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Especially Alex and Peter, such an exciting storyline. I wanted more!
Forgotten soaps of the 90's
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While we're on the subject of shows whose premise got tinkered with, did any of you watch Legacy on UPN in 1998-99? I vaguely remember it being aired in Ireland and the UK on something like the Hallmark Channel. I looked it up and from what I've read, it started out as a western drama before producers decided to turn it into a soapier show midway through.
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Reading about it there seems to have been an evil stepmother type of character introduced at some point? Sounds like a soap to me.
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I'd like to see that!
I'd like to see that!
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Sounds like her arrival was the turning point when the show moved from Dr. Quinn to Dr. Michael Mancini territory.
"The network wanted to “soap opera” up the show a bit, “Melrose Place” it, as it were, by bringing on the woman who played my new wife."
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It's all on YouTube for our viewing pleasure.
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Legacy was already pretty soapy when it started. Single father raising four kids... oldest son engaged to wealthy daughter of the most powerful guy in town while secretly in love with the daughter of a former slave.. youngest son feeling unloved by his father and in the shadow of his older brother, oldest daughter taking on the mom role while still a teen, and the youngest child being the wisest.
I do think it naturally became more soapy as the season went on.. but it was pretty soapy at it's start.
I do think it naturally became more soapy as the season went on.. but it was pretty soapy at it's start.
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Watching the Legacy Pilot right now! I love discovering new soaps.
Don't forget the street urchin (The Outsider) they're taking in - yeah, it's pretty much a soap at heart at the start. I can see them trying to add the new wife to make the show "pop" later on in the season.
Don't forget the street urchin (The Outsider) they're taking in - yeah, it's pretty much a soap at heart at the start. I can see them trying to add the new wife to make the show "pop" later on in the season.
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Having watched two episodes of Legacy it's not a bad show in itself. It definitively has soapy elements but is so far being held down by being a bit "earnest". It's nothing to binge on but I'll watch an episode here or there until at least the wicked stepmother arrives. I can see why they felt they needed something more.
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I've somehow made it to episode #5 of Legacy just by having it on while doing other things and dear lord is it repetitive at times - "Street Urchin does bad thing. Everyone's mad at Street Urchin. Looks like Street Urchin might be going away! No, don't worry, everyone forgives Street Urchin.". We. Get. It.
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Episodes of Hyperion Bay have been uploaded for the first time in a while. It's not the full series. Just the first half of the series before they brought Carmen Electra in as a poor man's Amanda Woodward.
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Now Hyperion Bay... that was a show that anyone with a brain could see wouldn't survive turning into a soap. Legacy, Melrose Place, and Beverly Hills 90210 had the elements in place that when they became more soapy, it wasn't so jarring... but Hyperion Bay didn't have those elements, imho.
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Here's an episode from when Carmen Electra came on board. In the first few minutes you can see they were trying to push her as the show's Amanda style ballbreaker but it just doesn't wash.
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I think it could have worked as a village/community soap, and even a bit of Empire Valley!
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Sampling Winnetka Road and it's soapier than I thought - I wonder how they got Ed Begley Jr to do this?
I could actually see this have survived into the 90s, but yet again, CBS didn't seem interested in it just like with 2000 Malibu Road. Would it have worked on Fox? Nah, too many old folks, seems like a mis-match. Still, with better promotion and more episodes it might've grown into something special.
I could actually see this have survived into the 90s, but yet again, CBS didn't seem interested in it just like with 2000 Malibu Road. Would it have worked on Fox? Nah, too many old folks, seems like a mis-match. Still, with better promotion and more episodes it might've grown into something special.
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Winnetka Road was a mid season replacement for the similarly soapy Sisters. I'm guessing that NBC were hoping to draw in enough of that audience to give the show a full season order for the 1994-95 schedule, possibly in the 9pm slot preceding Sisters. From what I've read online, the show did rate well but ultimately wasn't picked up by NBC.
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I'll have to say that Winnetka Road was an enjoyable little ride and I think NBC missed a trick not picking it up for more. It's a tad awkward at one point because the hostage incident in the episode was pulled is referenced though, but that episode isn't available. It does end with a nice tie-up, so it works as a mini-series too I guess.