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Dallas in the 90's

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Ms Southworth, you are right that Cliff got the new car to impress Afton. Then as for Afton, I know she developed on the show and turned into a nice character. But she did come across as a bit of a gold digger in the beginning. So well coming from a poor background I think Afton still appreciates wealth and is somewhat impressed by it. I mean she did marry that Harrison Van Buren III after she left Cliff. He was of a noble family and she thought he was rich but he wasn't. So that says a little something about her character's relationship to men and wealth. :rolleyes:
Sorry, but I don't remember the part about Afton marrying a rich guy in the double-digit seasons of "Dallas". Did Afton only marry him for his wealth, or did she truly love him? :think: Sometimes, you can be fortunate enough to have both, you know! :kiss:

As you already know, I worship the glory seasons of "Dallas". And thus, the Afton that I remember is the one who loved Cliff through the good and the bad times! :embarrassed: :kiss::kiss::kiss:

Sorry I was having movie night with some friends from work so I didn't have the time to update yesterday. :popcorn:

Maybe you'll get another update later tonight. ;)
Hope you had a great time, Karin! :wink@ And thank you so much for giving us two updates yesterday! :best:
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
I guess that the guy living next to the Wades is the same guy they ran into on their roadtrip! Small world ... ... (or is it?)!

Being a parent myself, I have to say that I'm disappointed in Jenna's parenting skills. :( Who in their right mind would allow their child to go next door without knowing the neighbor (or at least having met them) and also knowing the exact house that their child was visiting? :eck: I realize that it's a part of the storyline, but I have to say that I got goosebumps reading that Jenna simply let Lucas go visit a neighbor without even bothering to check out anything! :frustration:

LOL ... ... Funny that Cliff was a bit late to pick up Afton and Becky! :D Cliff was never the best manager of time! :giggle:

I loved how Becky was trying to stand up for her dad! It really means a lot to her to have him around! :kiss: And I'm happy for both Becky and Cliff! :kiss:

I really wish that Afton would keep her comments about Cliff to herself and instead just let her daughter enjoy having her dad in her life! ;) It really makes Afton come across as being quite small-minded! Maybe it'll be a whole lot better for 10 year old Becky to see her dad without having her mom tack along as a (nagging) chaperone? :think:

It's just wonderful how excited Becky is about getting to know her dad's side of the family! :hugs: Oh, how I wish that Becky's good moods would rub off on Afton! :)

LOL ... :lolo: ... "C. Barnes 1"!!! :) I love Cliff's license plate! :gotcha:

Great conversation about Cliff's new wheels! :) I loved Afton's initial comment: “Your father seems to have bought himself a new toy!” :lol:

LOL ... :giggle: ... I'm just not able to picture Afton lifting her daughter up in the Hummer! After all, Becky is 10 years old! And Afton is quite petite herself! :lmao:

I'm looking forward to see how their dinner date goes! :loveit: I wonder if Pam will have told Bobby about Richard beforehand, or if their relationship is still "affected" after the breakfast "situation"! :think:

Please update soon! :best:
 
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Karin

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Thank you for the feedback Ms Southworth. :)

Sorry, but I don't remember the part about Afton marrying a rich guy in the double-digit seasons of "Dallas". Did Afton only marry him for his wealth, or did she truly love him? :think:

I don't know. It was established when she returned on the show in the late 1980's that Afton had been married after she and Cliff went their separate ways. She also had a daughter who was a couple of years old. Cliff thought it was his and was quick to propose to Afton. But Afton denied it was his child and didn't want to marry Cliff because she thought he was only interested in her for her daughter. Afton left town. Cliff hired a detective to find her. But when he did he heard Afton and her ex-husband argue and Afton tell Harrison Van Buren that he was the father of her daughter. Afton and Cliff then had a talk when they bid farewell. After that Van Buren came back and told Afton that even he believed her when she said he was the child's father. Meaning she had lied and that the child was Cliff's. So well for some reason Afton decided to keep the child from Cliff.

I think Afton married her ex on the rebound. It's not clear if it was just his wealth that attracted her. But the marriage ended quickly as he was a drunk and he was poor albeit from a noble family sort of.

I agree with you that Jenna really should keep better track of who her son is socializing with. I don't think she would let Lucas spend time at the Anderson's if she knew. But she thinks he is playing with the boy next door. :eck:

You are right about Afton. Her not wanting to share her daughter with Cliff does make her come across as a bit bitchy. Well I guess considering that Afton is petite, the child is petite too and hence she can lift her up into the car.

As for Bobby and Pam. He thought Pam's comment at the breakfast table was a bit weird. But they have not talked about it. I guess Bobby is of the opinion that it really doesn't matter if Pam was dating someone while in LA since he was married to April then. ;)

Anyway time for another update:

At Anderson’s house Kurt and Lucas was standing watching his collection of model cars. Lucas looked really impressed as he said, “Wow you really do have lots of cars Kurt!”

Kurt grinned, “Well I’ve collected them for quite a while.”

“Which one is your favorite?” Lucas asked.

“That one,” Kurt pointed at a blue Maserati.

“Oh cool. We had a car like that in Italy,” Lucas said.

“Really?” Kurt asked. “So was that your mother and her husband…”

“Yeah my dad, Ray,” Lucas said.

“So where is your dad now?”

Lucas looked sad, “Mom and he have separated.”

“Oh I’m sorry,” Kurt said patting Lucas shoulder. “I’m sure things will work out.”

“I hope so,” Lucas said.

“So is it only you and your mom staying in the house now?”

“No, my sister Charlie lives with us too. At least until she and her boyfriend Randy gets their own place.”

“I see,” Kurt nodded, “No one else?”

“Well my sister’s Aunt just moved in with us!” Lucas said.

“Really?” Kurt asked. “She’s not your Aunt?”

“No. Charlie and I don’t have the same father.”

“I see. Well can you tell me something more about her?” Kurt asked, pushing down the button off a tape recorder.

However Lucas didn’t notice and said, “Sure, her name is Martha and she’s from Italy…” Kurt smiled as the kid went on feeding him information about his family!
 

Mrs Bobby James Ewing

Telly Talk Well-Known Member
Great updates Karin! :) I am really looking forward to Cliff, Afton, and Becky's family dinner with Bobby, Pam, Christopher, and Rebecca, but I am really disappointed in Jenna for not meeting her neighbors first before letting her son Lucas spend time with them after Naldo kidnapped Lucas's sister Charlie on orginal Dallas.:think::confuse: Jenna's neighbor Kurt is terrible pumping Lucas for information about his family and for recording him behind his back. :(I hope nothing bad happens to Lucas or his family since Kurt got Lucas to tell him all about his family. :(
 
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Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
@Karin Schill: Thank you so much for taking the time to tell me what you remember of Afton's storyline! :spinning:
I agree with you that Jenna really should keep better track of who her son is socializing with. I don't think she would let Lucas spend time at the Anderson's if she knew. But she thinks he is playing with the boy next door. :eck:
Well, the fact that Jenna didn't bother to at least go and say hello to their neighbor before letting her son go next door says a lot, IMO! :( I think that I give my children quite a lot of freedom (according to their respective age), but I've never allowed them to go into someone's house that I don't know and that I've never met (unless they're accompanied by other known and trusted adults)! :gotcha:.

But I do get that it perhaps had to be done this way for the storyline to work here! :wink@

You are right about Afton. Her not wanting to share her daughter with Cliff does make her come across as a bit bitchy.
:thank:
As for Bobby and Pam. He thought Pam's comment at the breakfast table was a bit weird. But they have not talked about it. I guess Bobby is of the opinion that it really doesn't matter if Pam was dating someone while in LA since he was married to April then. ;)
The likelihood that Pam was dating Richard during the week or two that Bobby was married to April is quite small! :D
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
In regards to the latest update, all I can say is that my worst fears came true! :( It was so wrong of Jenna to let Lucas go next door without checking up on things first! :mo:

Honestly, I hope that Lucas won't be a victim in this ordeal! :clap: And I wish for him to - soon - be united with his dad (Ray), since it's somewhat obvious that he needs a father figure around! :wink@

Please update soon! :best:
 

Karin

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Staff Member
Thank you everyone for the feedback. It's much appreciated as always. :thank:

Sanda, I agree that Jenna should have checked out Lucas new friend. But I guess back in the 80's and 90's parents were more trusting than today. At least in some parts of the world. Then as for what will happen. I am sorry but I can't tell you that as it would ruin the plot. What I can tell you however is that Kurt is not a child molestor. I think that would have been the worst thing if he had been. :eck:

Then as for Bobby and Pam's dinner date with Clif and Afton you are in luck as it's that update tonight...

Tommie,
I totally get why Lucas friendship with Kurt creeps you out. He does have an ulterior motif.

Ms Southworth, I think Bobby and April were probably married for about a month. As her kidnapping did drag out for a couple of episodes...

Yes you are right, the storyline wouldn't work if Lucas didn't spend time with Kurt. Right again about Lucas missing Ray badly.

Shan, I'm glad you still think the story is fantastic. :)

Okay so it's time for an update:


At Scalini’s Restaurant, Bobby, Pam, Christopher and Rebecca were sitting in a corner booth, waiting for Cliff, Afton and Becky to arrive. “Oh can’t Uncle Cliff get here soon, I’m hungry!” Christopher complained.

“You’re always hungry son,” Bobby smiled.

“There they are!” Pam pointed towards the door where Cliff, Afton and Becky have just walked into the restaurant.

“Finally,” Bobby said before he turned to Pam. “You’re nervous?”

“A little,” Pam said.

As the Maitre d’ showed Cliff, Afton and Becky towards the table Rebecca screamed, “Hi, we’re over here!” Rebecca waved her arms and people at the restaurant stared at them.

“Oh great, she doesn’t even know how to behave at a restaurant!” Christopher muttered.

“Honey,” Bobby pulled Rebecca back down into her seat. “You don’t say hi to someone until they’ve arrived at your table!”

“Oh really?” Rebecca frowned. “Hi!” Rebecca waved again as Cliff, Afton and Becky reached their table.

“Hi Rebecca, nice to see you,” Becky said.

“You too,” Rebecca smiled.

Bobby stood up, shaking hands with Cliff asking. “Hi, had any trouble finding the place?”

“No we just had to stop for…gas,” Cliff said.

“Dad’s bought a new car,” Becky informed the others.

“What kind of car is it Uncle Cliff?” Christopher asked.

“A hummer!” Cliff said proudly.

“Oh that’s a cool car,” Christopher said.

“It’s not a car, it’s a monster eating diesel,” Afton said.

“That sounds expensive, what have you done to my brother?” Pam said jokingly.

“Beats me,” Afton shrugged her shoulders. “He’s changed.”

“Well he might have, but you haven’t. You’re still as beautiful,” Bobby smiled. “Hello Afton.”

“Hi Bobby,” Afton smiled back. “I believe you haven’t met my daughter, Becky this is your uncle Bobby.”

Becky reached out a hand saying, “Hi, nice to meet you, I’m Pamela Rebecca Cooper!”

Bobby shook her hand and said, “Nice to finally meet you, your dad’s told me about you!” Bobby then turned to Chris and said, “This is your cousin Christopher.”

Becky smiled at the cute older boy and said, “I guess that means we’re related.”

“Yep,” Chris said, “Nice to meet you little cousin.”

“Becky, sit here next to me,” Rebecca screamed, patting to a place next to her in the booth.

“Okay,” Becky said and sat down next to Rebecca.

Cliff turned to Pam and said, “Pam, I’m so glad you agreed to this dinner!”

“Me too,” Pam smiled. “It’s so good to see you again.”

They sat down and a waitress walked up to them and asked, “Hi, you’re ready to order?”

“Yes,” Christopher said eagerly. “I’ll have a big portion of your Prime Delmonico Steak and a coke.”

“Make that two, minus the coke,” Bobby said.

“I’ll have a Grilled Salmon Salad,” Pam ordered.

“I want Spaghetti and meatballs,” Rebecca said, “With Sprite!”

“I want a cheese flatbread pizza and a sprite,” Becky said.

“I’d have a Chicken Parmesan and a white wine,” Afton said.

“And I’ll have a veal porterhouse and red wine,” Cliff said.

“And drinks for you Mr. and Mrs. Ewing?”

“We’d like a big bottle of champagne to share!”

“Certainly,” the waitress said and left.

“Champagne?” Cliff asked. “What are we celebrating?”

Bobby and Pam exchanged a look, “You tell him!”

“No you tell him!” Bobby said.

However Rebecca beat them both to the punch, “Mommy and Daddy are engaged!”

Cliff’s jaw dropped in surprise, “Is that true?”

“Yes, we’re gonna get married again,” Pam confirmed with a big smile on her face.

“Oh how wonderful. I’m so happy for you both!” Afton smiled.

“Cool, so does that mean we’d get to go to the wedding?” Becky asked before adding in a pouting voice, “Because my uncle Mitch didn’t invite us!”

“That’s because he got married in Australia!” Afton said.

“Of course we’d love to have you at the wedding, you and Rebecca can be my flower girls,” Pam smiled.

“Oh cool!” The girls cheered.

Bobby turned to Cliff and said, “Aren’t you gonna congratulate us Cliff?”

Cliff looked from Bobby to Christopher to Pam and smiled strained, “Oh sure, you just took me by surprise that’s all!”
 

Pammy P

Telly Talk Fan
Brilliant update on all, especially B & P, I wish this all was filmed! Original characters, excellent writing!
 

Sarah

Moderator Emerita
I am loving the story!! To give my two cents on Afton - she may have loved Cliff but she's also an extremely bitchy, hypocritical woman. She was so horrible to Sue Ellen for Sue Ellen's affair with Cliff - when she had herself slept with JR -but couldn't admit or see her own wrongdoing! I can't stand her!
 

Karin

Moderator
Staff Member
Thank you for the feedback. It's much appreciated. :)

Pammy, thanks for the compliment about my writing skills. :)
I think the fact that we write for the original characters and the original pairings from the show that already has a following probably plays a part in why other fans enjoy this story though. ;)

Sarah, I'm glad you're loving the story. :)
You do have a point about Afton. She did sleep with JR in his and Sue Ellen's bed and she slept with Gil Thurman so he would give Cliff that refinary. I think it says something about her character. Sure she evolved with time and became nicer and she did put up with a lot from Cliff because she did love him. But yes she could be bitchy.

I love Afton though, I guess it's because my first meeting with her was when she came back to town as Cliff's lost love and with his daughter. I met the woman she became rather than the girl she was when she first appeared on the show first. I guess that's what you get when you watch the end of a show first! :giggle:

Okay so time for an update:


At Southfork, JR was sitting on the bed in his room talking on the phone with Rattigan, “So what have you found?”

“Not much, apparently Luke was born in Kansas. Jennifer and Jessica were both born in North Dakota. The family just relocated from there. Their daughter Jessica is 24 years old and that’s about all I’ve got so far.”

“Well keep looking,” JR said annoyed.

“Then as for the background check on Pam and her daughter. I checked them up and her story seems to be true.”

JR's eyes narrowed, “Is that a fact?”

“Yeah they do live in LA and the woman goes to regular medical check-ups. I bribed an intern at the burn facility to copy her medical records and from what I can tell she is in fact Pamela Barnes Ewing.”

“Well tell me something I don’t know,” JR rolled his eyes.

“You want to know about the child?”

“Yes,” JR enquired. “Is she Bobby’s daughter?”

“She could very well be. According to her birth certificate it lists Pamela and Bobby Ewing as her natural parents.”

“Well birth certificates only say what people want them to say,” JR muttered, as he remembered well how Charlie’s birth certificate also listed Bobby as the father even though he wasn’t. “So when was she born?”

“January 15, 1988,” Rattigan replied. “Since Pam crashed her car in May 1987…”

“The child is likely to be Bobby’s if the date’s correct!” JR grinned, as he’d grown quite fond of his little niece.

“That’s the way it looks like to me. So is there anything else you want me to check up?”

“Yeah I want you to do some more digging on Pam. I want to find out everything she’s been up to since she left Dallas and in particularly if she’s dated other men, there’s a guy named Richard I want information on.”

“Okay I will do that, anything else?”

“I want to know if the Nelsons have any weak spots and why don’t you look for some dirt on Marilee Stone and her family as well?”

“Alright JR, I will do that.”

“Good, I’ll make it worth your while. Bye,” JR hung up the phone with a thoughtful expression on his face.
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
But I guess back in the 80's and 90's parents were more trusting than today. At least in some parts of the world.
I agree that parents were more trusting in the 80's and the 90's. Children would play outside for hours with other kids from the same neighborhood without constant parent supervision. :gotcha:

However, I don't think that most children back then were allowed to go inside other people's homes without their parents saying okay to it! :hat:

I think Bobby and April were probably married for about a month. As her kidnapping did drag out for a couple of episodes...
My memory is blurry, but didn't we go straight from their wedding ceremony to the honeymoon in Paris? :think: That's why I think that they were married a maximum of two weeks before she died! ;)

Yes you are right, the storyline wouldn't work if Lucas didn't spend time with Kurt.
But would it matter or make a difference, if Jenna had known that Kurt was the same guy they had met on their road trip? :think: She could have said "okay" to Lucas visiting him, couldn't she? :cooler:
 
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Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Amazing update from Scalini's Restaurant! :spinning: It had a lot of the unique "Dallas" atmosphere, and I loved it! :kiss: Full score once again, my dear Karin! :best:

A growing teenage boy is always hungry, so it's no surprise that Christopher was starving! :giggle:

LOL ... Rebecca's behavior when she noticed the arrival of Cliff, Afton, and Becky was hilarious! :lolo: And a minute later she went on to scream: “Becky, sit here next to me”! Quite normal for children her age to forget about their manners when they get excited! :giggle:

Afton's comment about Cliff's new wheels was so unappropriate that it was funny: “It’s not a car, it’s a monster eating diesel.” :rlol:
I really liked the exchange of words between Cliff and Pam! :kiss: It's obvious that brother and sister love each other!

I loved that Bobby and Pam were referred to as Mr. and Mrs. Ewing. And I also loved that they ordered champagne!

Perfect that Rebecca ended up being the one to share her parents' news: “Mommy and Daddy are engaged!” :loveit:

I could just picture Bobby saying to Cliff: “Aren’t you gonna congratulate us Cliff?” :D The same goes for Cliff's reply: “Oh sure, you just took me by surprise that’s all!” :p It had "Dallas" written all over it, if you know what I mean! :wink@

I'm looking forward to read much more of this amazing fanfic! :best:
 

Ms Southworth

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Great update with JR and Rattigan ... ... although I think that JR should mind his own business! :loveit:

Who are Luke, Jennifer, and Jessica? :think: Could they be the children of the Nelson family (who is new in town and also in charge of arranging the Oil Baron's Ball)? :think:

Rattigan seems to be working at a really slow pace! :rolleyes: It's been weeks and weeks, since JR hired him to look into Pam's years away from Dallas! :think: Why has it been so long since we've heard updates about Rattigan's search? o_O

Why am I not surprised that JR wants to dig up dirt on Richard and also Marilee Stone? :(

It's been a long time (storywise), since we've heard of the whereabouts of Marilee! Why is that, I have to wonder?

Perfect ending ... perfect writing ... very "Dallas": “Good, I’ll make it worth your while. Bye,” JR hung up the phone with a thoughtful expression on his face.

I'm anxiously awaiting the next updates! :) Please give us the daily fanfic dosis ... NOW ..., please? :dance:
 

Karin

Moderator
Staff Member
Thank you everyone for the feedback. :)

Thank you Silvie. :)

Too funny Tommie, but I know what you mean. Chris should of course never have married his cousin. I really didn't like that plot. Even though a love triangle of sorts were hinted at between John Ross, Chris and Pamela Rebecca in JR Returns too. So it was not just Cidre. Also sometimes I wonder if Rebecca was meant to be another character to start with but was crowbared in as Barnes to please the fans...:eck:

Ms Southworth, as for Lucas he asked Jenna's permission before he went to the "Anderson's". She said yes thinking it was another child Lucas had met. If she had known it was a grown man that she didn't know she would not have agreed to let him go into that house. Also when they met this summer the man gave her a bad vibe. So no if she had known it was that man she would not have agreed to it. :(

My memory is blurry, but didn't we go straight from their wedding ceremony to the honeymoon in Paris? :think: That's why I think that they were married a maximum of two weeks before she died! ;)

Bobby and April were married in the episode that was broadcast on April 27th 1990. Then there were two episodes left of the season where we see JR at the insane asylum. The season ends with that James let JR stay in there instead of releasing him.

The final season picks up with "April in Paris" which is broadcast on 2 november 1990. It is in that episode April is kidnapped. April is then kidnapped for another two episodes until she is finally killed in the episode that aired on 23rd November, 1990. So well if you take all this into consideration it's fair to say that Bobby and April were married for a little while before she was killed or?

They actually stopped by England with John Ross and Chris to visit Sue Ellen before they arrived in Paris. Since the left the boys with Sue Ellen while going to Paris. I don't know how long they stayed in England though.

I'm glad you enjoyed the dinner scene at the restaurant so much. :)
I think it's safe to say that Pam and Cliff's relationship is on the mend now...
Yeah I know what you mean when you say that some of the dialogue had Dallas written all over it. I can totally imagine the characters say those things to each other! ;)

Great update with JR and Rattigan ... ... although I think that JR should mind his own business! :loveit:

Who are Luke, Jennifer, and Jessica? :think: Could they be the children of the Nelson family (who is new in town and also in charge of arranging the Oil Baron's Ball)? :think:

Luke Nelson owns Nelson Oil which is a member of the cartel. Jennifer Nelson is his wife who had lunch with Miss Ellie to discuss the planning of the Oil Baron's Ball and Jessica Nelson is their daughter.

The reason it takes Rattigan so long to dig up the info is because I got the impression watching the show that he wasn't all that effective! :D
I much preferred Harry McSween who was acutally used in the first draft of this on some occasions. We had some scenes with Rattigan and some with Harry McSween. But well after having read that the actor who played McSween had died in 1992 we decided to change it to JR just using Rattigan. Also it's less confusing that way.

Then as for Marilee Stone, don't you worry there's a scene coming up with her later in this episode... ;)

I'm anxiously awaiting the next updates! :) Please give us the daily fanfic dosis ... NOW ..., please? :dance:

I'll do better than that, I'll give you a tripple treat tonight...

Since it's all short scenes. Anyway here's the first part of the update:


Outside of the restaurant were Bobby and Cliff standing talking while Christopher was inspecting the new car. Cliff said, “So you’re getting married to my sister again?”

“Yeah, do you have a problem with that?” Bobby asked.

“Well, I just…” Cliff swallowed. “Are you sure you know what you’re doing?”

“What do you mean?”

Cliff sighed. “Well Pam…hurt us all when she left. I just don’t want to see you and Christopher get hurt like that again!”

“Thanks for your concern Cliff, but I don’t think she’s going anywhere this time!”

“Are you sure about that?”

“No,” Bobby sighed. “But I still love her.”

“I see and Christopher, how’s he taking it?”

“Rather good, it was difficult at first but now he’s glad to have his mom back!”

“Well then you have my blessing,” Cliff said and the men shook hand. “I just hope everything works out for you this time!”
 

Karin

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Staff Member
Later that night at Wades’ house were Charlie and Randy lying in bed talking. “I just find it a little strange,” Randy said. “How did she know your mom was here?”

“She didn’t,” Charlie said. “They just happen to run into each other at the mall.”

“Yeah but if Martha and this Lorenzo lived in Mexico, why did she come to Dallas?” Randy pondered.

“I don’t know. Why didn’t you ask her yourself if you’re so curious?” Charlie gave Randy a questioning look and he sighed.

“I’m sorry I guess I’m just worried about you. I mean if he really is the violent type, things can get pretty bad if he shows up.”

Charlie smiled at him shaking her head, “Didn’t I already tell you, he doesn’t know who we are!”

“Yeah but the connection isn’t that hard to make. Your father was her brother, for crying out loud!”

“Randy,” Charlie said putting a hand on his chest. “Look Aunt Martha hasn’t had any contact with my grandparents or Aunt Anna in years. This Lorenzo Arrabell probably never even heard of them, and if he can’t find them there is no way he’ll find us!”

Randy sighed again. “Still I don’t like it. I think just to be on the safe side I should probably stay close by as long as she’s here!”

Charlie smiled teasingly at him, “Well I don’t mind that at all!” Charlie leant forward and kissed him and pretty soon Randy forgot all about his concerns for the Wades new houseguest.
 
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