Dallas in the 90's

Karin

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Meanwhile at Ewing Oil, JR was tied up on the phone. He looked at his watch as he had another meeting in ten minutes and really didn’t have a lot of time to talk. “Mr. Parker, would you get to the point please?” JR asked annoyed. “I’m in a bit of a hurry.”

“Certainly Mr. Ewing, as I said me and my wife own a shipping company named Parker Shipping and we are very interested in doing business with you.”

“You’ve got my attention. So what kind of business do you have in mind?” JR asked. “I mean if you can offer a better deal for shipping our crude from Saudi Arabia we might be all for it.”

“Trust me Mr. Ewing, what I have in mind is right up your alley,” the man replied cryptically.

“Fine, you can stop by the office at six o’clock tomorrow.”

“I’m sorry but we can’t make it at 6, how about if we meet you at 8?”

“Alright, 8 it is,” JR agreed.

“Great, my wife and I will be there by then. Goodbye!”

“Bye,” JR hung up the phone. Then he buzzed his secretary. “Sly will you call Rattigan for me?”

“Right away JR,” replied Sly.

JR waited a bit until the intercom buzzed, “Yes?”

“Rattigan on line one,” Sly informed JR.

“Put him on.”

“Okay JR,” Sly did as she was told.

“Hello Rattigan, JR here,” JR greeted Rattigan. “I’ve got a job for you. I want you to do a background check for me.”

“Okay who is it?” Rattigan asked.

“The Nelson Family, it’s a Luke, Jennifer and their daughter Jessica. They own Nelson Oil and I want you to check them out since they’ve been spending some time with my Mama and I want to know what kind of people she associates with.”

“Alright JR, I’ll get back to you,” Rattigan promised.

“Good,” JR said and hung up the phone.
 

Crazy about SE and JR

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Sexual coercion is still considered a crime in the US, the choice part makes no difference, because a victim would feel like they didn't have a choice when it came to losing something that is being threatened to be taken away from them, whether it is something like money, or in Katherine's case, an emotional attachment. It is not considered the same as rape, but women or men are still considered as victims whose rights are being violated. However, since this took place in 1984, things might have been a bit different back then, so I doubt that a court would have seen it that way, especially since there was no real evidence here. But to rephrase my earlier question, would you honestly say that this was okay, say if for example, Pam was the one being blackmailed for sex by JR so that he would not do something to hurt Bobby or Cliff, or do something to take away any of her financial assets? I highly doubt that you would just say: "Oh, well Pam had a choice here, and JR did nothing wrong!" Katherine was crazy, so of course she would go along with whatever JR wanted her to do in order to still be able to talk to Bobby. He was the only thing in her life that had any value to her at that point in her life. Doing that to a person with mental health problems is seriously wrong, and even if she wasn't crazy, it is still wrong. A crime is a crime, no matter how much you like or dislike a victim. Justice is blind.

Sorry, but it's one thing to say, "sleep with me and I'll help you win Bob." Another thing is to say, "sleep with me or I'll hurt your husband or brother." Katherine was willing to do anything for a reason not a bit noble, she agreed to sleep with JR because she wanted to! She had a choice, if she refused nothing bad would happen to her...
 

Presea

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Sorry, but it's one thing to say, "sleep with me and I'll help you win Bob." Another thing is to say, "sleep with me or I'll hurt your husband or brother." Katherine was willing to do anything for a reason not a bit noble, she agreed to sleep with JR because she wanted to! She had a choice, if she refused nothing bad would happen to her...
Actually, for Katherine, something extremely bad would have happened to her: Having Bobby not want anything to do with her ever again. Those stupid little lunches that she had with Bobby were the last dangling thread of sanity Katherine held onto before all hell broke loose and she started trying to kill him. Even Bobby himself scolded JR for it. It was AFTER JR and Katherine's first time together that he resorted to the blackmail. Sure, Katherine had a choice the whole time, but she had no idea that JR would do that to her at first. Sexual coercion is not okay just because a victim has a choice to not participate. It is a different situation from rape. Victims are put into a situation where they feel like they HAVE to participate in order to keep whatever they are threatened with losing. To Katherine, the idea of losing Bobby WAS just as damaging as the possibility of him getting hurt. The victims decide what hurts them the most, not any observers of the situation. Was it okay for JR to blackmail Sue Ellen into sleeping with him in return for not putting Peter Richards in jail? Just because she had a choice as well? Somehow, I don't think you would agree with me about that.
 

Ms Southworth

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Great update from JR's office! :dance: You wrote JR so well ... :clap: I can just picture him sitting in his chair, getting increasingly frustrated with Mr. Tom Parker from "Parker Shipping"! :cooler: Could it be a matter of shipping crude oil? :think:

I'm not surprised that JR has hired Rattigan for yet another job (although Rattigan must suck at what he does for a living, since he supposedly still hasn't come up with any information regarding Pam? :rolleyes: And it's been way over a month now! ;) ).

I really liked JR's concern for his mother's well-being! :innocent: But there's still a little part of me that thinks that he's also curious about the Nelsons himself! :cool1

I'm looking forward to learning more about the Nelson family and their company! :think: I'm quite sure that they've got their share of "secrets"! :hide:

Please update soon! :popcorn: :tv: I might have to start making a list of all the various storylines that is currently "on hold"! :think: The list seems very long at this point! ;)

Please continue this amazing fanfic ASAP, @Karin Schill! :site:
 

Ms Southworth

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The answer to why Katherine is the way she is is really quite simple: She is obviously not completely sane here, and since she never wanted siblings in the first place or formed any kind of relationship with them, it was pretty easy for her to start blaming them for years about anything that went wrong in her life that was linked to her time in Dallas. She probably sees the real possibility that Rebecca would still be alive if Pam had never tried to find her. I'm not saying it was Pam's fault, but it would be easy for Katherine to see it that way. Simply, Katherine had a breakdown and was never able to completely move on and stop obsessing over her past. It happens to people, and it is not hard to figure this out, so I don't understand why you keep asking this question.
I'm just thinking out "loud", because Katherine's actions and behavior on "Dallas" facinated me (and still does in this fanfic)! :loveit: If it bothers you, I guess that you'll have to "mute" me! :p ... ... :bah: ... ... No offence meant at all, @Presea ... ... It's all just fun and games! :giggle:
 

Ms Southworth

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Sexual coercion is still considered a crime in the US, the choice part makes no difference, because a victim would feel like they didn't have a choice when it came to losing something that is being threatened to be taken away from them, whether it is something like money, or in Katherine's case, an emotional attachment. It is not considered the same as rape, but women or men are still considered as victims whose rights are being violated. However, since this took place in 1984, things might have been a bit different back then, so I doubt that a court would have seen it that way, especially since there was no real evidence here. But to rephrase my earlier question, would you honestly say that this was okay, say if for example, Pam was the one being blackmailed for sex by JR so that he would not do something to hurt Bobby or Cliff, or do something to take away any of her financial assets? I highly doubt that you would just say: "Oh, well Pam had a choice here, and JR did nothing wrong!" Katherine was crazy, so of course she would go along with whatever JR wanted her to do in order to still be able to talk to Bobby. He was the only thing in her life that had any value to her at that point in her life. Doing that to a person with mental health problems is seriously wrong, and even if she wasn't crazy, it is still wrong. A crime is a crime, no matter how much you like or dislike a victim. Justice is blind.
Like I said in an earlier message (perhaps with other words), JR was very wrong to use Katherine! But what he did wasn't a crime, IMO!

And let's not forget that Katherine used JR too!

Thus, it goes both ways! And they were equally wrong for doing what they did! :frustration:

Even if Katherine had had a tape recording of the conversations (and the sex) that she'd had with JR, I simply cannot categorize any of it as something that needed the involvement of the police and the court system! Sorry, but that's just the way I see it! And it's okay to have different opinions about this matter, @Presea! :wave:

It's not possible to compare Katherine and JR's situation with the example that you described regarding Pam (which would have been one-sided)! o_O Two very different situations, IMO! ;)

Sorry, but it's one thing to say, "sleep with me and I'll help you win Bob." Another thing is to say, "sleep with me or I'll hurt your husband or brother." Katherine was willing to do anything for a reason not a bit noble, she agreed to sleep with JR because she wanted to! She had a choice, if she refused nothing bad would happen to her...
To no surprise, I fully agree, @Crazy about SE and JR! :jolly:

Actually, for Katherine, something extremely bad would have happened to her: Having Bobby not want anything to do with her ever again. Those stupid little lunches that she had with Bobby were the last dangling thread of sanity Katherine held onto before all hell broke loose and she started trying to kill him. Even Bobby himself scolded JR for it. It was AFTER JR and Katherine's first time together that he resorted to the blackmail. Sure, Katherine had a choice the whole time, but she had no idea that JR would do that to her at first. Sexual coercion is not okay just because a victim has a choice to not participate. It is a different situation from rape. Victims are put into a situation where they feel like they HAVE to participate in order to keep whatever they are threatened with losing. To Katherine, the idea of losing Bobby WAS just as damaging as the possibility of him getting hurt. The victims decide what hurts them the most, not any observers of the situation. Was it okay for JR to blackmail Sue Ellen into sleeping with him in return for not putting Peter Richards in jail? Just because she had a choice as well? Somehow, I don't think you would agree with me about that.
No, of course, it wasn't okay for JR to blackmail Sue Ellen into sleeping with him in return for not putting Peter Richards in jail! :rolleyes:

But like the example you gave regarding Pam, this situation with Sue Ellen was one-sided as well, since Sue Ellen wasn't using JR for anything! If Sue Ellen had managed to get a tape recording of JR blackmailing her for sex in order to keep Peter out of jail, then I have no doubt that there would have been grounds for a police investigation, which possibly could have landed JR in jail! :box:

Quite interesting how differently we perceive things, right? :)
 

Presea

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Like I said in an earlier message (perhaps with other words), JR was very wrong to use Katherine! But what he did wasn't a crime, IMO!

And let's not forget that Katherine used JR too!

Thus, it goes both ways! And they were equally wrong for doing what they did! :frustration:

Even if Katherine had had a tape recording of the conversations (and the sex) that she'd had with JR, I simply cannot categorize any of it as something that needed the involvement of the police and the court system! Sorry, but that's just the way I see it! And it's okay to have different opinions about this matter, @Presea! :wave:

It's not possible to compare Katherine and JR's situation with the example that you described regarding Pam (which would have been one-sided)! o_O Two very different situations, IMO! ;)


To no surprise, I fully agree, @Crazy about SE and JR! :jolly:


No, of course, it wasn't okay for JR to blackmail Sue Ellen into sleeping with him in return for not putting Peter Richards in jail! :rolleyes:

But like the example you gave regarding Pam, this situation with Sue Ellen was one-sided as well, since Sue Ellen wasn't using JR for anything! If Sue Ellen had managed to get a tape recording of JR blackmailing her for sex in order to keep Peter out of jail, then I have no doubt that there would have been grounds for a police investigation, which possibly could have landed JR in jail! :box:

Quite interesting how differently we perceive things, right? :)
Just because Katherine was hoping to gain something from it all in the beginning does not cancel out JR's obvious crime and make it okay. The situation may be different from rape, but it's still like saying that a woman who wanted to have sex with a guy who was married or seeing someone before he tried to rape her was "asking for it". Plus, JR was the one who proposed the idea to Katherine in the first place.

Granted, the posts I'm seeing here aren't near as bad as the ones I would see on the old forum where some members would say that they would have liked JR to actually rape Katherine and even have her killed. But it is still quite disturbing and sad to see that people don't find it a crime for JR to sexually blackmail and demean a woman who was obviously mentally disturbed (Most likely, erotomania. The symptoms were there.) and depressed enough to have no life whatsoever outside of her sister's husband. And sadly, even with proper evidence, this case would have gone nowhere in the show, and a case the same as it in real life probably wouldn't have either. But I already implied that this was the case. No matter how people define the crime or consider what makes it valid. And people do have a lot of different opinions about how sexual coercion should be defined. The truth is that even if this is not legally considered a crime, it should be. Especially since there was blackmail involved. Men still get away with doing horrible things to women everyday, and people with mental health issues are still treated horribly while so many people continue to be ignorant about the problems that they face. Even though Dallas is fictional, I would still say that the responses I'm seeing here really show just how much limited understanding there still is about these problems.

In my opinion, you and Crazy about SE and JR just believe that this is not a crime simply because you didn't like the fact that Katherine broke up Bobby and Pam, and that Katherine simply was a woman who slept with JR that was not Sue Ellen. And before you say I'm biased, let me explain how I'm not. I hate Holly Harwood. A horrible character who was stupid enough to let JR walk all over her company and continually whined to Bobby about it and expected him to get her out her mess. And she was horrible enough to take out her anger on Sue Ellen, who had done nothing to her, by sleeping with JR and inviting her over to see it. But do I think it was okay for JR to blackmail her for sex in order to keep her company?No, I don't, and JR obviously committed a crime here, too. I can look at these situations objectively without letting any character like or dislike get in the way of seeing right from wrong. I'm not saying that you guys are biased against Katherine because you didn't like how her actions affected your favorite characters, just that you might not even realize it if you are. There are no conditions you can put on Katherine's situation to justify it. A bad deed on her part does not "even things out" and cancel out JR's obvious crime here. It's not about what Katherine did before it happened, or what her intentions were when she agreed to sleep with him before the blackmail. The blackmail still happened, and I don't see how simply changing the circumstances of a situation suddenly make blackmail legal or illegal as long as it still happens. But since no one besides me seems capable of seeing reason here, I'm not going to post about it anymore.
 

Karin

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Thank you everyone for your comments. :)

Crazy about SE and JR, I also got the impression that Katherine wanted to sleep with JR. I thought they were having an affair. But reading what Presea had to say about it made me think twice and it's possible that I interpret it all wrong or didn't see it for what it really was because I like the character of JR!

Presea, I see the point you are trying to get across about Katherine and JR and I agree with you that sexual coercion is a crime. :(
But well since Dallas is fictional and a lot of people like to root for JR even though he was supposed to be the bad guy, I think a lot of viewers/fans were on his side regardless of what he did. Also as any media text Dallas is open to a multiple of readings and interpretations and your reading of Katherine and JR is interesting and eye opening as it's not the way I would have read it in the first place. But as a feminist I can certainly agree with you that all the sexual blackmail you described is wrong. I think that plots like that shows that Dallas is a product of its time and that it was actually a sexist show. But since it was created by a man, produced by men and mostly directed and written by men maybe that shouldn't be a surprise!

I still think the Katherine and JR arrangment was supposed to be entertaining. JR was wicked and the way Larry portrayed him with that boyish charm of his made him very likable. He was like a grown child in some ways. So therefore JR got away with a lot of stuff that a real life person hopefully wouldn't get away with. But yes the way JR treated women was very bad. You bring up Holly Harwood and well when I rewatched the show I got the impression that JR forced himself on Holly the first time. She didn't want him either but instead of just taking it she set up a trap for him to get revenge and then she got the blame for sending Sue Ellen off the deep end and felt bad about it. When it was actually JR that had done her wrong to start with. So it does seem like the women often find themselves on the losing side in Dallas. :(

Then as for Peter Richards I must admit that I was happy when JR set him up. Probably because he was super annoying and since he did go after a married woman I thought JR as the husband was right in getting rid of the boy who slept with his wife!
But yeah the way JR treated Sue Ellen at times could be very degrading too. Their relationship was definitely dysfunctional and yet they did love each other and that made them interesting somehow.

Ms Southworth, I am glad that you liked the lastest update and that you think I wrote JR well. :)
You are right about the Nelsons of course. JR will find out some of their secrets...
Then as for the Parkers deal, there is of course more to it than just a shipping deal but what exactly it is you won't find out until they have their meeting...

You are right that there are some storylines on hold right now. I think it is because we have so many characters to write for. Also a part of what makes a drama like Dallas good to watch is that there are a lot of storylines going on at the same time that are progressing slowly. I realize that since you don't get a full episode/week it does seem like the storylines are moving very slow right now. But I'm willing to bet that if this was a full season of 25 episodes and you got to watch them over a time span of a year it wouldn't feel as slow. So well we are trying to write this with that in mind.

I'm glad that Katherine still fascinates you in this fanfic. She is certainly a great character and a fan favorite. :cool1

I also agree with you that it's interesting how differently we all perceive things on the show. I think the fact that we are all fans and that we ship different couples also plays a part in how we perceive things and that our perspectives have been influenced by that.

Shan, I'm not sure if your post was in response to my update or in response to what Presea said but well thanks for weighing in.

Okay so the update will be posted in the next post.
 

Karin

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At the roller skating court were Lucy, John Ross and Christopher skating around the room with ease. Margaret on the other hand was having a hard time to keep her balance on the skates and was moving around the room slowly. Rebecca was keeping her company.

“This was no fun!” Margaret complained, after falling over for the seventh time.

“Sure it is, if you know how to roller blade,” Rebecca said. “I’ve been practicing for a year now and look how well I’m doing.” But she shouldn’t have said that because in the next moment Rebecca lost her balance and fell too.

“Oh yeah I can really see how well you are doing,” Margaret said sarcastically. “You’re no good either!”

“Sure I am,” Rebecca said.

“Am not.”

“Am too,” the girls started to bicker.

Lucy, who saw that her younger cousin’s had taken a fall on their asses, came skating up to them. “Hey are you two okay?”

“Yes ma’am, but this is boring,” Margaret complained.

“Yeah we’d like to do something else now,” Rebecca agreed.

“Okay how about if we’d go and buy you girls some ice-cream then?”

“Yes! We’ll get ice-cream!” Rebecca and Margaret’s sour facial expression quickly brightened. The girls hurried to get up and Lucy took them by the hand as they started making their way towards the exit. They were almost there when John Ross and Chris skated up to them.

“Hey where are you going?” Chris asked.

“To buy ice-cream,” Lucy pointed towards the ice-cream parlor across the room.

John Ross looked over at the ice-cream parlor and that’s when he spotted her. The teenage girl had brown longish hair, a heart shaped face, nice figure and a cute smile. To the rest of the world she looked like your average teenage girl but in John Ross eyes she was the prettiest girl he’d laid eyes on in a long time. He barely heard Lucy’s question at first. “Do you want some too?”

“Sure,” Chris smiled, as Lucy, Rebecca and Margaret got off the court and Lucy started helping the kids with taking off their roller blades.

“What about you John Ross?” Lucy asked. But she didn’t get an answer as John Ross couldn’t take his eyes off the beautiful girl working in the ice-cream parlor. “John Ross, do you want something?” Lucy repeated the question.

“Sure I want her,” John Ross accidentally spoke of what was on his mind.

Lucy and Chris laughed as they understood what was going on, “Oh boy does he have the hots for her or what?” Chris grinned and John Ross blushed.

“Ah I think it’s cute,” Lucy smiled before she said, “Tell you what, why don’t you go buy some ice-cream instead John Ross?”

“Okay but I really don’t know what to say to her,” John Ross said as he got off the roller blade court and started taking off his roller blades too.

“Oh just start by saying hello and I’m sure you’ll do fine from there. I mean I talked to Mitch and see how well that worked out,” Lucy smiled.

“But I thought you were drunk when you met Mitch,” John Ross said.

Lucy laughed, “Oh who’s told you that honey?”

“I think you did, a long time ago.”

“You’ve got a great memory,” Lucy smiled. “I guess I was. But that was a long time ago.”

“True but I’m sure it helped,” John Ross said.

Lucy frowned as it occurred to her that her younger cousin seemed to have taken up drinking while living in England. “Still you don’t need booze to talk to her. I mean you’ve got your adorable little cousins.”

“I do?” John Ross looked horrified at the prospect at bringing his kid cousins with him.

“Sure you do, girls love guys who are good with kids,” Lucy said reassuringly. “Here you go, take this and go buy us all some ice-cream.” Lucy handed John Ross a fifty dollar bill.

“Okay, let’s go kids,” John Ross smiled as he took Rebecca and Margaret hands. They walked over towards the ice-cream parlor while Chris and Lucy sat down at a bench nearby, where they had a great view over the ice-cream parlor. John Ross could feel his heart start to beat faster as they awaited their turn in the queue. When they finally made it to the front of the line he realized that the girl had the most gorgeous blue eyes.

“Hi, what can I help you with?” The girl asked politely.

“Hi, I um…” John Ross started to say before his tongue got tied. It was silly. It wasn’t like he’d never had a girl before. Still it was something about this girl that made it hard for him to speak. Luckily for him his younger cousins didn’t share his problem at all but were all too happy to chitchat some.

“Hello, I’m Rebecca, what’s your name?”

“Melissa, my name tag says so sweetie,” The girl replied in a friendly voice.

“I’m Margaret and I’m from Washington D.C. where are you from?”

“San Francisco,” Melissa replied.

“Cool. I’m also from California. So how old are you?” Rebecca asked.

“I’m 15.”

“Wow! You’re old,” Rebecca replied.

“Well I’m not that old,” Melissa replied in a still polite but rather annoyed tone.

“But you must be in High School, right?” Margaret asked.

“Sure am. I’m going to start my junior year at Braddock High this fall.”

John Ross grinned, as he realized that was the school he’d be attending too. Knowing that the girl might actually be within his reach he finally regained his ability to speak. “What a coincidence so am I,” John Ross smiled, as he let on his charm. “I’m John Ross and I’m 16 years old.”

“Really nice to meet you,” Melissa said and gave him an interested glance. “So what’s the school like?”

“Oh I don’t know I’ve just moved here from England,” John Ross replied.

“But you don’t sound British.”

“I’m not, I’ve just lived there for four years. Anyway I just moved back to Texas and I don’t really know that many people here anymore. So it sure would be nice if I could get to know you some before school starts,” John Ross flirted.

“Are you asking me out on a date?”

“Yeah, is it working?”

“Yes,” Melissa smiled. “Maybe we can catch a movie or something?”

“Sure I’d love to, how about tomorrow?” John Ross suggested.

“I’m sorry but I am working tomorrow. But I have time off next weekend?”

“So the next weekend it is,” John Ross smiled. “How about if I…”

“John Ross aren’t you forgetting something?” Rebecca interrupted.

“What?” John Ross asked annoyed. “Can’t you see I’m talking?”

“Yes but I just wanted to remind you that you can’t go to the movies, because you’re grounded,” Rebecca smiled.

“Damn! I totally forgot about that,” John Ross cursed.

“Oh that sucks,” Melissa said disappointed. “So I guess that means our date is off?”

“Well maybe not. I mean it’s not the same, but how about it if you’ll come out to us at Southfork instead?”

“Southfork?”

“Yes, that’s where I live.”

“But I thought that was the Ewing residence,” Melissa replied.

“It is. I am John Ross Ewing.”

“Oh, I didn’t realize you were a Ewing,” Melissa said.

In the past John Ross would have been proud to say that he was. However remembering how his mother’s movie had ruined their reputation as of lately John Ross sighed, “It’s not a problem now is it?”

“No, I’ll still go out with you even if you’re rich,” Melissa said.

“Well good, so how about going swimming in our pool on Saturday?”

“I’d love to, so see ya at four?”

“Great, then it’s a date,” John Ross said delighted.

“Well good now when that’s decided can we have our ice-creams now?” Rebecca asked.

“Sure you can have your ice-creams, so what do you want?”

“A banana split,” Rebecca beamed.

“Oh can I have one too, please?” Margaret asked.

“Make that two banana splits,” John Ross said.

“Okay and for you?” Melissa asked as she started putting the ice-cream plates together.

“Oh I don’t know what would you recommend?”

“Well the raspberry soft ice-cream with chocolate topping is a personal favorite,” Melissa smiled.

“Okay, then I’ll have four of those.”

“Four?”

“Yeah one for me, one for you and two for my cousins,” John Ross said and pointed at the table where Chris and Lucy are waiting for them.

“Oh John Ross, but you really don’t have to buy me an ice-cream…”

“I know but I want to, if you don’t mind?”

“I don’t mind, but I’m not really supposed to eat while I work,” Melissa said as she put up the two banana split ice-creams on the counter.

“So eat it while you’re on your break then,” John Ross said.

“Okay I can do that,” Melissa smiled, as she started fixing the soft ice-creams.

“So have you worked here long?” John Ross asked.

“Nah, just since June,” Melissa replied.

“Could have fooled me, you look like a pro putting the ice-creams together.”

“Thanks,” Melissa smiled. “I’m glad I’m finally getting it right. The first week was a disaster. I kept mixing up people’s orders.”

John Ross laughed, “So why do you work here if you don’t like it?”

“Oh I needed a summer job to save up some money for my driver’s license.”

“I see. I haven’t gotten my license yet either.”

“But surely the cost can’t be a problem for you?”

“It’s not. It’s just that in England people don’t get their license until they are 17.”

“I see,” Melissa said. “Anyway here are your ice-creams,” Melissa said, as she put up the ice-creams on the counter.

“Thanks, so how much do I owe you?”

“Well for two banana splits and four soft ice-creams, that’ll be 40 dollars.”

“Here’s a fifty, you’ll keep the change,” John Ross said, as he handed over the fifty dollar bill to Melissa.

“Thanks, you know you’re cute,” Melissa smiled.

“So are you,” John Ross replied, as he handed Rebecca and Margaret the tray with their ice-creams. “Oh and don’t forget about our date.”

“I won’t, I’ll see you next Saturday at 4.”

“At my place, can you find it?” John Ross asked, as he took the other three ice-creams from the counter.

“Sure I’ll be there,” Melissa smiled.
 

Presea

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I will admit that the dialogue for all of those Katherine JR was priceless, Karin. Morgan Brittany and Larry Hagman knew how to work very well in all of their scenes together. So for me, not being able to see those guys in any more scenes together was probably the worst part about Katherine's departure from the show. But I am now mentally exhausted from debating with anyone about those blackmail scenes. lol. But it would be kind of interesting if the subject of what happened to Katherine was brought up in your story.

Now, onto my review: The phone call to JR has both scared and excited. When JR called Rattigan (god, I miss Harry), I first thought that he was going to have him check out Tom, but now it looks like this could get dangerous. It's pretty clear that Tom has no problem with just blowing the brains out of anyone who doesn't agree with him, so I'm worried that he purposely made the appointment later just so that there might be less people around if he decides to do just that with JR. I am glad that JR is checking out the Nelsons, though. Between them and Cliff and Marilee, Don Dorkwood and his movie, and now Tom and Katherine, JR is being attacked from all sides, and it looks like it might have to get worse before it gets better.

The John Ross stuff reminds me of just one of the many reasons why I don't date. He decides he wants Melissa just because she is beautiful. How shallow. But what can we expect when we consider that his father is just as shallow with the whole love at first sight nonsense at the Miss Texas Pageant? But honestly, this type of formula was standard procedure for the men of Dallas. Please, don't spend too much time on John Ross and Melissa! If you want, I'd actually even choose to see more of Randy than Melissa, because based on her dialogue, she already bores me.
 

Ms Southworth

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Even though Dallas is fictional, I would still say that the responses I'm seeing here really show just how much limited understanding there still is about these problems.
@Presea: "Quite strong words to use about other Board members and their opinions, IMO! It's for the best to put this discussion to rest!

The only thing I want to add is that I have family members with psychological or developmental disorders, so the world of psychology is no stranger to me. And I don't see Katherine to fit in this "category"!
 

Ms Southworth

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Great update with the young Ewing generation! :spinning: I think that your description of a 16 year old John Ross was very accurate for a teenager! At that age, boys are generally controlled by their hormones (and not so much their brain), so the fact that John Ross takes a liking to a pretty girl is quite normal! :) And please make a note that I'd much rather hear more about John Ross, Christopher, or Becky's teenage "escapades" (since they are a part of the Ewing or Barnes families) than Randy and Charlie! ;)

I have to wonder though if JR or Sue Ellen will allow John Ross to have a girl over (since he has to focus on his school work)! :D

I'm looking forward to yet another update! So much to catch up on! :dance: :dance: :dance:

PS. Will we hear more about the contents of Pam's seven shopping bags? For instance, I hope that she bought a new beautiful evening dress and perhaps some new sexy lingerie for her upcoming night on the town! :danc:
 

Karin

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Thank you for the feedback. :)

Presea, I agree with you about Morgan Brittany and Larry's acting. They were both excellent. :)
Then as for the subject matter, you are right it has been discussed enough so let's drop the subject now.

Katherine lives in La Jolla, California in this story. So quite close to San Diego.

I miss Harry too. In the original draft of this story we used Harry for these early scenes. Then we realized they had changed him to Rattigan so then we used both and then we realized that the reason they had changed character on the show was because the actor who portrayed Harry McSween had died. So then when we went back to revise this story we decided to only use Rattigan since he was used last on the show.

You are right when you say that it can be dangerous to look into Tom's background. Then as for what he and Katherine are plotting, it will all be revealed in their meeting with JR.

Then as for John Ross and Melissa. He is 16 years old so it's not so strange that he gets this instant attraction to a beautiful girl. I think it's natural for teenagers to feel that way as their hormones are all over the place.

But yes I have noted that you prefer more of Charlie and Randy over John Ross and Melissa.

Shan, thanks for clarifying that. I'm glad that you loved JR and Katherine too. :)

Ms Southworth, I am glad that you enjoyed the scene with the young Ewings. :)
I've noticed that you'd rather read about John Ross, Christopher and Becky over Charlie and Randy. However Becky is not a teeanger as she's only 10 in this story.

You will find out at dinner how JR/SE react when John Ross mentions that he has a date.

Pam bought a pair of earrings and that's all we know of. For all we know some of those bags could have been gifts for the kids!

Update will follow in the next post.
 
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Karin

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Back at Ewing Oil was JR sitting in a meeting with Marilee Stone. “So do you have the geological reports for me?”

“Yes of course,” Marilee said and took them out of her briefcase and handed them to JR.

JR took a quick look and Marilee bit her lip hoping he wouldn’t notice that they’d been tampered with. She was in luck as when JR finally spoke up he said, “It looks to be in order. I’ll look over them more carefully and get back to you.”

“Okay JR but don’t wait to too long, there are other companies interested in the field,” Marilee informed him.

“Don’t worry Marilee, if the deal’s a good one we’ll make sure to land it.”

“Good, then I’ll look forward to hear from you soon,” Marilee said.

“You can count on it,” JR replied and Marilee looked satisfied.
 

Karin

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At the Diamond Hotels in Dallas, it knocked on Wade’s door, “Mom can you open?” Charlie yelled. “I’m not ready yet!”

Jenna sighed as she went and opened the door, outside was Randy. “Hi Randy,” Jenna greeted him. “Please come on in. Charlie will be ready any minute.”

“Thank you Jenna,” Randy said.

When he entered their suite Lucas came running up to him and said excitedly, “Hi Randy! We’re gonna move in to a new house tomorrow!”

“I know,” Randy replied. “I’ve already promised Charlie I’ll help out.”

“That’s very nice of you Randy,” Jenna smiled.

Charlie came out of her room. Randy whistled when he saw her. She was dressed in a short skirt, pantyhose, high heels and a white sweater that was tied up in a knot leaving a bit of her stomach bare. Jenna frowned disapproving of what Charlie was wearing but said nothing, as Charlie walked up to Randy and greeted him with a kiss, “Hi Honey!”

“Hi there yourself,” Randy greeted Charlie, “ready to go?”

“Yeah,” Charlie nodded.

They were about to leave when Jenna asked, “So where are you kids off to tonight then?”

“Oh dinner and then I figured we’d try out this nightclub called Satin!” Randy smiled.

“Another night out?” Jenna asked.

“Yeah,” Randy replied.

“Okay well you better get going then,” Jenna sighed, as she was really not approving of her daughter’s intense partying.

“Yeah and by the way honey, you never complimented on my clothes,” Charlie replied.

Randy smiled but didn’t have the chance to answer before Lucas said, “I think you look nice but not as nice as my newest car!”

“Lucas!” Jenna scolded her son and the adults laughed.

“Thanks kiddo,” Charlie tousled Lucas hair.

“You look hot Charlie, as always,” Randy smiled. “So shall we?”

“Yes, let’s go,” Charlie agreed.

They started to walk out the door when Lucas said, “Can I come?”

Charlie turned to Lucas. “Sorry kiddo, you’re too young, see you tomorrow.”

Lucas looked disappointed.

“Bye,” Randy said. Charlie and Randy left.

“I hate being too young,” Lucas said grumpy.

Jenna tousled his hair, “Don’t worry honey, you’ll grow up faster than you know it.”
 

Ms Southworth

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For me, the most interesting news of the day (in regards to this fanfic) has nothing to with the two updates! :p So Katherine lives in La Jolla (to be pronounced "La Hoya" if you don't know Spanish)!!! I love La Jolla! It's such a beautiful part of San Diego! :spinning: I've spent many hours hanging out in La Jolla years ago, so I'll be looking forward to hear more about Katherine, Tom, and Wendy's hometown. :cooler:

Will JR figure out that the geological reports have been tampered with? Part of me hope that he doesn't. At least not yet, because the the storyline otherwise would be a dead-end right off the bat! :cool1

My memory of Randy and Charlie is quite poor, but I thought that Charlie was sharing a hotel room with her boyfriend? If I'm right, then why would she be getting dressed in her mom's hotel room? If I'm wrong, then it seems weird that the young couple don't share a hotel room, since they used to share an apartment in San Francisco!

I had to laugh a bit when Jenna said: "So where are you kids off to tonight then?" After all, her daughter and her future son-in-law are grown-ups at this point!!! But I guess that neither Charlie nor Randy fit the "profile" for adults in terms of providing for themselves in all ways. And Jenna hasn't been treating her daughter like an capable adult either! ;)

If Charlie wants to be taken seriously as a school teacher, she should skip the teenage outfits (skimpy shirts and short skirt)! :rolleyes: Especially in the U.S., the personal lives of school teachers tend to be scrutinized, if they don't dress and behave rather conservative both professionally and privately! Maybe the D.O.A. of Dallas has this on their agenda? ;) (But hey ... I just might want Charlie to get fired from her job? Especially, if she is going to be teaching at the same school as the Ewing children go to! Perhaps I should just keep my mouth shut? :D Please forget that I ever addressed this topic!).

Let's move on to some of the other storylines, please! :jolly: ... ... Please!!! :wink@
 
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Presea

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Thanks for the information about Katherine's residence, Karin. I don't know why, but I kept wondering if they lived in Houston just because of her first scene in this story. Obviously, that's like asking to get caught, but then there is something to be said about hiding in plain sight. And I always thought that Katherine got to Dallas pretty dang fast after Pam's accident. If she was in Europe, that is. And accessing overseas news quite quickly for a non-internet age as well. Lol. I wonder what JR and Katherine will say to each other once that meeting at 8:00 pm (story time. lol.) happens? I am actually kind of scared...

JR, DO NOT trust Marilee! Run! Lol! I feel like this is one of those nailbiting moments from the show where we worry about JR possibly getting burned in a deal.

I hate to say it, but since this follows canon, it actually does make more sense to use Rattigan. Just please don't do any strip club meeting scenes between him and JR like they did on TV?

Jenna's internal reactions to Charlie's outfit and party lifestyle were hilarious! I get the feeling that she might actually wish that Charlie was still a teenager, just so that she could say something. Lol. You know, I think I might actually be starting to like this Charlie and Randy stuff! Randy seems like a pretty nice guy overall.
 
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