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Dallas in the 90's

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Ms Southworth, I'm sorry the proposal didn't happen the way you had imagined it would. But well the bottom line is that they are engaged to be married once more. It's the third time they get engaged to each other so does it really matter how the proposal is done?

I know some people think a romantic proposal is very important. But others doesn't really care how it's done as what's important is finding that special someone that you will spend the rest of your life with. Oh well at least this scene has been readjusted a bit from the original draft where he did get down on one knee and popped the question but she didn't get a chance to answer before they were interrupted by JR's phonecall! :lolo:
I think we can agree on that that was worse...
In a primetime soap opera like "Dallas", yes, it does matter how a proposal is done! To me it does anyway, as I'm a romantic when it comes to fictional storylines! And I had just expected something completely different for Bobby and Pam than what you gave us! :( In real life, I'm not romantic in the same way! ;)

LOL ... I'm not sure that I can agree that the original draft was worse! :lol: Let's just say that neither versions were great! :giggle:
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Great scene from the Southfork living room! :spinning:

LOL ... I can just hear Sue Ellen in my head: “You know damn well that I don’t drink anymore and from the looks of it neither should you!” :dance: (I don't remember Sue Ellen cursing in the 70'-80's though, but maybe that's just me! :confused:)

Oh, I wanna puke over JR who like to read into everything Sue Ellen says to him:)rolleyes:): “Oh how sweet you’re concerned about me,” he said sarcastically. And just a couple of seconds later, he goes on :)rolleyes:): “Sure it’s a fine idea, so will you join me [in bed]?”

Drunk or not drunk. there is no excuse for acting like that, especially with his own mother present! :eek: ... ... I'd love to know what Miss Ellie was thinking about her eldest son! :giggle:

Either way, you wrote JR to perfection, Karin & Jenny! :yep:

Cute and funny dialogue with Lucy/Mitch and Rebecca/Margaret! :) I love Rebecca's directness: “You haven’t read [Margaret's book] yet huh?” :lolo:

And I chuckled when Rebecca said: “That’s strange, why are they going to bed now?” Rebecca frowned. “I mean it’s only 8.30.” rotf
More priceless dialogue, this time with Rebecca and Miss Eillie: :lolling:
  • “Rebecca! Who told you about sex?” Miss Ellie asked surprised.
  • “Oh uncle JR and Aunt Sue Ellen did the other night when we had dinner,” Rebecca replied
  • “Really?” Miss Ellie gave JR and Sue Ellen a disapproving look.

I have a strong feeling that Rebecca will talk again about "marriage" and "babies" when her parents share their news! :wink@

Perfect closing remark from a strong-willed Sue Ellen to JR: “Hell will be freezing over before I’ll ever return to your bed!” :loveit:
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Honkytonkangel, well I can see why Pam's behavior might get on your nerves but I think she is entitled to be a little jealous. Yes she left Bobby but well in this story it was because she was pregnant with his baby. So the idea that he might be moving on with some other woman while she was risking her life to have their baby must be a bit unsettling to her. So I can understand her reaction and jealousy.
I agree. Pam's jealousy is understandable! But the way she handled herself here was uncalled for, IMO!
Sanda, interesting opinion that Chris and Rebecca should have been there for the proposal. Somehow I doubt that's what @Ms Southworth had in mind for a romantic proposal...
So it seems like you all have your own visions of what the perfect proposal should have been like and neither one of you got what you wanted. :(
Oh well as for Chris and Rebecca they might have missed out on the proposal but at least they won't miss out on the wedding... ;)
You're right, @Karin Schill! :gotcha: Sorry, @Mrs Bobby James Ewing! :embarrass:

Even though I don't have a clear vision of how a marriage proposal should have taken place here, Christopher and Rebecca would most likely not be part of it! To me, a proposal is a special moment between two adults in love! :kiss:

Just for the record, I'd be indifferent to whether it was Bobby or Pam who had popped the question! I'm not oldfashioned in that regard! :wink@
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Great update from Lucy and Mitch's bedroom! :jolly:

LOL ... I loved Mitch's comment about Mario: “Yeah well he even makes Cliff Barnes looks good,” Mitch sighed. :lolo:

And I'll keep my fingers crossed that Lucy is right: “Well let’s just hope she’ll come to her senses before it’s too late!” :yep:

Let's hope that the newly weds' evening ended with some "baby making"! :kiss::kiss::kiss:
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Terrific update about Bobby and Pam's homecoming! :dance:

Yikes, having to wait three hours for the fog to lift was a complete waste of time! :mad: They'd been better off just going back to the hotel and catch an early flight instead! After all, it's only a short flight from Houston to Dallas! ;)

From the very second that I read about Bobby and Pam's engagement and now about how very happy they both are, I've had a feeling that something is up! Their bliss is about to be tested, not only by Jenna and Lucas, but also by someone from Pam's past! :(
You all get a good night's rest, because all h*** is about to break loose! :cry:

Please update soon! :bowing I wanna know what happens next! :best:
 

Karin

Moderator
Staff Member
Thank you everyone for the feedback. It's much appreciated as always. :)

Also tonight I want to ask you all a favor. I was wondering if everyone who is reading this story who hasn't rated the very first post in the thread could please go back and do so?
I would appreciate it if you could do that. :thank:

Pammy, I am glad that you thought we had captured Bobby and Pam well in the last scene. :)

Ms Southworth, I think Sue Ellen occasionally cursed on the show too, at least when arguing with JR or when being very angry. But I could remember it wrong.

Honestly I think Miss Ellie was probably embarrassed about JR's drunken behavior. I guess she's more used to expect drunk behavior from Sue Ellen. :(
Anyway I am glad you think we wrote JR to perfection.

In a primetime soap opera like "Dallas", yes, it does matter how a proposal is done! To me it does anyway, as I'm a romantic when it comes to fictional storylines! And I had just expected something completely different for Bobby and Pam than what you gave us! :( In real life, I'm not romantic in the same way! ;)

Good point. I guess we do expect a bit more romance from the soaps we watch on TV or romance novels we read. I'll keep that in mind from now on. ;)
And yeah I guess traditionally most people got married before they had kids so for kids to experience their parents wedding and engagement was pretty unusual. These days it's more and more common that people get married before they have kids though...

I know what you mean. It's only about 4 hours drive up from Houston to Dallas so it would almost have gone faster to drive home than to wait for the fog to lift!

Then as for Bobby and Pam. Yeah they are happy right now and naturally there will be bumps in the road, otherwise it wouldn't be a soap, would it?
Anyway I won't tell you whether your predictions are accurate or not. You will just have to wait and see! ;)

Okay so update time:


John Ross was still fast asleep when Sue Ellen entered his room the next morning. She hesitated for a moment before she decided that his sulking needed to end. So she firmly walked up to his bed and said, “John Ross?”

“Just five more minutes Mama,” John Ross mumbled, as he was still half asleep.

“No you need to get up your grandma wants us to have a family meeting over breakfast,” Sue Ellen informed John Ross.

That sentence made John Ross snap out of his dream and as he sat up for a moment he was a little disorientated, as when he slept he had forgotten that he was back at Southfork. But now it all came flooding back to him. John Ross grimaced, as he remembered his failed date with Melissa two days ago. “I’m not hungry,” John Ross said, as he tried to pull the quilt back over his head.

“I know John Ross, why won’t you talk to me?” Sue Ellen asked, as she sat down on the edge of his bed and pulled back the quilt from John Ross’s face.

“I don’t wanna talk about it,” John Ross said grumpily.

“Well I do so you’d better listen,” Sue Ellen insisted. “I know you’ve been through a lot John Ross and that you’re bummed that things didn’t turn out the way you wanted them to with Melissa. But you’ve been brooding for over a day on your room. So what’s wrong?” Sue Ellen asked. However John Ross looked away refusing to answer her. So Sue Ellen decided to change tactics. “Look John Ross I know it can’t be easy for you to be back at Southfork after so many years in England but…”

“Wrong mama, it’s you who are having a hard time to adapt to being back here, not I,” John Ross took the bait and finally started to open up.

“I don’t believe you,” Sue Ellen replied. “I mean can you honestly tell me that you are not a little disappointed that your dad has spent more time with your cousins than you since we’ve been back?”

“Alright so maybe I am a little jealous,” John Ross admitted. “I mean I thought he’d take me to the office but so far he hasn’t had the time.”

“That’s not true,” Sue Ellen shook her head.

“What do you mean?”

“Your dad has been dying to take you to the office ever since you’ve returned but he hasn’t been able to because you’ve been grounded,” Sue Ellen told John Ross.

“Really?” John Ross perked up from the sound of that.

“Yeah I bet if you’ll stop feeling sorry for yourself and come down to breakfast now your daddy will be happy to bring you to the office today.”

“That would be great,” John Ross smiled. “But what about my grounding?”

“Oh I’m sure you’re school work can wait until tomorrow,” Sue Ellen smiled.

“Thanks mama,” John Ross grinned. “But are you sure dad will take me to the office?”

“Positive,” Sue Ellen smiled. “I know he’s been longing to spend some time with you,” Sue Ellen paused before adding. “We both have, so why don’t the three of us have lunch together today, as a family?”

“So I can listen to the two of you arguing, no thanks,” John Ross sneered.

“I know it’s not easy for you when we argue. But your dad and I doesn’t argue all the time, sometimes we really enjoy each other’s company too,” Sue Ellen said. “I promise we’ll be on our best behavior.”

“Like you were when Melissa was here?”

“What’s that supposed to mean?”

“Nothing, it’s just that I really liked Melissa and I guess it’s easier to blame you for ruining my date than admitting that it was my own fault,” John Ross sighed.

“Yeah you were moving too fast. Not all girls are easy.”

“I know,” John Ross sighed. “I guess I was coming on a bit too strong.”

“You were,” Sue Ellen agreed. “But if you really like this girl, why don’t you give her a call and apologize?”

John Ross looked dumbstruck at his mother, “What good would that do?”

“Well I think she liked you too, so maybe if you apologized she’d agreed to go out on another date.”

“Maybe but there’s no use, I don’t have her phone number.”

“Well how about looking it up in the phone book?”

“I don’t know her last name,” John Ross replied.

“It’s Adams,” Sue Ellen informed John Ross. “Her mother’s name is Nancy.”

John Ross looked surprised. “How do you know that?”

“I met her when she dropped off Melissa. She was very nice, she told me Melissa’s not that used to dating.”

John Ross made a face. “Ouch, I didn’t realize that.”

“I figured you wouldn’t. So am I going to help you look up her number or not?”

“Thanks mama, I know you mean well. But I’d rather not call her,” John Ross sighed. “I mean sure I liked her but there’s gotta be other girls out there, right?”

“True, but I haven’t seen you brood in your room for over a day for any other girls before. Unless your brooding doesn’t have anything to do with her that is?” Sue Ellen raised an eyebrow but John Ross still said nothing so she went on. “So you wanna tell me the real reason why you’re moping?”

“Why did you have to make that dumb movie about my daddy?” John Ross asked.

Sue Ellen sighed, “You’re upset about the movie?”

“Damn right I am,” John Ross replied. “So why did you do it?”

“Because I was hurt,” Sue Ellen replied. “I loved your dad a lot but he kept breaking his promises to me. So I was bitter when our marriage ended and I wanted to hurt him back,” Sue Ellen paused for a moment. “John Ross you’ve got to believe me, that movie was meant for your dad’s eyes only. I had never planned to release it to the public and I certainly never meant to hurt you or anyone else in your family with it.”

“And yet you did.”

“Yes but I hurt myself too, since I hurt when you hurt,” Sue Ellen said. “I am so mad at Don for releasing the movie behind my back. I wish I could have it undone but I can’t.”

“So you’re not going back to England with him then?” John Ross asked in a hopeful voice.

“I don’t think so,” Sue Ellen replied.

“So are you going to divorce Don?”

“I am not sure. I mean I need to talk to him first.”

“But you are thinking about it?”

“Yes would you be sad if I did?”

“Sad?” John Ross laughed. “No way, the man doesn’t exactly understand teenagers, so it’s not like we’re close.” Sue Ellen nodded sadly and seeing the sadness in her hazel eyes John Ross went on, “I’m sorry if that makes you sad mama, but he’s just my step-dad, so it’s not like he could ever take dad’s place.”

“I know what you mean,” Sue Ellen sighed.

“You still love him don’t you?”

“Don?”

“No my dad,” John Ross replied.

Sue Ellen felt like a deer caught in headlights, “Where did you get that kind of idea from?” She dodged the question.

“Oh nowhere really, it’s just that I think dad still loves you…”

“He’s told you that?” Sue Ellen asked suspiciously.

“He doesn’t have to, it’s obvious from the way he looks at you,” John Ross said.

Sue Ellen could feel her heart skip a beat from that notion. But since she didn’t want to go back to JR or give her son any false hope she hurried to nip it in the bud. “John Ross, I want to make something very clear to you. I might divorce Don and it’s possible that I’ll stay here at Southfork for a while until I find my own house here in Dallas. But even if I do, I don’t want you to read too much into it. Because whatever was between your father and me is over, we are never getting back together again,” Sue Ellen said seriously. “You do understand that, don’t you?”

“Yes,” John Ross nodded.

“Good now when we’ve got that out of the way. How about going down to breakfast?” Sue Ellen said, as she stood up.

“Sure I’m starving.”

“I thought you weren’t hungry?”

“Well what can I say, I suddenly regained my appetite,” John Ross grinned.

“That’s great,” Sue Ellen replied. “So I’ll see you at breakfast?”

“Yeah I’m just gonna get dressed first,” John Ross replied and Sue Ellen started to leave. But before she reached the door John Ross added. “Oh and Mama?”

“Yeah?”

“I’ve changed my mind about lunch. I think it would be nice to spend some time together with both my parents after all,” John Ross gave Sue Ellen his best shit eating grin and in that moment he looked so much like his father that Sue Ellen just knew that he was up to something…
 

Presea

Telly Talk Addict
Good updates, but there are two things that are seriously weird: 1. I cringe whenever I read a line about Sue Ellen's heart skipping a beat. This sounds like something that belongs to a teenager having her first crush in a YA fiction novel, not how an almost or near 50 year-old woman would react to a guy, especially a guy that she was in multiple abusive marriages with. What's next, butterflies in her stomach!? Lol. 2. What is it with this "shit-eating grin" that you continue to mention? No offense, but it actually just sounds more sleazy and disturbing than how I imagine JR's signature evil grin to be. And now John Ross is doing it, too. Please tell me that Sue Ellen is not dim enough (although it wouldn't surprise me if she was) to have not realized that their son is trying to get them back together again!? But I do hope that she and JR will actually use that dinner date that Miss Ellie pushed on Sue Ellen to actually talk about their problems from the past and to make a real plan on how to solve them.
 

Miss Texas 1967

Telly Talk Addict
Caught up again :)

Page 58 it should be air dirty laundry, not wash. That was probably just lost in translation.

Wasn't Lucy also involved in the making of the movie?

I'm glad the family are going to have a dinner together, I hope they actually talk though, don't just use the opportunity to play a part for the public.

Eye roll, Jenna and Charlie telling Lucas to keep a low profile.

Mario is a jerk, Afton has bad taste in men.

It's completely unreasonable for Pam to be jealous of Kay and angry at Bobby for moving on so quickly, Bobby was right, she left him. I'm not quite sure Pam really gets how much her actions affected everyone.

The engagement happend quickly but at the same time they basically act married, like they've picked up where they left off (almost too quickly at times), so why not be married again? As for the actual proposal though, not what I'd call romantic or planned, but Pam did set up the situation and Bobby did just respond to the directive, so it's a product of the context. I'd be more bothered if Bobby was considering asking first and then decided that was the best option.

Sue Ellen is in a sticky situation with JR, she's physically attracted to him and she's been deprived of sex lately (deprived is terrible adjective to use but it sounds nice and dramatic for my point here lol) so I can see why on some level she'd be interested, even if it was just for temporary satisfaction (like in season 7). Throw into the mix that she understands his pain when it comes to Cliff, I can understand her warming to him. On every other level though she really needs to start thinking and doing. She's right, she's married, even if it is to Don and she is angry with him, but even without that to morally guide her actions, allowing herself to be vulnerable with JR before actually working on their relationship probably isn't a good idea, nor is even considering a romantic relationship with him.

I predict with all of Rebecca's sex talk she'll end up like teen Lucy lol

Now that Bobby and Pam are back can they start spending time with their children? Apart from that one day out for pizza (from my memory, might be incorrect) Christopher has yet to really spend time with Pam. Rebecca is more integrated but still, she also needs her parents. I'm sure JR will be thrilled to be off butler duty too lol.

Sue Ellen is a ditz if she doesn't see that John Ross is trying to set her and JR up with each other.

What is wrong with John Ross? He's a jerk if he pursued Melissa and then is no longer interested in her after finding out that she's not an easy lay. He wouldn't even phone her to apologise for his behaviour, his response was simply to say there are other girls. Bruised ego or not, that's a jerky response, it sounds like he was literally just interested in getting her into bed. He may be JR's son, but JR must have had some charm and manners back in the day if he managed to date and keep the virgin Sue Ellen. John Ross will have sex if he wants to, he probably already does, and JR and Sue Ellen don't have to be angry about that as long as he's being safe and respectful, but the minute he starts to act like this I'd be having a stern word with him about respect if I were them.

Anyway, back to the John Ross and Sue Ellen conversation, I wish Sue Ellen would take some of her points about JR and actually act on them. As in, I like that she seems to be intentional and clear about maybe divorcing Don, but it's not because she wants to get back together with JR, and I like that she has committed to speaking with him and seems to want to work on things between them, but much like with her wishy-washy response to actually doing anything about Don and the movie, I wish she would actually get the ball rolling with JR. Getting him alone in seclusion is a no-no for them at the moment, but they do need to talk, so getting them alone in a public (ish) space is a good idea. They need to talk if they are going to get anywhere. Sue Ellen needs to see a lawyer, it might pay for JR to do so too. Then they both need to talk like adults if they're going to get anywhere and ever stop getting snippy with each other during family gatherings.

As for JR and John Ross, I'm glad there will be some time for them to be together :)

I have to agree with @Presea too, smug grin, smirk, or even simply grin might be better terms to use.
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
And yeah I guess traditionally most people got married before they had kids so for kids to experience their parents wedding and engagement was pretty unusual. These days it's more and more common that people get married before they have kids though...
You meant to say that nowadays couples often have children before they get married, right? :think:
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Great scene with Sue Ellen and John Ross! :dance:

I'm glad that Sue Ellen finally grabbed the bull by its horns. :clap: A conversation with her son that was long overdue! :) Sue Ellen showed a lot of great motherhood skills here, and I applaud her! :dance:

Interesting to learn that John Ross had forgotten that it was his grounding (due to uncompleted school assignments) that stood in the way of him joining his dad at Ewing Oil!

I was thrilled to learn that John Ross was taking on responsibility for the ruined date with Melissa! :cooler: Even though there is no excuse for his parents' behavior, it was John Ross' own doing that ended the date rather rapidly! ;)

However, I was disappointed that John Ross didn't even want to call Melissa to apologize!!! :mo: He didn't even have to ask her out again. He could just apologize!!! :mad:

I loved the way Sue Ellen described why she made the movie! Very honest and upfront! :clap:

I had to roll my eyes at Sue Ellen when she said: :rolleyes:
“Because whatever was between your father and me is over, we are never getting back together again”!
Who is she trying to fool??? :D I will not be fooled when it comes to those two (although I suspect that it's only in primetime soap operas that couples with as much "baggage" as JR and Sue Ellen end up together in the end). :giggle:

Please update soon! :best:
 

Karin

Moderator
Staff Member
Thank you everyone for the detailed feedback on my story. I always enjoy reading all of your comments. :)

Good updates, but there are two things that are seriously weird: 1. I cringe whenever I read a line about Sue Ellen's heart skipping a beat. This sounds like something that belongs to a teenager having her first crush in a YA fiction novel, not how an almost or near 50 year-old woman would react to a guy, especially a guy that she was in multiple abusive marriages with. What's next, butterflies in her stomach!? Lol.

You make a very good point Presea. I guess the problem is that since I am much younger than Sue Ellen, even the age she is in this story which is 48, I don't particularly know how a woman her age feels when it comes to love. I mean does love feel the same at all ages or does the feelings change as you grow older?

It's simply impossible for me to know as I don't have that life experience. What I do know however is that certain things does feel different as you grow older. For instance I am in my 30's and I was on a roller coaster for the first time in 15 years earlier this month and well I hadn't been on that particular roller coaster since I was 13 and well I found the experience to be much different as I remember having more of a thrill and feeling of excitement in my stomach when I was 13 than I did now.

Even with love I find it's somewhat different from how it was when I was a teenager, as the emotions seemed to be more intense back then. At least that's the way I remember it. But it is possible to still get butterflies in my stomach at my age. So maybe it's still possible to feel that way when you are in your late 40's too.

Then as for John Ross and JR's shit eating grins. I think I picked up that expression from some friends from the board many years ago. They are Americans and they used the expression in relation to JR and John Ross so I figured it was an okay description for their smiles. Ironically though in the first draft of the story JR's smile is simply referred to as his evil grin.

Of course Sue Ellen knows John Ross wants her to get back together with JR. That's why she tried to set the record straight and told him that it would never happen.

Miss Texas 1967,
yes it's been lost in translation as in Swedish language the expression is wash not air. :giggle:
Yeah Lucy was involved in making the movie too. She spoke with Don and also helped with the casting of Mitch.

Good point about Bobby and Pam acting like they were still married already. So it makes sense for them to make it legal again.

Your analysis of Sue Ellen and her feelings for JR are spot on. That's exactly like it is. Except I think a part of her has never stopped loving him even. So it's not just a physical thing.

I think you'll be happy to read that Bobby and Pam will spend more time with their kids from now on... :)
And yeah JR sure is happy to be off butler duty! :rlol:

John Ross is a teenager, but yeah I agree with you that he is acting like a total jerk when it comes to Melissa. :(

Ms Southworth, yeah that's what I meant. Most of my friends have kids by now and only a few of them are married. So I think society has really changed that way as if you go back a generation I think most people got married before they had kids.

I'm glad you liked Sue Ellen and John Ross conversation. I think the reason John Ross doesn't want to call Melissa and apologize is because he doesn't think it will accomplish anything since he realizes that he's blown it with her.

Good point about JR/SE. Luckily in real life couples that are that dysfunctional do end up getting divorced and staying divorced in most cases. But well since it's a soap opera of course we want a happy ending for JR/SE. ;)

Okay so now it's time for another update:



Bobby and Pam’s were still asleep when the door suddenly flung open and into the room ran Rebecca. “Yeah you’re back!” Rebecca screamed happily as she jumped up into her parents’ bed and started to shake them to wake them up.

“Rebecca what are you doing up so early?” Pam asked.

“It’s not early. Everyone else is already at the breakfast table, so grandma sent me up to fetch you,” Rebecca smiled happily.

“She did now, did she?” Bobby sighed.

“Yes, so have you missed me?”

“Yeah I’ve missed you lots, come here so I can give you a hug,” Pam smiled.

“Sure mommy, I’ve missed you too,” Rebecca replied, as she hugged Pam. “You too daddy,” Rebecca said as she gave Bobby a hug too.

“So did you have a good time when we were away?” Pam asked.

“Yes, I’ve had a great time,” Rebecca smiled. “I have a great family here at Southfork, just like you said I did mommy.”

“That’s great. I knew you’d like them.”

“I do, especially Margaret and Uncle JR.”

“Uncle JR?” Pam asked surprised.

“Yeah he’s been so kind to me when you’ve been away. He took Margaret and me to see Pocahontas at the movies, he taught me how to swim and he took me riding and showed me your old tree house daddy!” Rebecca smiled happily.

“That’s great,” Bobby smiled uneasily, “Strange but great.”

“I don’t believe it. That doesn’t sound like JR at all,” Pam said confused.

“Well he can be nice, but I am a bit surprised too,” Bobby replied.

“Yeah, are you sure we’re talking about the same uncle JR?” Pam said skeptically.

“Of course,” Rebecca nodded.

“So it sounds like you two really have had some time to bond when we were away?”

“Yeah,” Rebecca smiled. “Oh and Aunt Sue Ellen’s been great too, she tucked me in and read me bedtime stories and so has grandma and cousin Lucy took us roller skating.”

“That’s great, so I take it you really like it here at Southfork then?” Bobby asked.

“Yeah I love it here!” Rebecca beamed.

“So you wouldn’t be sad if we were to stay here after the summer’s over then?” Pam asked.

“What do you mean?”

“I mean if we moved here and lived here instead of in Los Angeles,” Pam elaborated.

“Does that mean I’ll never see my things at home again?” Rebecca asked.

“No we’ll move your things here,” Pam replied.

“But what about my friends?” Rebecca asked.

“You won’t see them as much, but you could write e-mails to each other or talk on the phone and go visit each other,” Bobby said.

“Yeah and we’d all live here as a family, you, me, Christopher and your daddy,” Pam said.

“Would you like that?” Bobby asked.

“Does that mean I’ll get to see you every day?” Rebecca asked.

“Yes and the rest of my family too,” Bobby confirmed.

“Well if that’s so, I’d like that very much,” Rebecca smiled.

“Good then it’s decided. We’ll all live here at Southfork,” Pam smiled and gave Bobby a knowing glance. He just smiled back at her, as she had been right that Rebecca would be thrilled with the news. Yet Bobby couldn’t help but worrying a little that Chris might not take the news as well…
 
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Mrs Bobby James Ewing

Telly Talk Well-Known Member
Great updates Karin. :)I am so happy that Bobby and Pam are finally home from their business trip to Houston and that Rebecca is happy that her parents are getting married. :) I hope Christopher takes the news of his parents remarriage as well as his sister Rebecca took the news. :)
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
You make a very good point Presea. I guess the problem is that since I am much younger than Sue Ellen, even the age she is in this story which is 48, I don't particularly know how a woman her age feels when it comes to love. I mean does love feel the same at all ages or does the feelings change as you grow older?

It's simply impossible for me to know as I don't have that life experience. What I do know however is that certain things does feel different as you grow older. ... ...

Even with love I find it's somewhat different from how it was when I was a teenager, as the emotions seemed to be more intense back then. At least that's the way I remember it. But it is possible to still get butterflies in my stomach at my age. So maybe it's still possible to feel that way when you are in your late 40's too.
Excellent points, @Karin Schill! :loveit: Just what I was thinking when I read @Presea's comments! :gotcha:
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Most of my friends have kids by now and only a few of them are married. So I think society has really changed that way as if you go back a generation I think most people got married before they had kids.
Several generations ago, wedding vows were exchanged prior to child birth! :gotcha: However, the children were quite often conceived out of wedlock! :D

Check the wedding date and year of your grandparents, great-grandparents, or even great-great grandparents! Compare it to the birthdate and year of their first child! You may be in for a surprise! ;)
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
A terrific and very cute update from Bobby and Pam's bedroom! :ch: It left me with a big smile on my face, but also a few worries!

LOL ... I'd hate to be awakened in the way that Rebecca woke her parents up! But I can completely understand her excitement about them being home again, so I completely forgive her! :kiss:

Rebecca likes Margaret and uncle JR the best!!! :rlol: I can just picture the surprised and confused looks on Bobby and Pam's faces, when Rebecca said: “Yeah he’s been so kind to me when you’ve been away. He took Margaret and me to see Pocahontas at the movies, he taught me how to swim and he took me riding and showed me your old tree house daddy!” :giggle: No wonder Bobby and Pam were both skeptical! I'd love it, if Rebecca had bonded some more with Miss Ellie too (i.e. more than just at bedtime).

Sweet dialogue about moving to Southfork permanently, yet also giving up on their life in Southern California! It's a lot to take in for a 7 year old! I loved it when Rebecca asked if it all meant that she'd get to see her daddy every day! :spinning: But I didn't like Bobby's response: “Yes and the rest of my family too”. I'm sure it's nothing, but it sounded weird and yes ... wrong ... when Bobby referred to "my family"!

When Pam said "we'll all live here at Southfork", it made me think of the socalled secret that she supposedly has been keeping from Bobby! I'm sure that their current happiness will be tested to the max., which makes me sad! :(

Also, I'm sure that Christopher - although he says that he's happy to have his mom back - still has issues to work out, not only with his mom and sister, but also internally. His devotedness to his mother will perhaps be tested when his mom's secret comes out? :think: (And let's not forget that Lucas will soon be present too!)! Since Bobby also worried how his son would take to his parents' engagement, I'm sure that there is "thunder" on the horizon! :(

Please update soon! I'm anxious to find out what happens at breakfast! :spinning:
 
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Thank you everyone for the feedback. :)

Sanda, actually Rebecca doesn't know yet that her parents are getting married. She just knows that they will be relocating to Texas permanently. So you'll find out in tonight's update how both of the kids will react to the news... ;)

Presea, I'm glad you found the update cute. :)

Ms Southworth, I think I read a classic Swedish novel for school many years ago and in it the couples started sleeping together after they got engaged. So if that was the norm in the 1800s there's no surprise that lots of children were conceived out of wedlock.

I'm glad you liked the latest Bobby, Pam and Rebecca update. :)
Honestly I don't think Rebecca fully understand what she'll be giving up once she moves for good. I know that I didn't really realize what a big change it would be until after I moved to another town when I was her age.

Also I think you are worrying too much about what's in store for Bobby and Pam. Just sit back and enjoy their happiness for the time being. Pam's secret won't interfer with their lives in this episode. ;)

Anyway you're in luck since tonight's update is the breakfast scene:


Miss Ellie, Clayton, JR, Sue Ellen, John Ross, Christopher, Ray, Donna, Margaret, Lucy and Mitch were already gathered around the breakfast table when Bobby, Pam and Rebecca entered the room. “Good morning everyone,” Bobby greeted his family.

“You’re back,” Chris grinned, before he ran up to hug first Bobby and then hesitatingly Pam.

“Sure are it’s good to see you son,” Bobby smiled.

“It sure is, we’ve missed you,” Pam said.

“Me too,” Christopher said.

“Also we got some good news for you,” Pam smiled.

“I’m not grounded anymore?” Chris asked in a hopeful tone of voice.

“Nice try, but that’s not it, now try again,” Bobby said.

“Oh man, am I ever going to get rid of that grounding?” Chris sighed.

“Sure you will, in fact let me talk it over with your mom and we’ll get back to you later this week when your grounding ends,” Bobby said.

“Okay,” Christopher sighed. “So now why don’t you tell me what your great news is?”

“Okay pal and we really hope you’ll think it is great news because we do,” Bobby said.

“I hope that means you cut us some great deals in Houston Bob,” JR butted in and Bobby and Pam exchanged a look and started to laugh. “What’s so funny?”

“Oh nothing, it’s just that I think you’re going to be just thrilled with our news,” Bobby grinned at JR.

“Oh most definitely,” Pam smiled before she turned to Christopher. “Christopher how would you like it if Rebecca and I were to never leave you again?”

“You mean you’re moving in here for good?” Christopher smiled.

“Yes,” Pam smiled.

“I’d like that but how do I know you won’t leave again?” Christopher asked.

“I promise you that I won’t,” Pam replied.

“Yeah and besides son, I’ve asked your mother to marry me again so…”

“You did what?” JR exclaimed, as he couldn’t believe his ears.

“I asked Pam to marry me again,” Bobby repeated.

“That’s what I was afraid you said,” JR muttered and Pam gave him her best smile.

“And I said yes. So we’re now engaged,” Pam finally dropped the bomb.

JR looked like he’d eaten a lemon when he heard the news. Oh damn, why does Bobby have to make the same mistakes over and over? JR reflected to himself. What is it that Barnes woman’s got on you? JR looked suspiciously at Pam. I thought April was great for you, but she was murdered. I thought Jenna was perfect for you but you never married her. Not when you can have your precious Pam. Never mind that she’s a terrible woman and that her brother’s an idiot. JR was however alone in his reaction as the rest of the family was all smiles and really happy about this.

“Yeah mommy and daddy are getting married,” Rebecca screamed as she started to jump up and down with excitement.

“Well that is wonderful news,” Miss Ellie smiled as she got up.

“So does that mean we’ll be a family again?” Chris asked.

“Yes,” Pam smiled.

“I hope this makes you happy son?” Bobby asked.

“It does,” Chris smiled, before he hugged Bobby and Pam.

“This makes me so happy,” Miss Ellie smiled warmly at them with tears in her eyes, as she was touched. Then she hugged Bobby and Pam. “Pam, welcome back to the family.”

“Thank you Miss Ellie,” Pam smiled at the woman who had been more like a mother to her than her own.

“Yes Congratulations,” Clayton said as he too got up to hug them.

“I hope you’ll be very happy together,” Ray said before he hugged them.

“Yes it’s always great when two people who still love each other find their way back to each other,” Donna threw Ray a glance before she smiled and hugged Bobby and Pam.

“Yeah the third time really is the charm, I hope you will be as happy as me and Mitch,” Lucy hugged Bobby and Pam next.

“Yeah we’ve all known that you two belong together,” Sue Ellen smiled as she hugged them. The rest of the family followed suit and congratulated them, until it was only JR left.

“So JR aren’t you going to say something?” Bobby asked teasingly.

“Well are you sure you know what you’re doing Bob?” JR asked. “I mean you’ve just gotten back together again.”

“Well what can I say?” Bobby grinned. “Unlike you big brother I have always been a bit impulsive!”

“I’d say, I guess it’s a good thing I called you when I did or otherwise you would have come back married,” JR muttered.

“Yeah it’s a good thing he did,” Rebecca agreed which earned her some weird looks from her parents.

“You don’t want mommy and daddy to be married?” Pam asked surprised, as she started to wonder how JR had managed to brain wash her daughter.

“Yes I do, but I don’t wanna miss the wedding, I wanna be a bridesmaid,” Rebecca explained to Pam’s relief.

“Well of course you’ll be a bridesmaid,” Pam smiled, as she and Bobby went to sit down.

Once the whole family was seated JR said, “Well now when that’s out of the way. Let’s get down to the problem we’re supposed to discuss today. That is what are we going to do about Don Lockwood and that damn movie?” JR asked. “I mean we must find a way to restore my reputation.”

Everyone looked at each other and after a while Mitch said, “I’m not sure why we should help you really.”

“Because we’re Ewings and we gotta stick together,” JR replied.

“JR’s right, this family’s always there for each other when we need each other,” Bobby agreed.

“Especially when JR needs something,” Ray muttered.

“What’s the matter Ray, don’t tell me that after all these years you still don’t think of yourself as a Ewing?” JR asked.

“Well Jock was my daddy too,” Ray said defensively.

“I know but that still doesn’t change the fact that your last name is Krebbs,” JR said challengingly.

“JR, that’s quite enough,” Miss Ellie said firmly.

“Yes do you want this family to help you or not?” Clayton asked.

“Of course I want you to help me,” JR replied. “So is everyone willing to help me?”

“We are, but only if you treat us with respect,” Clayton said and the others nodded.

“Yes you need to start with showing everyone that you get along with the rest of your family and you need to do it in public,” Miss Ellie said.

“That’s a great idea Miss Ellie, but how do we do that?” Sue Ellen asked.

“Well you and JR need to be seen together,” Miss Ellie said.

“Yeah I think Mama’s right, we need to restore our reputation and the best way to do that is by showing everyone that we get along in public, so maybe we should go out for dinner and dancing Sue Ellen?” JR smiled.

“No, I really don’t think going out on a date is a good idea,” Sue Ellen objected, as the idea of spending time with JR in such an intimate setting triggered a lot of memories that were better left forgotten.

“I wasn’t suggesting that you’d go out alone,” Miss Ellie clarified. “I just meant that if people see that you get along in public they will start to question if Don’s lying when he says the movie is based on your life. Because if JR really treated you badly, and I know that he did at times, why would you be hanging out with him now?”

Sue Ellen nodded, “Okay I can do that.”

“Yeah Mama’s already promised that she’ll have lunch with me and daddy in town today,” John Ross smiled.

“That’s a start,” Miss Ellie smiled.

“I don’t know if that will do any good, I mean if people see you together chances are that they will only think you’re there for the sake of your child,” Clayton said.

“That’s true,” Donna agreed.

“So you need more exposure but how?” Pam pondered.

“Well you could easily get on a TV talk show,” Lucy said. “The reporters have been calling non-stop since Saturday evening requesting interviews with JR and Sue Ellen.”

“Well I suppose we could do that. I mean we did the Roy Ralston show together in the 1980s and it went well,” JR said thoughtfully.

But Sue Ellen shook her head, “No I don’t wanna give any interviews.”

“But darling why not?” JR asked. “I mean if it could dispel the rumors…”

“Because it won’t,” Sue Ellen interrupted him. “If anything it will only add more fuel to the fire. I mean what if they ask me a question I can’t answer?”

“You mean you can’t tell a lie for me?” JR asked.

“Exactly,” Sue Ellen replied. “Besides, don’t you see that any interview I give will only be viewed as a publicity stunt to promote the movie?”

“She has a point,” Ray agreed.

“Yeah any interview Sue Ellen gives will only result in more people going to see the movie,” Donna said.

“What’s wrong with that?” Lucy asked. “I mean then we’ll make more money.”

“You’ve got a stake in this?” Mitch asked surprised.

“Don may have given me a percentage for the information I gave him when he interviewed me about JR,” Lucy revealed.

“Just typical,” JR snorted.

“Well I don’t wanna do anything that will increase Don’s profit of the movie,” Sue Ellen said bitterly.

“Looks like your percentage might not be worth that much after all,” JR said gloatingly.

“Oh I’ve already made more money on that shit than I ever thought I would,” Lucy said. “I bet that you have too Sue Ellen…”

“Lucy you’re making everything worse,” Sue Ellen replied.

“So cousin Lucy makes money just from talking?” Rebecca asked. “That’s unfair. I want money too, as everyone says I am a real blabbermouth!”

“Well that you are, but it doesn’t work like that,” Bobby smiled.

“So how does it work then?” Rebecca asked. “I mean I wanna know how to make a lot of money.”

“Spoken like a true Ewing,” JR smiled.

Bobby and Pam exchanged a look, as it did seem like Rebecca and JR had gotten quite close when they were away and who could ever have thought that would happen. Then Bobby said, “Someone will explain it to you later Rebecca, now we need to focus on how to restore our reputation.”

“Yes we can lose a lot of money if people won’t make business with Ewing Oil so we need to come up with something and that’s quick!” JR said.

“That’s right dad, speaking of Ewing Oil, can I come with you to the office today?” John Ross asked.

“You want to go to the office with me?” JR asked.

“Yes sir,” John Ross replied. “So can I?” John Ross asked hopefully and JR made a face.

“What’s the matter JR, I thought you wanted to take John Ross to the office,” Sue Ellen said.

“I do, it’s just that I have some important business to take care of in the morning,” JR sighed, “Confidential business.”

“Oh I see,” John Ross said disappointed. “I guess if you don’t want me at the office…”

“No it’s not that. Since I’d love to show you the office,” JR hurried to reassure John Ross, he then looked from John Ross sad face to Sue Ellen’s disapproving eyes before he added, “Look son, how about if you’ll join me at the office after our lunch with your mama?”

“You mean it?” John Ross’ face lit up.

“Yeah sure do son,” JR smiled.

“Dad can I follow you to the office too?” Christopher asked in a hopeful voice.

“Christopher I don’t think that’s such a good idea I mean…” Bobby started.

“I know, I know, I’m grounded,” Christopher sighed.

“Actually pal, that’s not why. You see I wasn’t planning to go to the office today.”

“Yeah, after the business trip we thought it would be nice to take the day off,” Pam smiled.

“So we could spend some time together as a family,” Bobby explained. “You’d like that don’t you?”

Christopher nodded, “Yeah of course I do. So can we go play golf?”

“Sure,” Pam smiled.

“Oh Pam I wouldn’t if I were you,” Miss Ellie said and the other grownups started to laugh.

“What’s so funny?” Pam asked.

“Oh it’s a long story,” Miss Ellie said with a smile. “Let’s just say that I got myself thrown off the golf court when I took John Ross and Chris golfing while you were away!”

“It was great fun,” John Ross laughed.

“Sure was,” Chris laughed.

“So maybe golf is not such a good idea,” Bobby frowned.

“Relax dad, I meant mini-golf,” Chris spelled it out.

“Well if that’s so, that’s a different matter,” Bobby said.

“So we’ll go miniature golfing?” Chris asked.

“If it’s okay with Rebecca,” Pam smiled.

“Sure it’s ok mommy,” Rebecca smiled.

“Good then that’s decided,” Bobby smiled.

“Well as nice as that sounds, I don’t think you spending the day out with your family will help dispel the rumors about the movie at all,” JR said.

“JR’s right, we need to come up with something that will help restore our reputation,” Sue Ellen agreed.

“Well if you really want to do that I have an idea,” Bobby smiled.

“What?” JR asked.

“I don’t think you’re going to like it though,” Bobby smiled.

“I’m desperate Bob.”

“I know.”

“So let’s hear it,” JR said.

“Okay, I was thinking how about if you throw us a dinner party to celebrate our engagement on Friday?” Bobby asked.

JR sighed, as he was not too thrilled with the idea, “You really expect me to foot the bill for a celebration party here at Southfork?”

“Well it doesn’t have to be a party per say, it could be just dinner, on town,” Bobby replied.

“You mean we’re all having dinner on town on Friday?” Sue Ellen asked.

“Yeah,” Bobby nodded.

“I like the idea,” Pam smiled.

“It sounds nice but I can’t. I promised Margaret that I’ll bring her to a politic meeting on Friday,” Donna declined.

“Yeah Vice-President Al Gore is in town to speak about the environment,” Margaret smiled excitedly.

“How fascinating, I bet you’ll love going to that Ray,” JR grinned.

“Well it makes Margaret happy,” Ray shrugged his shoulders.

“Okay so Donna, Ray and Margaret are out…” Bobby said.

“We’re out too,” Mitch hurried to say.

“We are?” Lucy asked.

“Yeah I promised Afton that we’d babysit Becky. She and Mario have some plans for Friday that doesn’t include her.”

“Sounds like the snob,” Lucy sighed. “I’m sorry Bobby but we can’t make it either.”

“I’m afraid you’d have to count Ellie and me out of it too, as I’m not feeling so good today. I think I might come down with the flu or something,” Clayton said.

“Are you sure you haven’t exercised too much?” Miss Ellie asked.

“Positive, besides the doctor said it was good for me to work out,” Clayton said and JR could feel a pang of bad conscious from that remark. Because he knew that it was really his fault that Clayton was feeling tired.

“Well maybe you should ease off that a little,” JR suggested. “You don’t wanna overwork yourself.”

“Like you care,” Clayton said.

“Well I do,” JR replied, as he made a mental note to call the doctor again and have him tell Clayton to slow down some. He might not like Clayton much. But the idea was to tire Clayton out so that he wouldn’t meddle in JR’s schemes. But he never meant to make his mom a widow again.

“So I guess that leaves us and the kids,” Bobby said.

“I think you’d better leave the children at home with us,” Miss Ellie said.

“But grandma,” Rebecca objected. “I wanted to eat out!”

“Yeah why can’t we eat out too?” Christopher asked.

“Because, don’t you see that it is really for the best if we stay at home. I mean otherwise they will just think mom spends time with dad because of me again,” John Ross twinkled at Chris.

“Oh I didn’t think of that, but you’re right,” Chris said.

“Wait a minute now, are you meaning to tell me that I’m going out to dinner alone with JR, Bobby and Pam?” Sue Ellen asked.

“Yeah isn’t that great?” JR grinned.

“No, people will think we’re on a double date,” Sue Ellen sighed.

“Oh come on darling, it’s not like we’re out alone.”

“No but I still think it would have been better if Donna and Ray could have come with us as then it wouldn’t just be us and the happy couple,” Sue Ellen said.

“I know what you mean and if you really want us to be six people I suppose I could call and ask Cliff if he would like to bring a date and join us,” Pam said and JR made a face.

“No that’s not necessary,” Sue Ellen hurried to say. “I mean a dinner for four can be a nice thing as it gives us a chance to catch up some.”

“Absolutely, there’s enough with one Barnes at the table,” JR agreed.

“Good then that’s decided, JR, Sue Ellen, Pam and I will have dinner at the oil baron’s on Friday,” Bobby said.

“Great and maybe then we can talk about how you can get that brother of yours to stop this feud against us Ewings,” JR said.

“You really want to stop the feud?” Bobby asked.

“Of course I do,” JR lied. “After I’ve made Cliff regret ever showing his ugly mug on TV,” JR smiled his shit eating grin, as he thought of how Cliff’s ship was going to sink like a stone!
 

Ms Southworth

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Honestly I don't think Rebecca fully understand what she'll be giving up once she moves for good. I know that I didn't really realize what a big change it would be until after I moved to another town when I was her age.

Also I think you are worrying too much about what's in store for Bobby and Pam. Just sit back and enjoy their happiness for the time being. Pam's secret won't interfer with their lives in this episode. ;)
I agree with you about Rebecca not yet understanding all the consequences of a move to Texas! It also means a new school, new friends, new everything!!! Right now, Rebecca on "vacation" only experiencing the fun things in life and the ordinary daily life that lies ahead once summer is over!

You're the one who planted the "seed" about Pam's secret past!!! :lol: And this "seed" has been growing slowly but steadily in my head ever since! Thus, it's no wonder that I see "shadows" everywhere, read into every little remark, and why I'm finding it difficult to completely enjoy Bobby and Pam's happiness at this time! :giggle:
 

Ms Southworth

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Excellent breakfast scene from Southfork! :loveit:

I was always a huge fan of the breakfast gatherings with the entire Ewing family! :jolly: You did an awesome job with the dialogue in this quite lengthy and funny update, @Karin Schill, so I simply must give you and your sister 10 out of 10 points! :bh:

Funny dialogue:
  • “I’m not grounded anymore?” Chris asked in a hopeful tone of voice.
  • “Nice try, but that’s not it, now try again,” Bobby said.
  • “Oh man, am I ever going to get rid of that grounding?” Chris sighed.

A bit of an odd way for Pam to tell her son about the engagement: “Christopher how would you like it if Rebecca and I were to never leave you again?”. :think: Another example of why I can't help but think about what's been hidden behind the "curtains"! :thinks: No one can make a promise like that! We don't know what the future holds! Anyway, I just find Pam's choice of words to be somewhat weird! o_O

LOL ... rotf ... "JR looked like he’d eaten a lemon when he heard the news." ... :giggle:

Perfect reaction from a 7 year old girl: “Yeah mommy and daddy are getting married,” Rebecca screamed as she started to jump up and down with excitement. :jolly: I'm sure that she'll make a perfect bridesmaid, perhaps along with Margaret?

I noticed Donna's glance toward Ray just as she was congratulating the engaged couple! Just perfect as it opens up certain ideas in my mind, at least! :kiss: Lucy's words to the happy couple were also great: “Yeah the third time really is the charm"! :wink@ But I think that Sue Ellen's congratulations to Bobby and Pam scored the highest in my book:
“Yeah we’ve all known that you two belong together”! :fantastic:

I loved how Bobby teased JR about being the last to congratulate him and Pam! :jump2:

Great and extremely ... funny ... dialogue between JR and Ray when you know their "bumpy" history!!! :lolo:

I laughed when Sue Ellen squirmed at the thought of going out with JR on a date! :giggle: Perhaps she doesn't trust herself in his charming company??? :lol: I'm pleased that she refuses to lie even for JR's sake!!! :yep:

Things sure heated up when Lucy reminded everyone about the money she and Sue Ellen stand to make from the movie! :lolo:

Rebecca's questions about "money making" made me chuckle out loud! :rlol: JR's comment (“Spoken like a true Ewing”) had me smiling too!

I wonder how long it'll be before JR's "tricks" will be revealed??? :think: Will we learn more about the "confidential business" that he has to take care of in the office??? I'm especially curious about this, since his own son isn't allowed to be present!!! :think: I'm happy that John Ross is excited about going to work with his dad! :)

Priceless joke about the golfing incident! :giggle: I'd almost forgotten about it, but thanks for reminding me! :D

Nice that Bobby and Pam will spend the day with their children! :kiss:

I love all the various "excuses" that the Ewing family members had for not joining in on dinner at the Oil Baron's Club:
(1) Political meeting with Al Gore ... about the environment; :lolo:
(2) Babysitting 10 year old Becky; :lol:
(3) Influenza symptoms (or something like that). :rolleyes:

I love the ending of the scene in which JR's continued schemes toward Cliff Barnes is mentioned! :gotcha: Of course, the Ewing/Barnes feud is no way near over! :gotcha:

Please update soon! :bowing Quite a few storylines waiting for an update right about now! :wave:
 
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