Dallas Couples JR & Sue Ellen - Swoonalicious Appreciation Thread

[i love jr ewing]

Great pictures.

 

[Sarah]

On the day that Sue Ellen left Dallas, JR totally checks her bum out as they are coming out of his office.

 

[Sarah]

Also what is it about JR/SE that makes them so great to watch?
Why do you ship them? (if you do)



I think for me a part of JR/SE's charm is that their relationship is so long. You get to follow them through several decades and despite getting divorced twice there's no doubt that they loved each other until death did them part.

Also their relationship is so passionate, there are lots of ups and downs and they are dysfunctional and interesting to watch. Their bickering can be funny and sometimes the insults they throw at each other when they argue are truly hurtful. Yet nothing seems to break the bond between them.

In answer to your questions Karin, there is NO ONE, yes NO ONE who can rival them in terms of chemistry, sex appeal, bond or love and desire for each other. Yes I include Pam and Bobby in that statement - they were not the same, it just doesn't wash for me. Yes they were romantic but at the end of the day, Pam abandoned Bobby and she was also incredibly demanding and selfish. Sue Ellen loved JR unconditionally and I do believe if it wasn't for his difficult upbringing, he would have been a committed and faithful husband. He realised the error of his ways at the very end.

How they look at each other, react to each other - you can almost see the line of electricity between them. This doesn't exist for me with the other couples. Despite them being totally dysfunctional for most of the show, I would still rather watch them together than anyone else. I've been an avid 'shipper' for my whole life and there isn't anyone who comes even close to comparing with them. It's almost as if God made Larry, then made Linda and said 'Watch this Magic'.

 

[Alexia]

In answer to your questions Karin, there is NO ONE, yes NO ONE who can rival them in terms of chemistry, sex appeal, bond or love and desire for each other. Yes I include Pam and Bobby in that statement - they were not the same, it just doesn't wash for me. Yes they were romantic but at the end of the day, Pam abandoned Bobby and she was also incredibly demanding and selfish. Sue Ellen loved JR unconditionally and I do believe if it wasn't for his difficult upbringing, he would have been a committed and faithful husband. He realised the error of his ways at the very end.

How they look at each other, react to each other - you can almost see the line of electricity between them. This doesn't exist for me with the other couples. Despite them being totally dysfunctional for most of the show, I would still rather watch them together than anyone else. I've been an avid 'shipper' for my whole life and there isn't anyone who comes even close to comparing with them. It's almost as if God made Larry, then made Linda and said 'Watch this Magic'.

:10::bravo:

 

[Karin]

Thanks for getting back to me on this Sarah.
I agree with you that they were magic to watch together.

Anyone else wanna join in and answer the question what made you ship JR/SE?

We'd sure love to read your answers.

I went back and checked the scene you mentioned and it does look like he checked in her bum!

I agree that Bobby and Pam were not the same. But I think that was a part of their charm. I mean to make Dallas the successful show it became it needed more than just one couple to ship and it's great how different people have different favorites.

But yeah the way Bobby and Pam ended was a disgrace to their entire lovestory. So annoying!

This made me curious however:

Sue Ellen loved JR unconditionally and I do believe if it wasn't for his difficult upbringing, he would have been a committed and faithful husband.

You mention his upbringing, but well Bobby and Gary were also brought up by the same parents. So what is it that made JR and Gary turn into cheating husbands whereas Bobby was the faithful one?

Anyone who reads this, feel free to join in the discussion and speculate with us!

 

[Sarah]

This made me curious however:



You mention his upbringing, but well Bobby and Gary were also brought up by the same parents. So what is it that made JR and Gary turn into cheating husbands whereas Bobby was the faithful one?

Anyone who reads this, feel free to join in the discussion and speculate with us!

Because he was the oldest and he wasn't his Daddy's favourite. Winning his Daddy's approval was the most important thing in the world to him, or so he thought. Bobby was Jock's favourite, Gary was Miss Ellie's - JR was nobody's. Well he was Sue Ellen's

 

[Karin]

True JR was Sue Ellen's favorite.



But yeah I can see why his parents playing favorites wouldn't have been good for JR's self-esteem. I mean he used to be the oldest one so at first he had their undivided attention and then his brothers came along and sort of replaced him. So I can see why JR went his own ways after that and tried his best to impress his daddy. I guess JR must have been Jock's favorite until Bobby was born...

 

[i love jr ewing]

Great pictures.

 

[Alexia]

True JR was Sue Ellen's favorite.

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But yeah I can see why his parents playing favorites wouldn't have been good for JR's self-esteem. I mean he used to be the oldest one so at first he had their undivided attention and then his brothers came along and sort of replaced him. So I can see why JR went his own ways after that and tried his best to impress his daddy. I guess JR must have been Jock's favorite until Bobby was born...

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Awesome pictures Karin Schill!!!!

 

[Rove]

All this chatter regarding the change in behavior of JR just wishes some smart writer/producer created a new Dallas series starting in the year 1960. According to ultimatedallas.com JR would be 21 with Gary 16 and Bobby aged 11. What a great era for the series to commence. And remember just twelve months later Lucy is born. I understand most posters would have issues seeing other actors portray our beloved characters but how cool would it be seeing the Ewing family in that era.

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I reckon it would look cool seeing Jock and the Cartel decked out in their mafia inspired hip clothing.

 

[lbf522]

i liked JR and Sue Ellen. He was not the best of husbands that was for sure. And not just the adultery. I remember the first episode when Sue Ellen is telling Ellie that is Jock was always inquiring why she was not pregnant yet and Ellie said she would speak to him.

It should have been JR's Sue Ellen's husband who should have been the one telling Jock to back off.

 

[Ms Southworth]

In answer to your questions Karin, there is NO ONE, yes NO ONE who can rival them in terms of chemistry, sex appeal, bond or love and desire for each other. Yes I include Pam and Bobby in that statement - they were not the same, it just doesn't wash for me. Yes they were romantic but at the end of the day, Pam abandoned Bobby and she was also incredibly demanding and selfish. Sue Ellen loved JR unconditionally and I do believe if it wasn't for his difficult upbringing, he would have been a committed and faithful husband. He realised the error of his ways at the very end.

How they look at each other, react to each other - you can almost see the line of electricity between them. This doesn't exist for me with the other couples. Despite them being totally dysfunctional for most of the show, I would still rather watch them together than anyone else. I've been an avid 'shipper' for my whole life and there isn't anyone who comes even close to comparing with them. It's almost as if God made Larry, then made Linda and said 'Watch this Magic'.

@Sarah: If Sue Ellen loved JR unconditionally, then why did she have a problem with him sleeping around?

Even though I have my share of favorite couples on "Dallas", it doesn't mean that I didn't notice the line of electricity between JR and Sue Ellen (except, of course, when he forced himself on her! )!

I know that your have very strong feelings about JR and Sue Ellen (... in particular, Sue Ellen)! :wink@ But from the way that you've explained your position, it seems like you don't valid that other "Dallas" couples had their own unique chemistry, sex appeal, bond, love, desire, etc.

In terms of being demanding and selfish, I think that pretty much all the characters on "Dallas" had their own "share" at some point or another!

 

[Karin]

@Ms Southworth I hear what you are saying, but why don't you share with us in the Bobby & Pam thread why you ship them?

Then as for JR/SE. We all have our favorites and personally I've enjoyed reading all the reasons why fans ship JR/SE that's been shared here.

@Rove your pre-quel idea for Dallas is an interesting one and what I wish they had done with new Dynasty as I wanted to see the Alexis & Blake years.
I guess the time frame you suggest would allow us to have a look at Gary & Val's romance and also Bobby & Jenna's teen romance. But for JR/SE fans it wouldn't be that rewarding as they didn't meet until around 1967 and I doubt people would want to see JR with Vanessa or Lee Ann De La Vega!

 

[Sarah]

Why did she have a problem with him sleeping around?? Eh?? Because she loved him...

I'm sorry I feel a bit attacked here I never said that I didn't value what the other couples had - I just said that I don't think they had anywhere near the chemistry that JR and Sue Ellen had. I have never doubted any of the other major couples love. I don't find Pam and Bobby sexy together at all...is that wrong?

 

[Ms Southworth]

Why did she have a problem with him sleeping around?? Eh?? Because she loved him...

I'm sorry I feel a bit attacked here I never said that I didn't value what the other couples had - I just said that I don't think they had anywhere near the chemistry that JR and Sue Ellen had. I have never doubted any of the other major couples love. I don't find Pam and Bobby sexy together at all...is that wrong?

@Sarah: I'm sorry if you feel attacked, since that certainly wasn't my intention!

Please note that I didn't write that you said that you didn't value other couples! What I wrote was that it seemed like (or at least that was my perception) that you didn't (or couldn't) cheerish the other couples!

Once again, I apologize for any harm that I might have done! :forgive:

 

[Ms Southworth]

@Ms Southworth I hear what you are saying, but why don't you share with us in the Bobby & Pam thread why you ship them?

Just not my kind of thing ... at this point in time anyway! :ch:

 

[Sarah]

@Sarah: I'm sorry if you feel attacked, since that certainly wasn't my intention!

Please note that I didn't write that you said that you didn't value other couples! What I wrote was that it seemed like (or at least that was my perception) that you didn't (or couldn't) cheerish the other couples!

Once again, I apologize for any harm that I might have done! :forgive:

Thanks but nothing to forgive.

I know I make myself vulnerable but I'm going through a really hard time at the moment and just need to be somewhere where I'm valued. If it's ever seemed like I can't cheer the other couples, it is because I don't have any real invested interest in them. It's not that I don't value or recognise what they have - Pam and Bobby, Donna and Ray, Miss Ellie and Jock/Clayton. I really do. But I don't feel the same way about them and never will. I don't think that is a fault. JR and Sue Ellen are it for me and I come here because I feel safe enough to express how I feel about them. It's no disrespect to the other couples - I just don't see that kind of magic with anyone else.

 

[Ms Southworth]

Thanks but nothing to forgive.

I know I make myself vulnerable but I'm going through a really hard time at the moment and just need to be somewhere where I'm valued. If it's ever seemed like I can't cheer the other couples, it is because I don't have any real invested interest in them. It's not that I don't value or recognise what they have - Pam and Bobby, Donna and Ray, Miss Ellie and Jock/Clayton. I really do. But I don't feel the same way about them and never will. I don't think that is a fault. JR and Sue Ellen are it for me and I come here because I feel safe enough to express how I feel about them. It's no disrespect to the other couples - I just don't see that kind of magic with anyone else.

You will ALWAYS be valued on the Board, @Sarah!
Also, I'm very sorry that you're going through a rough time! I hope that your friends in cyberspace can help cheer you up for a brighter tomorrow! :wink@

 

[Sarah]

Thanks, to be honest I'm not sure how much more I can take.

 

[Ms Southworth]

Thanks, to be honest I'm not sure how much more I can take.

@Sarah: If you're sick (or someone close to you is), I'll pray for you! On the other hand, if someone broke your heart, remember that it's his loss!