How Would Sue Ellen Have Reacted to James

[Ray_Krebbs]

It is a shame Sue Ellen had to leave just before James came along. I think those two had a lot of potential. Initially, I could see her viewing him as a threat to John Ross's inheritance and J.R.'s love. I think she'd mellow and embrace him. Those two could have collaborated to keep J.R. committed. What are your thoughts

 

[James from London]

Depending on her mood, or that of the scriptwriters, she might have seduced him, employed him ("the Valentine Boy"), quasi-adopted him, schemed with him, schemed against him or any combination thereof.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Or she might have let him interview her.

 

[Angela Channing]

It might have created an interesting dynamic because with James being the first son, Sue Ellen's son moves down the pecking order which might have made Sue Ellen feel compelled to fight for John Ross to keep his position as the heir to Ewing Oil ahead his older half brother.

 

[Ray_Krebbs]

I also think James should have been in J.R. Returns. He and Sue Ellen could have gotten Ewing Oil, and Bobby does his ranch stuff like he wanted to.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Well, if even Miss Ellie had little reaction to James -- her own grandson!, then I'm not sure why Sue Ellen would.

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

Depending on her mood, or that of the scriptwriters, she might have seduced him, employed him ("the Valentine Boy"), quasi-adopted him, schemed with him, schemed against him or any combination thereof.

I think she should've seduced him! During a passionate embrace she would scream out "Oh Peter!" That would put him off her as he then finds out she was seeing a rather camp counselor a few years ago!

 

[Ray_Krebbs]

Another odd thought is... what if they did hook up, and he got her pregnant, and she wound up being the mother of Jimmy

 

[Monzo]

It would have been nice for Sue Ellen, but when things eventually got rough with JR again, she would have teamed up with James against JR at the end of season 13.

I would have been more interested in a meeting between Sue Ellen and Vanessa. Maybe that would have allowed Sue Ellen to understand why JR behaved the way he did - because Vanessa had previously broken his heart.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Not well, initially, but I think she would have utilized him as an ally if the situation was right

 

[Seaviewer]

With a yawn, probably, like the rest of us.

 

[Taylor Bennett Jr.]

I think if Sue Ellen would have run into @James from London during her time in the UK (which would have been quite possible seeing that she had joined hubby Don Lockwood in the industry) they would have had a ton to talk about, given James’s deep knowledge of all things Dallas.

..oh, you mean that other James from the show. No idea, then..

 

[Michelle Stevens]

It would have been nice for Sue Ellen, but when things eventually got rough with JR again, she would have teamed up with James against JR at the end of season 13.

I would have been more interested in a meeting between Sue Ellen and Vanessa. Maybe that would have allowed Sue Ellen to understand why JR behaved the way he did - because Vanessa had previously broken his heart.

Great points! It would have been nice to see how Sue Ellen dealt with the Vanessa/James dynamic if she had stayed. I had wished that in TNT Dallas that James would have been involved and how he would have connected with the 2012 versions of Sue Ellen and John Ross.

 

[Rove]

I had wished that in TNT Dallas that James would have been involved

I'm usually against recasts but in this circumstance I would have been fine if Sasha Mitchell was left out of TNT Dallas.

 

[Ray_Krebbs]

I wonder if Linda Gray and Sasha Mitchell ever met. It'd be interesting to see a picture featuring both of them.

 

[pete lashmar]

It would have been an interesting storyline for Sue Ellen and JR - just when the marriage was over for good she gets one final betrayal - it would have been a much better way to write her out.

Also, this was J.R being watered down again - in the past he would have made sure that James was his son, instead he just accepted it. Ol' J.R would never have done that.

 

[CeeCee72]

It would have been an interesting storyline for Sue Ellen and JR - just when the marriage was over for good she gets one final betrayal - it would have been a much better way to write her out.

Also, this was J.R being watered down again - in the past he would have made sure that James was his son, instead he just accepted it. Ol' J.R would never have done that.

Not sure he would have. He never made a move to find out if John Ross was really is (it was Cliff who demanded the blood test) and he never bothered to question whether Kristen's baby was his either.

 

[Toni]

I did have Sue Ellen interact with James in my fanfic "Ewing Empire", and their first scenes were quite sparkly, so to say. She even slapped the hell out of James´s face (something some fans would kill to see) at some point, and watched him very closely to prevent him from influencing on John Ross the wrong way. Though I wouldn´t have got them together as a couple (Peter Richards´ redux + Oedipus touch). I wonder if Linda Gray even knows that there was a bastard coming in after she left the show...

Here is James in an outtake of one of the episodes of the last season of "Dallas"
(so yes, he could get worse...)​

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

Another odd thought is... what if they did hook up, and he got her pregnant, and she wound up being the mother of Jimmy

It's certainly something she would've done.

Sue Ellen had one vice, vodka & she would've done anything for a bottle of it!

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

I think if Sue Ellen would have run into @James from London during her time in the UK (which would have been quite possible seeing that she had joined hubby Don Lockwood in the industry) they would have had a ton to talk about, given James’s deep knowledge of all things Dallas.

..oh, you mean that other James from the show. No idea, then..

I still think she would've seduced him!

@James from London probably would've enjoyed it!