It Was Cruel Of Jock To Put An Interest Stipulation On Gary’s Inheritance.

Billy Wall

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I just got done watching that episode. It was like one last strike against Gary from the grave by Jock. We all know Gary had issues, but to treat him like a 15 year old and put stipulation on his inheritance where you didn’t do that to anybody’s else, especially Ray who has been a Ewing for about 2 years, was degrading.

What love Gary had for Jock was probably gone at that time.
 

Snarky Oracle!

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Well, you want to keep Abby's hands off it.
 

Jimmy Todd

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Well, you want to keep Abby's hands off it.
Lol, ostensibly yes, but if it wasn't for Abby that 10% probably wouldn't have gone nearly as far as it did. I also wished that when Abby came back for the final episode she had made some remark about Tidal Energy, which cost Gary his fortune. She would never have let that happen no matter how many Ciji lookalikes she'd have to hire. As for Joseph who sold Gary out for an academic position, the blue-eyed, she-devil would have made sure the only job he'd get in academia would be sweeping up the cafeteria(not that there's anything wrong with an honest living).
Regarding Jock: to play Devil's Advocate, could it be viewed as a bit of tough love? It's humiliating, but an intervention can be humiliating. Gary does not have a good track record when it comes to responsibility. He even abandoned his wife and daughter. 10 million is a lot of responsibility. Why should Jock take the chance that Gary will use Jock's hard earned money to buy a jet that he'll crash into a populated area? Didn't Karen make the observation that Gary takes risks and other people end up paying the price for them?
When Gary complained to Bobby about it, Bobby could have rightfully said that Jock doesn't owe Gary anything, and if he acted as an adult than he would be treated as one.
Besides, considering his relationship with Jock it's surprising he didn't put any other conditions on it, such as he still had to be married to Valene, whom Jock considered Gary's "anchor."
One other thing, Gary still took the money with the condition.
 
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Snarky Oracle!

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Gary is a grown man. That’s his problem.

Jock was a grown man, too, and he can write his will as he chooses -- and Jesus knows he did.

But I don't disagree.

Was it cruel and humiliating? Yes. Should Jock have done it? Probably not.

But it was far less cruel than Jock's will overall -- a will that pitted JR and Bobby, brother against brother, in a year-long battle that would inevitably result in the meltdown of the family, leave literal bodies in its wake, and then be neutralized with a mysterious letter 12 months later that was guaranteed to keep his reprobate eldest son at the company's helm (i.e., if JR wins, he wins and ignores the letter; if Bobby wins, he respects the wishes of the letter and so JR's still in anyway -- which means he's still running the company of course) and continue Jock's passive-aggressive, Mephistophelian death grip over the family he'd turned cripplingly dysfunctional even long after he was gone -- and all they could do was to thank and revere him for it.

We only met the later sweet-sweet grandpa incarnation of Jock Ewing by the time the series started. But there's every reason to believe he wasn't, by any means, the finest man that God ever put on this earth.

So, yeah, it was cruel, but Gary got off easy, wisely leaving Southfork at 16. Even if he had to live with only on his inheritance's interest for 5 years.

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Toni

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Jimmy Todd

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Jock was a grown man, too, and he can write his will as he chooses -- and Jesus knows he did.

But I don't disagree.

Was it cruel and humiliating? Yes. Should Jock have done it? Probably not.

But it was far less cruel than Jock's will overall -- a will that pitted JR and Bobby, brother against brother, in a year-long battle that would inevitably result in the meltdown of the family, leave literal bodies in its wake, and then be neutralized with a mysterious letter 12 months later that was guaranteed to keep his reprobate eldest son at the company's helm (i.e., if JR wins, he wins and ignores the letter; if Bobby wins, he respects the wishes of the letter and so JR's still in anyway -- which means he's still running the company of course) and continue Jock's passive-aggressive, Mephistophelian death grip over the family he'd turned cripplingly dysfunctional even long after he was gone -- and all they could do to was thank and revere him for it.

We only met the later sweet-sweet grandpa incarnation of Jock Ewing by the time the series started. But there's every reason to believe his wasn't, by any means, the finest man that God ever put on this earth.

So, yeah, it was cruel, but Gary got off easy, wisely leaving Southfork at 16. Even if he had to live with only on his inheritance's interest for 5 years.

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Valid points.
One if the great things about Dallas is so much of the history we didn't see but was hinted at. This adds to the intrigue.
For example, Valene's take on her time with the Ewings changed frequently. Sometimes it was all the Ewings were horrible to her, than it was only Bobby treated her with respect, than Jock had a soft spot for her, and then it was really just JR. People's memories are tricky so her and Gary's life with them is a goldmine to ponder.
 
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Billy Wall

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Jock was a grown man, too, and he can write his will as he chooses -- and Jesus knows he did.

But I don't disagree.

Was it cruel and humiliating? Yes. Should Jock have done it? Probably not.

But it was far less cruel than Jock's will overall -- a will that pitted JR and Bobby, brother against brother, in a year-long battle that would inevitably result in the meltdown of the family, leave literal bodies in its wake, and then be neutralized with a mysterious letter 12 months later that was guaranteed to keep his reprobate eldest son at the company's helm (i.e., if JR wins, he wins and ignores the letter; if Bobby wins, he respects the wishes of the letter and so JR's still in anyway -- which means he's still running the company of course) and continue Jock's passive-aggressive, Mephistophelian death grip over the family he'd turned cripplingly dysfunctional even long after he was gone -- and all they could do to was thank and revere him for it.

We only met the later sweet-sweet grandpa incarnation of Jock Ewing by the time the series started. But there's every reason to believe his wasn't, by any means, the finest man that God ever put on this earth.

So, yeah, it was cruel, but Gary got off easy, wisely leaving Southfork at 16. Even if he had to live with only on his inheritance's interest for 5 years.

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Well said.
 

Jimmy Todd

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Jock was a grown man, too, and he can write his will as he chooses -- and Jesus knows he did.

But I don't disagree.

Was it cruel and humiliating? Yes. Should Jock have done it? Probably not.

But it was far less cruel than Jock's will overall -- a will that pitted JR and Bobby, brother against brother, in a year-long battle that would inevitably result in the meltdown of the family, leave literal bodies in its wake, and then be neutralized with a mysterious letter 12 months later that was guaranteed to keep his reprobate eldest son at the company's helm (i.e., if JR wins, he wins and ignores the letter; if Bobby wins, he respects the wishes of the letter and so JR's still in anyway -- which means he's still running the company of course) and continue Jock's passive-aggressive, Mephistophelian death grip over the family he'd turned cripplingly dysfunctional even long after he was gone -- and all they could do to was thank and revere him for it.

We only met the later sweet-sweet grandpa incarnation of Jock Ewing by the time the series started. But there's every reason to believe his wasn't, by any means, the finest man that God ever put on this earth.

So, yeah, it was cruel, but Gary got off easy, wisely leaving Southfork at 16. Even if he had to live with only on his inheritance's interest for 5 years.

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Brilliant, Snarly!
You also show how well written season 6 was because in addition to being exciting, it laid out all the dysfunction, the obvious and not so obvious. You are so right about that letter in which he asked Bobby and JR to work together "like brothers?"as if he's a benevolent, Burl Ives type patriarch when, as you pointed out, it really was quite a bit of subterfuge to keep the ruthless simple in power no matter who won. Jock therefore gets to pacify his favorite son and keep JR in Ewing Oil. I never thought of this. It's as manipulative as any scheme of JR's.
On the outside looking in one would expect the other Ewings, especially Bobby, ask, "What kind of b.s. is this? A year of fighting for this?" Of course, Bobby, Ray, et. al, are so caught up in the Jock mythology that they can't see that.
Pam might have. Gary, definitely.
 

J. R.'s Piece

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Valid points.
One if the great things about Dallas is so much of the history we didn't see but was hinted at. This adds to the intrigue.
For example, Valene's take on her time with the Ewings changed frequently. Sometimes it was all the Ewings were horrible to her, than it was only Bobby treated her with respect, than Jock had a soft spot for her, and then it was really just JR. People's memories are tricky so her and Gary's life with them is a goldmine to ponder.
Think it was Gary who said that his father had a soft spot for Valene, to Abby, at the beginning of Knots Landing season 4. Not Valene’s take. And from Valene’s first appearances, it was clear that Bobby and Valene got along. And it was stated that Bobby was still a kid when Gary left. She doesn’t say that every single member of Gary’s family was horrible to her. Although she does sometimes talk generally about them. Like when I have to generally talk about an evil half-sibling’s evil direct descendants. But never forgetting that one of it’s direct descendants isn’t as evil as the others. Even though I had to sever contact with it too.

And Gary’s interest problem was kind of reduced after a year, when on Knots Landing he received his profits from Ewing Oil, which were said to be for millions and millions of dollars. And he said it was his daddy’s way of saying, “Have a nice day!”
 
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Snarky Oracle!

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The contrast between KNOTS' perception of the Texas Ewings and DALLAS' version is interesting.

The miniseries in 1978, heavily-influenced by creator David Jacobs, gives us a smarmier, probably more-realistic bag of bastards who live at Southfork. You don't really see all that much overt devilment, even from JR, but there's a pervading feeling of nefariousness emitting from the family; unseen things -- probably vile and certainly illegal -- hidden just out of sight, an entitled smirk and a paranoid glance all we really glimpse of it.

Filming in the winter always seemed to help evoke this flavor of skeletons-in-the-armoire, as it so often would even for TNT's nuDALLAS.

But you knew them Ewings knew damn well who killed Kennedy. Even if they couldn't be directly implicated themselves.

Larry himself later said that even Miss "I-don't-care-if-it's-fair!" Ellie was a scoundrel in her own way during the short saturnine saga that was the first five episodes. Even Sue Ellen stammering to not-quite-offer her unappreciative mother-in-law a bedpan when Ellie was suffering a migraine managed to convey both Sue Ellen's lack of stature within the family and a franker tone than we would come to expect.

This was the morally-questionable cadre of mostly-offscreen in-laws that Gary and Valene seemed to conjure whenever reminiscing about their old lives in Texas, a clan of compromised characters in the backstory whose privilege was assumed and probably kind of dirty. One that seemed echoed in Donna Culver Krebbs' and Valene's various memoirs.

On DALLAS itself, of course, all sins soon drifted to JR, to a lesser-degree that pesky Cliff Barnes, with a revolving door of sisters-in-law with a revolver. It wasn't as dark, wasn't as ominous, and was less potentially off-putting to the audience of the time. Filming in the bright summer now made sense. Yes, you'd have the occasional foreboding moment with the family at night, gathered around the Southfork dining table or clustered together in the living room to hiss at each other, but mostly everybody was transformed into the lovely, upstanding citizens expected from series television, all righteously indignant over the most recent crimes, moral and otherwise, committed by JR and JR alone. He now embodied the program's entire sleaze-factor. (Although Sue Ellen appeared to like a little sip of somethin' here-and-there). Everybody else seemed to be living in a different ethical world, all flustered over how that wicked JR and his schemes managed to worm his way back into the house yet again.

I like to think both versions of the Texas Ewings are fundamentally true, just reflective of different subjective viewpoints.

But the interpretation that this oil-rich brood was actually amorally apathetic to JR's numerous deals with The Devil, deals which permitted them all to lounge in smugly lazy luxury, rings the most true. And probably would have been right for a theatrical film, had there ever been one instead of a small-screen series.

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Jimmy Todd

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Great observation, @Snarky Oracle! I think one of the reasons season 6 was so good was that we had the "summer Ewings " and quite a few hints of the "winter" Ewings.
The casual way(often, not always) Miss Ellie and Jock spoke about favoring sons over other sins speaks to what you're saying. Most parents would not want to even admit that they loved one son more than the other. Although, Miss Ellie did have her, "I gave you up too soon" moment regarding JR.
 

tommie

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There was a certain canonization of Jock after he died as an all around good guy - I never minded myself that the characters themselves might've bought into that as it often happens in real life ("he was a complex man" is usually a code word for "he was an asshole"), but the issue sort of becomes when the viewers and producers themselves start believing it. JR learnt his tricks from somewhere.
 

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

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I don't think it was cruel at all, Jock probably knew that Gary would've just squandered any money that was left to him because of his alcoholism.

Jock Ewing did the right thing by his son, by limiting access to any monetary assets which were left to him in his will. :)
 

Mustard

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I just got done watching that episode. It was like one last strike against Gary from the grave by Jock. We all know Gary had issues, but to treat him like a 15 year old and put stipulation on his inheritance where you didn’t do that to anybody’s else, especially Ray who has been a Ewing for about 2 years, was degrading.

What love Gary had for Jock was probably gone at that time.
It was much more complicated than that. Gary's feelings about his dad were complicated. Bobby seemingly dealt with Jock's death better than Jock's other sons because Bobby didn't have complex issues of some sort with his dad like J.R., Gary and Ray did.

Gary is a grown man. That’s his problem.
Abby can be a female J.R. if she wants to be, and the fact she came from a working class background back east makes her even more dangerous in some ways (closer to Jock than J.R. in that regard). She was a big factor in Gary changing and getting stronger.
 
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