Did Miss Ellie Have The Right To Give Southfork To Garrison?

[Lastkidpicked]

BTW, the guys I would find most interesting are those that never say look at me, but say look over there. I’m just a quiet guy having dinner at a modest restaurant.

Interesting point, Steve.

And you might have noticed something that goes hand in hand with your post. The guy in the older truck, the guy who eats in the modest restaurant, the guy who wears off the rack suits is the one most trustworthy when it comes to money. He's the one where the check always clears, he's the one where you send him an invoice and it gets paid on time. This makes me think of Punk Anderson.



Funny thing-- the guy with the brand new truck, the flashy clothes and all of that. This is the guy where you try to cash the check and it's always, "That check bounced? It must be a problem at the bank." And you send him an invoice that doesn't get paid. "Oh, I'm sorry! I thought that my secretary took care of that last week."

Interesting that those guys manage to keep up the lease payments on their luxury cars and flashy lifestyles, but never anything else.

Or as @stevew would say, "All hat and no cattle."

 

[stevew]

Interesting point, Steve.

And you might have noticed something that goes hand in hand with your post. The guy in the older truck, the guy who eats in the modest restaurant, the guy who wears off the rack suits is the one most trustworthy when it comes to money. He's the one where the check always clears, he's the one where you send him an invoice and it gets paid on time. This makes me think of Punk Anderson.

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Funny thing-- the guy with the brand new truck, the flashy clothes and all of that. This is the guy where you try to cash the check and it's always, "That check bounced? It must be a problem at the bank." And you send him an invoice that doesn't get paid. "Oh, I'm sorry! I thought that my secretary took care of that last week."

Interesting that those guys manage to keep up the lease payments on their luxury cars and flashy lifestyles, but never anything else.

Or as @stevew would say, "All hat and no cattle."

I’d like to think I’d say that. And yes Punk is a good example. It’s where I would have taken JR’s character. By 2012 (and with LH’s health issues) I could see JR driving a ‘92 MB and meeting in a quite, dark bar with a vast and hidden portfolio of properties. Where of course the out there in the public Carlos DelSol arranges a million in cash for him. Leave everyone wondering, where does JR live. I could see JR evolve into that shadow figure in the family. And I’m pretty sure his checks would clear.

 

[stevew]

There is one thing the writers didn't get into, so I'll get into it for you.

In Texas, a ranch is a real status symbol. Many lawyers, bankers, and others who meet with clients will have a ranch (although not as big as Southfork).

Why is this?

Because other status symbols can only go so far. Anybody can buy or lease an expensive car. Anybody can buy expensive clothes and take clients to expensive dinners.
A true way that a Texan can show they are successful? Owning a working ranch where you can occasionally invite clients.

Here's an example:

"Thank you for calling today, @Billy Wall . I'd like to take you to an expensive dinner and we can talk business."
Yes, that's nice. But anybody can do that. Compare this to:

"Thank you for calling today, @stevew . I generally take Wednesdays off to go over things at the ranch. Why don't you come out to the ranch Wednesday and we can discuss business over lunch? We can have Theresa and Raul cook us up some nice steaks. "

Now, who could say no to that?

On a personal note, I'm more like Ray Krebbs than Jock Ewing. But I have a little place. And just last week one of my competitors asked if he could come by the shop and borrow a trailer.

"Forget the shop," I told him. "Come on out to my place after work. I'll help you hook up to the trailer and we'll crack open a beer or five."

Have I ever told you I love Texas? Good times. . .

I find the guys who go in to an office every day are the employees - JR, Bobby. The guys that have you come out to their house are the owners - Jock.

 

[Jabari Lamar]

Interesting point, Steve.

And you might have noticed something that goes hand in hand with your post. The guy in the older truck, the guy who eats in the modest restaurant, the guy who wears off the rack suits is the one most trustworthy when it comes to money. He's the one where the check always clears, he's the one where you send him an invoice and it gets paid on time. This makes me think of Punk Anderson.

Or, in real-life, it makes me think of the Late Sam Walton, founder of Wal-Mart. He was known for his somewhat extreme "normalcy", driving around in a pick-up truck with his dog, eating at a diner for breakfast, even shopping at his local Wal-Mart, standing in line at the cashier like a regular customer.

 

[Jabari Lamar]

There seems to be a little confusion on who actually owned Southfork when Jock was alive. We all know Jock saved the ranch many years ago. It would seem quite odd that Jock wouldn’t have his name on the deed after all those years, but Miss Ellie would insist that Clayton be partial owner after about 4 years of marriage.

I know TV shows can be quite bad with continuity, but looking at it again, it also seem quite odd for Miss Ellie to just hand over Southfork to a brother they all thought was dead without even discussing it with Jock, but then get bent out of shape when Jock rearranged the trust fund to include Ray.

Others have been called out for being hypocrites, was Miss Ellie being hypocritical?

I think as some others have noted it was more of a matter of if this is what Miss Ellie really wanted thenJock would ultimately go along with it. He knew it was her family ranch, and wouldn't necessarily have the same emotional tie to the land that J.R. and Bobby, who were born and raised there, would (although of course, we know J.R.'s main objection would be losing the rights to the oil under Section 40).

As for whether Miss Ellie was being hypocritical later regarding Jock and Ray I'm not sure I see similarities?