Randy supposedly hasn't talked about the family history, so Charlie would have been better prepared! On the other hand, I would have thought that she would have been able to put two and two together! If it's Randy that her heart desires, she has to take the whole package! He shouldn't have to feel bad about where he comes from! Neither should she be expected to change to suit his "needs". If their future prospects don't match, maybe they have to give their relationship second thoughts!

On a sidenote, so far in this fanfic, I've interpreted Charlie to be a young lady, who wants to be with Randy no matter what, and who didn't mind "using" his family connections when it came in "handy". But in this update, I'm all of a sudden introduced to a Charlie who appear quite independent and wants to be an respected as an independent woman with an upcoming career of her own! I'm afraid that I just don't get it ... or should I say her! :confuse:

Please update ASAP! :spinning: I wanna know what happens next, especially with, for instance , Ray & Donna, Bobby and Pam, Cliff and Afton, and Miss Ellie and Clayton! It would also be great with an update about the children! :)
 
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Mrs Bobby James Ewing

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Great updates Karin.:) Your story is so much better than TNT's Dallas. :)You are doing an amazing job writing for all of the different characters and couples.:) Please update your story again soon because I can't wait to find out what happens next with everyone in your story. :)
 

Karin

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Thank you everyone for the feedback. :)

Silvie, thanks for the emoticons. :)

Ms Southworth, Pam is going to join Bobby another day for a dinner business meeting. But yeah it was mostly an excuse!
Yeah unfortunately sexism is still alive and well in the world. In fact on the day the current President of the USA was elected I wrote in my diary "And we're still living in a man's world!" :rolleyes:

Anyway I can see why you are confused about Charlie and there's a reason for it. The dinner scene is a new scene. It's written from an adult POV whereas a lot of the other Charlie and Randy scenes are from the original script and were written from a teenage POV. So well maybe if you'll give this "more grown up Charlie" a chance you might come to like her?
Actually when we began revising our story we had to completely erase some of the original Charlie and Randy scenes where Charlie was sneaking out of the house to see Randy in the middle of the night and otherwise acting like a teenager since we realized that's not how a 22 year old would act!
So well the Charlie and Randy stuff is a mixture of old and new stuff and even though we've tried our best to fix some of the earlier scenes sometimes it still shows the original draft is written by teenagers.

Sanda, thank you I am glad you think this story is better than Dallas TNT and that we're doing a good job writing for the different characters and couples. :)

Presea, I agree with you about Ronald. He is so annoying!

Okay so here's another update:


At Cliff’s house, Cliff had just come in through the door when the phone started to ring. He hurried to run over to the phone by the sofa and picked it up just in time. “Hello?”

“Cliff it's Marilee,” Marilee Stone said.

Cliff smiled, “Marilee, how did the lunch with JR go yesterday?”

“Fine, he doesn’t suspect a thing,” Marilee smiled.

“So he’s going to buy my field?”

“Well we haven’t gotten that far yet, he wanted to go through the geological reports first. So I promised I’d send them over, so can you send them to me?”

“Well I think we need someone who can change them first…”

“Why?” Marilee asked. “You said they were good?”

“Yeah but we can’t have JR drill in the same hole as me…”

“True,” Marilee agreed. “That would make him suspicious. I said the field was undeveloped…”

“I see,” Cliff nodded. “Well I have someone change the reports and send them over to you later this week.”

“Good,” Marilee said. “Also I’ve been giving what you said about the Ewing movie a lot of thought.”

“So did you come up with anything?”

“Yeah, we can definitely use that to drag JR through the mud. So I took the liberty of contacting a TV network about an interview and…”

“But Marilee, are you sure that bad mouthing JR on TV is such a good idea?”

“Yeah, why not?”

“Because he’s never gonna wanna do business with you if you bad mouth him in public.”

“Well don’t you think I’m aware of that?” Marilee said sarcastically. “Of course I’m not going to slander him on TV.”

“You’re not?” Cliff asked. “But I thought we had agreed to bring down JR together…”

“We have, just hear me out will you?”

“Alright, what do you have in mind?” Cliff asked.

“Well I called the TV network like I said and it turns out they were more than happy to bring you on the air to talk about JR…”

“Me?” Cliff asked surprised.

“Yeah that’s not a problem, is it?”

“No of course not,” Cliff reassured Marilee.

“Great, then that’s the decided. I’ve arranged for Don Lockwood to call you in…”

“Don Lockwood?” Cliff exclaimed.

“Yeah I believe you two know each other?”

“You mean as in Sue Ellen’s husband?” Cliff sighed.

“Yes of course, or do you know any other person named Don Lockwood?”

“No, I can’t say that I do, but Marilee I can’t stand the guy!”

“I’m sorry to hear that Cliff, because Lockwood’s the perfect choice to collaborate with. I mean he’s the one who released the movie to the public in the first place and he is contracted to promote the movie…”

“What are you saying?”

“I’m saying that if Don doesn’t wanna collaborate with you, you can forget about bad mouthing JR on TV all together and I thought you wanted to make JR the laughing stock in Dallas for sure!”

“Fine, I’ll talk to Lockwood!” Cliff sighed. “So when will he be here?”

“Oh I’m not sure,” Marilee replied. “I think he’ll arrive next week. Well I just wanted to let you know.”

“Thanks Marilee, Toodeloo!” Cliff hung up the phone with a displeased facial expression. Because as much as he hated JR, he never pictured himself teaming up with Don Lockwood to bring him down.
 

Ms Southworth

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Interesting update that leaves me a bit puzzled! :think: I'm sensing that Marilee could be trying to trick Cliff somehow ... ... I can't seem to put my finger on it! ... ... But then again, I could be way off course! :giggle:

Thanks for explaining when the different scenes with the Wades were written! :thank: Well, I'm afraid that h*** will probably have to freeze over, before I'll grow into liking Charlie! :D IMHO, she's not a part of the core cast of Dallas. And quite frankly, I'm indifferent about her and her life! And that goes even if she is Lucas' sister! ;) Sorry, but that's how I feel! :forgive: Of course, I respect the fact that you've chosen to give her a central role in your fanfic, but it doesn't mean that I have to like it! :innocent: Does that make sense? :pals:
Anyway, please update soon! :ping:
 
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Honkytonkangel

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Oh no, not the friends zone. Poor JR. I'm happy he went after Sue Ellen to see if she was ok though.
I love that he apologised again and even though he's done it a thousand times there's a part of me that hopes this time he really DOES mean it.
It was cool to that Sue Ellen apologised too. Though she did a lot less to him.
Still wanting that fatal, accident or fall off the face of the earth for the Wades (can't help it, sorry). Sue
Not looking forward to Don showing up and I hope Sue Ellen puts a stilletto heel in his head (or his balls, not fussed LOL).
Can't wait to see what happens next.
 

Karin

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Thank you for the feedback. :)

Ms. Southworth, it makes sense but it's unfortunate since we like Charlie. Then again I guess maybe you are not as fond of her since the character is slightly younger than you are. For me she was slightly older when I watched the show and growing up it's IMHO always more interesting to look at what the older kids are up to than kids that are younger than yourself!

Why is it so hard to believe that Marilee is actually on Cliff's side?
I mean she did do business with both Cliff and JR on the original show and Cliff worked for her at Stonehurst for a while on the show. Also the last we saw of Marilee if my memory serves me right was when JR left her in the pool looking angry since he stood her up.

Honkytonkangel, I'm glad you enjoyed the JR/SE scene. Also I think everyone knows that JR/SE can't be just friends. There's too much history between the two of them and lingering feelings for that to ever work! ;)
I can see why you are not looking forward to Don showing up. But oh well you'll just have to wait and see how it goes when he and Sue Ellen meets again. It won't actually be for a while yet...

Anyway here's an update:

Later that night in Houston, the fog had starting to roll in over the deserted cemetery, as Pam puts down a ring of flowers on her mother’s grave. She then drew her fingers over the name inscribed in the stone that read Rebecca Wentworth and started talking emotionally. “Mama, I’m so sorry I didn’t come here earlier. Everything just got to be such a mess after you died.” Pam choked up, as she tried to push the memory out of her mind. “All I knew was that I had to get away from the Barnes-Ewing feud. So I left Bobby. I know that was not the smartest thing to do. He is a good man and you liked him.” Pam paused, as it was so hard to talk to her dead mother. But since she needed to get this off her chest and she believed her mother could hear her she went on. “I’m sorry mama, I’ve messed up. I tried to look after Katherine and Cliff like you asked me to. But I failed.” Pam had to stop as the tears started to well up in her eyes and it was hard to speak. “Don’t blame me, it was just too hard, I love Cliff but he can be so self-centered and Katherine…I’m sorry to say it, but she just lost it when you died…” Pam sobbed. “The last couple of years have been so hard. I was in a car crash and it changed me. I’m ashamed to say I didn’t handle things any better than you did. I left my son. I left my brother…I just ran away from it all.” Pam stopped, as she tried to dry off her tears. “I never thought I could have it back. But I could. I feel like my life is finally coming together again. You see, I’m back at Southfork and Bobby and I have gotten a daughter that I’ve named after you.” Pam smiled. “So you’re a grandma again, I know you would have been so proud. Oh and Cliff and Afton’s got a daughter too. Afton named her after you and me. They call her Becky. We miss you…Bye mama!” Pam got up and turned around.

She then walked over to Bobby, who was standing there waiting a little bit further away. Seeing the tears on her cheeks he took her into his arms and asked, “Are you ok?”

“Yeah I will be,” Pam replied. “It was just hard to visit mama’s grave. I've missed so much time with her…”

“I know that honey,” Bobby said, as he stroke Pam’s hair gently. “Maybe it wasn’t such a good idea to come here.”

“No I needed to come here!”

“I know, but maybe this wasn’t the right hour to go here. I mean it’s late and I’m freezing.”

“Stop whining, it was your idea that we should go visit my mama’s grave!”

“I know that but I thought that we would do it before the sun set!”

“So did I, but it’s not my fault it took forever for you to finish those meetings. Besides I am glad that we went tonight. I needed to get this off my chest. It felt good talking to Mama.”

“Well I am glad, so can we leave now?”

“Yeah,” Pam nodded and they started to walk away. But after a few steps a sound startled them and they stopped. “Did you hear that?” Pam asked in a frightened voice.

“What?” Bobby asked.

“I thought I heard something!”

“Relax it was probably just the wind,” Bobby tried to calm down Pam.

“It didn’t sound like the wind.”

“What was it then?”

“I don’t know, but this place scares me!”

“Honey, there’s nothing to be afraid of!” Bobby tried to reassure Pam.

“I know that, it’s just that…can you hold me again?”

“Okay but just for a few minutes, then we really need to get out of here!” Bobby put his arms around Pam. “Better?”

“Yeah” Pam smiled, as she looked up into Bobby’s hazel brown eyes. Bobby then leant down and kissed Pam, who kissed him back. Soon they were so wrapped up in each other’s arms that they didn’t notice the woman who came walking down the gravel path a bit further away.

But she noticed them and when she spotted them, she stopped dead in her tracks. So you’ve found him again. Who could have guessed? The woman thought bitterly to herself, as she pulled down her black hat to cover up her face. Well you’re happiness won’t last long sister dear, I’ll make sure of that! Katherine’s eyes gleamed in the night…


To be continued…
 

Ms Southworth

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Oh no, was this the last scene in this episode? :eek: Is that what "to be continued" means? I would have thought that the final scene in this episode would have included Randy, hence the episode titel! :think:

Anyway, overall it was a wonderful update from Houston! :bravo: Beautifully written scene with Pam visiting Rebecca's last resting place. :fantastic:I loved Pam's talk with her mom and also the way Bobby supported her all the way through! :kiss: But once Pam said that she heard a strange noice, I just instantly knew that it had something to do with Katherine! :frustration: I'm looking forward to hearing what Katherine's been up to over the years and her reasons for being in Houston! :box: And I'm a bit worrried that she'll end up creating trouble for Bobby and Pam! :(

PLEASE UPDATE SOON! :best: No more than a week off, pretty please??? :jolly:

PS. In regards to your comments, @Karin Schill, I truly hope that Marilee is sincere towards Cliff. Honestly, I would hate if Marilee somehow double-crossed him! I do remember that they did work well together in the glory years of "Dallas". And it would be great to get to experience it again! :yep: But like I said, I somehow read between the lines that perhaps Marilee is up to something! One thing that popped up was that perhaps she had teamed up with somebody else that we have yet to hear about, for instance JR??? :( Let's hope that it's just my vivid imagination that's getting the better of me! :D
 

Presea

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I feel so sorry for Pam. Visiting the grave like that was not easy. Small correction to one of her lines, though. During the her deathbed scene in Requiem, Rebecca never asked Pam to take care of Katherine, only Cliff. Hell, she didn't remember Katherine until Pam told her she was coming from New York. Rebecca then simply muttered "poor baby", before launching into a passionate speech about Pam and (mostly) Cliff. This isn't to say that Pam didn't try anyway, but still. As for the rest...sigh. I do feel sorry for Katherine, but I wish she would just stop obsessing over Bobby already. He is not worth her time, and she can do far better for herself. But so far, this just looks like another generic "evil Katherine" plot, so sadly, I'm not holding out much hope for a happy ending for her. And when I say happy ending, I do NOT mean one with Bobby. But hey, maybe you will surprise me. Who knows? I hope that Pam can get Katherine some help and/or really talk things out with her so that they can understand both sides here.
 

Ray&Donna

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One thing that always bothered me was, how in the final years of the show, Marilee was wasted on useless stories like fooling with Casey Denault, or she would show up and J.R. would tells James that she was Vampira. Like, she was a savvy businesswoman--they didn't need to make her the butt of jokes.

As much as I dislike Charlie, I can more easily read about her than, say, Carmen the maid or Judith Ryland. :eck:
 

Karin

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Thank you everyone for your feedback. It's as always appreciated. :site:

Ms Southworth, yes you've got it. That scene concluded episode five and since Randy won't be at the center of the storyline in the next episode it's really not necessary for the episode to end with him! ;)

I'm glad you enjoyed the Bobby and Pam scene with Katherine showing up. You'll find out in the next episode what she has been up to lately and what schemes she's up to...
Then as for Marilee you'll get to meet her new business partners in the next episode as well...

Also I guess a short review of the whole episode won't happen this time around? :cool1
Anyway it's soon been a week now and it's been good to have some time off I must say. :D

Presea, you are right that visiting her mother's grave wasn't easy for Pam. But naturally that is the perfect spot for her and Katherine's paths to cross again as she was the link that bond them together. Then as for Rebecca Wentworth's death scene, I am sure you are right that Rebecca only asked Pam to look after Cliff, but well it all happened over 10 years ago and Pam was an emotional mess at the time, so isn't it possible that she remembers it wrong?

Anyway for the sake of this story she remembers it like her mother asked her to look after Katherine as well and Pam's feeling a bit guilty about failing with that!

Then as for where we'll go with the Katherine plot, I hope we'll surprise you as we have tried to redeem her character. But well considering where the original show left her our options are sort of limited from the get go. Anyway the next episode will shed some light on Katherine's situation and we have tried to write things from her POV as well.

Tommie, I am glad that you like the character of Marilee. You are right that she was a woman in a man's world and she tried to play the men's game in mixing business with pleasure and she did became the butt of jokes because of it. She will still add some comic relief in this story but we've tried to add some more layers to her character too, as she is once again married and happy. So she's in a better place in her life than she was after she was widowed on the original show.

I'm glad you prefer Charlie to Judith Ryland and Carmen! :D

So what about the rest of you, are you all caught up and ready for another episode? :popcorn:
 

Presea

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I do see your point about the Requiem scene. Even though Rebecca did not ask Pam to also look after Katherine, one could imagine that Pam just believed Rebecca had wished for it anyway. As for the rest, all I am really asking is that you don't just have Katherine end up in jail or dead like almost every other fic I've read. I'm not saying that I expect them all to be best buddies and reconcile, but I just think that continuing with the whole evil-sister-with-a-never-ending-thirst-for-revenge-and-won't-quit-till-she-is-forced-to-stop things is ridiculous and unrealistic when you consider the fact that Katherine obviously gave up and moved on in the show. And I don't buy the whole Katherine-can-only-be-sane-as-long-as-Bobby-doesn't-get-married thing that I've seen other writers make up, and that she somehow helped that Sheila/Hillary, whatever her name was, kill April. Especially since there is no evidence of that on the show. I don't why so many writers feel like Katherine ALWAYS has to continue with the Pam and Bobby thing. Sure, she might still resent what happened or hate people, but there is no law that says she has to be evil or crazy forever. I mean, we all KNOW that Bobby and Pam will just win anyway, so what is the point to it? On the other hand, I would be genuinely shocked if I read something where she killed them or got together with Bobby (Ew). But putting that aside, the lack of imagination that I have seen when it comes to writing her character is truly mind-boggling.

But like I said earlier, I don't know what you're going to write, so I can't really assume anything. And I am looking forward to how you do Katherine's POV, since most of the fics I've read with her don't even give her one.
 
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