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Dallas To Get Remastered In HD

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you guys know that Frasier is coming to bluray don't you? November 8th! a complete set is now up for Pre-order i'm at some point gonna buy that but not for awhile i think since there are 2 video games i want that are coming out next month.
Wow! Good news! His apartment was already perfect! Now is going to be bluray perfect!
I want his apartment! Or the one from Mary Tyler Moore show!
 

darkshadows38

Telly Talk Star
you know you got me thinking on how much cheaper it is if you buy a series on dvd or bluray but it depends on how much you pay for it and where you get it at. cause yes sometimes depending on which show you buy and if it's got a lot of seasons and where you get it than yes it is cheaper to prolly go streaming, but if you get a good sale and you don't always have to buy the product new i don't. i found Ghost Whisperer for $4.99 at f.. Goodwill they had the entire series except for Season 4 and seasons 2 and 5 were Sealed! that was cheaper than buying the complete series they have at Wallmart. Fraiser is gonna be $130 bucks so if you wait until the price goes down and don't buy it on the day it comes out it may be cheaper than spending all that money on streaming.

with Doctor Who the classic show on bluray that's a bit different since that show had 26 seasons and only 20 of them are Complete yet we are gonna get Season 2 FINALLY i'm not even sure what date that is yet? so even those look fantastic on bluray i have a some myself it's no doubt cheaper to stream it though i don't care i'm still gonna get them all on bluray! there are some dvd's i do keep that i know are out of print if i upgrade it and there are others i get rid of when i upgrade it.

for me it's cheaper to just buy it one time on dvd or bluray like i really doubt Dark Shadows will ever make it to bluray. course we all said that about Doctor who as well for years and we were all wrong apparently. but if you have Prime for example it's cheaper than buying all those on prime though prime doesn't have Classic Doctor who though. but if you have prime it is cheaper per years to buy that instead of the complete series of Supernatural the box set that came out a year or so ago that's over $200 bucks. i have the entire show on bluray except for i think 3 seasons i want to say? and not all of them i bought new either. you just have to price shop before you buy that's all.
 

harry96

Telly Talk Newbie
You people are out of your minds; this thread has strong "old man yells at cloud" vibes. I seriously didn't even know until I saw this thread that physical discs were even being made anymore. For the price of one DVD, you can stream an amount of content for one month that would literally cost thousands and thousands of dollars to buy on DVDs. And some things, like Dallas, you can stream free, at least for now. And you can buy access to a lot of things like Dallas forever on Amazon for about the same cost as DVDs (at least for as long as Amazon is in business, which certainly doesn't appear to be changing anytime soon).

I know, I know: it might be taken down, especially if you didn't buy it. Everything in life is a trade-off; I'll gladly take many thousands of dollars of DVDs streaming at my fingertips, with no discs to change, to take up space, or to get damaged, and no players to buy or replace. And so will most other people, which is why physical media absolutely is dying (although it may continue in niche form as some have noted, like vinyl).

Regardless, I commend all of you senior citizens for figuring out how to use a message board like this. :D
 

pete lashmar

Telly Talk Addict
You people are out of your minds; this thread has strong "old man yells at cloud" vibes. I seriously didn't even know until I saw this thread that physical discs were even being made anymore. For the price of one DVD, you can stream an amount of content for one month that would literally cost thousands and thousands of dollars to buy on DVDs. And some things, like Dallas, you can stream free, at least for now. And you can buy access to a lot of things like Dallas forever on Amazon for about the same cost as DVDs (at least for as long as Amazon is in business, which certainly doesn't appear to be changing anytime soon).

I know, I know: it might be taken down, especially if you didn't buy it. Everything in life is a trade-off; I'll gladly take many thousands of dollars of DVDs streaming at my fingertips, with no discs to change, to take up space, or to get damaged, and no players to buy or replace. And so will most other people, which is why physical media absolutely is dying (although it may continue in niche form as some have noted, like vinyl).

Regardless, I commend all of you senior citizens for figuring out how to use a message board like this. :D
Nothing wrong at all with buying DVDs or BluRays - each to their own, you gotta spend your money on what you want and what gives you pleasure in life. The fact that you didn't know that physical discs were still being made though is odd....maybe you're the senior citizen .
 
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the-lost-son

Telly Talk Well-Known Member
You people are out of your minds; this thread has strong "old man yells at cloud" vibes. I seriously didn't even know until I saw this thread that physical discs were even being made anymore.
Nobody knows what the future might bring . But nothing lasts forever.

"The top eight US media groups plan to spend at least $115bn on new movies and television shows next year in pursuit of a video streaming business that loses money for most of them."

It's a rat race and we the consumer are benefitting right now. It doesn't seem likely that every streaming provider is going to survive. I highly doubt that with these enormous investments we will pay +/- 10 bucks/month in the future. There will be an increased pressure to increase prices and to put commercials into streaming as well changing the whole game once more.

Being a teacher myself I'm quite aware that young people don't buy DVDs (or go to the movies anymore either). I'm not sure how this is going to develop, but I doubt that streaming will become the only source of television at one time.

20 years ago they declared to death of the printed book. They are still there with cook book sales even having increased in the last 10 years. So I regard the death of the discs as rumors which are greatly exaggerated. :)
 
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darkshadows38

Telly Talk Star
you can go to any Wallmart and see and big ass bins of dvd's with some blurays. each year they do a black friday of sale and have tons of both and those go really damn quick. so people still buy physical discs. in the 1950's the studios were scared to death that tv would kill the movies and to a degree they were right yes people still went but they weren't as much as in the 1940's for example before tv made it big in the 50's. we should always have the choice of wanting to own it on physical medium or stream it. as it's been said certain area's have lousy internet connection so they use physical medium. ours isn't the best but it's okay.

there are people who download movies and if they love it they go and see it on the big screen sometimes more than once. you never know what's gonna be big next in 2 years from now to throw a random amount years in there streaming could die down some still make tons of money. i still buy physical books in fact i always buy Stephen King's new book each time he puts one out and other authors i love too.
 
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darkshadows38

Telly Talk Star
reading a page back i did forget to mention that streaming services always do take stuff out i honestly have no idea if it ever comes back does anyone know that? but if i want to watch any episode of the X-files though i don't own the last 2 seasons that fox later did not yet anyways. i can just go to my shelf and put in whatever season i am at i'm currently on Season 3 i think? i started but never finished when i started the show over again for who knows what number? lol
 
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Snarky Oracle!

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You people are out of your minds; this thread has strong "old man yells at cloud" vibes. I seriously didn't even know until I saw this thread that physical discs were even being made anymore. For the price of one DVD, you can stream an amount of content for one month that would literally cost thousands and thousands of dollars to buy on DVDs. And some things, like Dallas, you can stream free, at least for now. And you can buy access to a lot of things like Dallas forever on Amazon for about the same cost as DVDs (at least for as long as Amazon is in business, which certainly doesn't appear to be changing anytime soon).

I know, I know: it might be taken down, especially if you didn't buy it. Everything in life is a trade-off; I'll gladly take many thousands of dollars of DVDs streaming at my fingertips, with no discs to change, to take up space, or to get damaged, and no players to buy or replace. And so will most other people, which is why physical media absolutely is dying (although it may continue in niche form as some have noted, like vinyl).

Regardless, I commend all of you senior citizens for figuring out how to use a message board like this. :D

Obviously, you work for somebody. Nice try.
 

CeeCee72

Telly Talk Star
You people are out of your minds; this thread has strong "old man yells at cloud" vibes. I seriously didn't even know until I saw this thread that physical discs were even being made anymore. For the price of one DVD, you can stream an amount of content for one month that would literally cost thousands and thousands of dollars to buy on DVDs. And some things, like Dallas, you can stream free, at least for now. And you can buy access to a lot of things like Dallas forever on Amazon for about the same cost as DVDs (at least for as long as Amazon is in business, which certainly doesn't appear to be changing anytime soon).

I know, I know: it might be taken down, especially if you didn't buy it. Everything in life is a trade-off; I'll gladly take many thousands of dollars of DVDs streaming at my fingertips, with no discs to change, to take up space, or to get damaged, and no players to buy or replace. And so will most other people, which is why physical media absolutely is dying (although it may continue in niche form as some have noted, like vinyl).

Regardless, I commend all of you senior citizens for figuring out how to use a message board like this. :D
I think what you don't get is that most of us DO stream. I personally have 6 different streaming subscriptions.

I don't buy a lot of DVDS. But I still buy complete collections of TV series that I love (although honestly, I don't think I've purchased any two or three years - since Game of Thrones ended). Why? Because as you said, the shows might disappear. Also, believe it or not, some shows aren't available for streaming (Homicide Life on the Streets" comes to mind).

Pricing is also a factor. I love a lot of HBO produced shows, but I already pay close to sixty dollars a month for streaming and I don't want to pay an HBO subscription simply because I sometimes have the urge to watch "The Wire."
 

Knots4ever

Telly Talk Active Member
Something that is being overlooked by everybody who is scared that stuff disappears from streaming services is that this no longer will be the case because, exactly because, each content owner now has its own streaming service.

Desperate Housewives, Scandal, Greys Anatomy and Brothers & Sisters have vanished from most services (apart from where you can buy them) because they are owned by Disney and Disney no longer sells streaming rights. Instead it puts them on Disney+/Star/Hulu and that’s where they will stay.

The same will apply to Dallas, Knots and Falcon Crest once the Warner Discovery Service is finalised. Dallas and FC will leave Freevee eventually and find their home for eternity on whatever the Warner Discovery Service will be called. Knots will hopefully join.

As opposed to discs, no costs are incurred by the content owners to have those shows sitting on their own streaming services.
 

Mustard

Telly Talk TV Fanatic
Something that is being overlooked by everybody who is scared that stuff disappears from streaming services is that this no longer will be the case because, exactly because, each content owner now has its own streaming service.

Desperate Housewives, Scandal, Greys Anatomy and Brothers & Sisters have vanished from most services (apart from where you can buy them) because they are owned by Disney and Disney no longer sells streaming rights. Instead it puts them on Disney+/Star/Hulu and that’s where they will stay.

The same will apply to Dallas, Knots and Falcon Crest once the Warner Discovery Service is finalised. Dallas and FC will leave Freevee eventually and find their home for eternity on whatever the Warner Discovery Service will be called. Knots will hopefully join.

As opposed to discs, no costs are incurred by the content owners to have those shows sitting on their own streaming services.
The fact is, the ordinary person is not in control of it anymore. The trajectory is obvious and a way of getting loads of money out of people in subscription fees in future.
 

Knots4ever

Telly Talk Active Member
The fact is, the ordinary person is not in control of it anymore. The trajectory is obvious and a way of getting loads of money out of people in subscription fees in future.
That is true but content owners have to make money somehow. Linear TV is dying so to get shows like Dallas, the money needs to come from somewhere. If CBS (example) doesn’t have the money to order an expensive show from Warner (example) then there won’t be a show unless Warner find other ways of making money.

Printing DVDs requires an upfront investment, if that money isn’t there or if the returns don’t warrant the upfront investment then they won’t be printed.

It’s a change, it’s different but things have always changed and will always change. A business has to earn money to stay viable.

Content owners putting their huge catalogues of shows and movies on their owned and operated streaming services generates income which can then be invested to create new content.

If there is an opportunity to generate profits from having a reduced number of box sets for die-hard collectors, then physical media will remain available. If the numbers don’t add up then that won’t be the case. Obviously other things will factor in too - if hardware to play physical discs will be phased out because no one buys them in sufficient numbers, then discs will follow.
 

pete lashmar

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Watching your favourite shows on a streaming platform is fine, however with the HD restoration of Dallas completed at quite a cost I would imagine a physical release/box set is inevitable simply to get some of those costs back - which is fantastic news for us collectors and we can watch it whenever we want.

I only subscribe to Netflix at present and will stop that in the new year with no plans to subscribe to any other platform. I buy what I want to watch, it's a one off payment and suits me far better than a costly monthly subscription.
 

Knots4ever

Telly Talk Active Member
Watching your favourite shows on a streaming platform is fine, however with the HD restoration of Dallas completed at quite a cost I would imagine a physical release/box set is inevitable simply to get some of those costs back - which is fantastic news for us collectors and we can watch it whenever we want.

I only subscribe to Netflix at present and will stop that in the new year with no plans to subscribe to any other platform. I buy what I want to watch, it's a one off payment and suits me far better than a costly monthly subscription.
There’s likely going to be a box set but the profit margins are small and are becoming smaller. Putting a show on an owned streaming service costs nothing so all income is profit. If you additionally license the show to AVOD services like Freevee or Pluto all income from that adds to the profits.

Boxsets have upfront costs and you only make a small profit if they sell as forecast. If you sell less than anticipated your profits are wiped out.
 

pete lashmar

Telly Talk Addict
There’s likely going to be a box set but the profit margins are small and are becoming smaller. Putting a show on an owned streaming service costs nothing so all income is profit. If you additionally license the show to AVOD services like Freevee or Pluto all income from that adds to the profits.

Boxsets have upfront costs and you only make a small profit if they sell as forecast. If you sell less than anticipated your profits are wiped out.
Yes and no, it all depends on what has been agreed with actors repeat fees. The cast already signed off on the DVD/physical disc sales but for streaming they may or may not have to agree again, so there could still be costs involved - streaming doesn't come under syndication as far as I know, it's a new contractual service.
 
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Knots4ever

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Yes and no, it all depends on what has been agreed with actors repeat fees. The cast already signed off on the DVD/physical disc sales but for streaming they may or may not have to agree again, so there could still be costs involved - streaming doesn't come under syndication as far as I know, it's a new contractual service.
That’s been sorted already though as Dallas is available on Freevee (as is Falcon Crest).
 

Knots4ever

Telly Talk Active Member
Is Freevee owned by Warner Bros? Because if it isn't I predict it will get pulled off it and put on to a streaming site owned by Warner's or one of its subsidiary companies.
No, it’s Amazon and while they simply license all classic tv, their catalogue is huge.
Warner Discovery has already said that licensing parts of their massive library is part of their new strategy. The new streaming service replacing HBO Max and Discovery Plus will have everything but not everything it has will be exclusive to it.
 
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