Ken Kercheval doing DALLAS.

Jock Og

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Imho this is a wonderful interview with the late great Ken Kercheval. He nearly always was playing second fiddle as Cliff to Larry Hagman's J.R. character, his big strike with Gold Canyon 340 was the notable exception. Barnes junior was very evil in the NEW DALLAS, which I didn't agree with because Cliff was a master at comic relief. In this interview he talks about the much missed Barbara Bel Geddes, Victoria Principal, daughter of the late producer Leonard Katzman, Sherril Lynn Katzman Rettino R.I.P. (Cliff's dutiful secretary Jackie Dugan) and the two actors who played Digger Barnes; David Wayne and Keenan Wynn in order of appearance, who have also went to the magnificent heavenly oil field.




Pamela and Cliff go looking for Digger, to break the news of his daughter’s recent marriage. Cliff finds him in one of his usual bars, surrounded by people and talking about when he and Jock struck oil, (a scene from the 1st episode; the mini-series, DVD-1, 1978):

Bar patron (slurred speech): “Pour my old buddy another drink here.”

Digger: “Thank you….thank you sir! That’s mighty nice of ya, now 1930 was my year. My partner and I walked out right here in Texas and I just followed my nose and I said here and he went back to register the claim and I stayed there and I drilled, until I thought we had enough. We owned 10 times more than we could ever spend. I said that’s a plenty and he looked at me and laughed in my face and said that I owned nothing, nothing at all. I even owed him some money. Well I tried to kill…I tried to kill Jock Ewing, once or twice but I bundled it. You see I can drill but I can’t kill.”

Cliff: “There you have it Pammy, the product of Jock Ewing’s ethics.”

They decide to interrupt Digger’s craic.

Cliff: “Excuse me…excuse me!”

Bar patron (slurred speech): “Listen don’t take him away. We’re having a good time here. What’s going on?”

Digger opens his arms to greet Pam and says, “Pammy.”

Pamela: “Hi daddy! You ok?”

Digger: “Sure…..sure.”

Pamela: “Daddy I came…….”

Digger: “Uh?”

Pamela: “I came to tell you……”

Digger looks at her drunkenly.

Pamela: “Daddy I came to tell you that I got married.”

Digger smiles and replies (slurred speech): "Well now what do ya think of that?”

Pamela: “Daddy please don’t be mad or hurt. I love my husband daddy.”

Digger smiles and says (slurred speech): "Sure you do!”

Pamela: “…..But he’s Bobby Ewing.”

Digger replies, while not registering who it is: "A ha!”

Cliff looks at Pam.

Pamela: “Daddy the boy I married is a Ewing.”

Digger nods.

Cliff: “Jock Ewing’s boy.”

Cliff then looks down at the table.

Digger then just stares at Pamela and gives her a look that says it all. Pamela then gets emotional.

She leaves the bar. Digger still has the shock stare, with Cliff beside him.
 
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Gioberti84

Telly Talk Well-Known Member
A nice listen. Interestingly Ken along with Larry and Patrick were the sole core cast there at the end, excluding those from JR's Its A Wonderful Life parody. I wasn't aware Ken was good friends with Barbara, off set.
 

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

Telly Talk Champion
Thank you for posting that interview, @Jock Claus

It was great to hear Ken talk about playing Cliff Barnes. "I could take him any direction I wanted".

Ken is what made Cliff more than a one dimensional character.

Yeah he was great on the original Dallas.

However what Cidre did to his character doesn't bear thinking about. :(
 

James from London

International Treasure
As with people like @James from London Ken wants to be around the stage in any way that he is useful.
He mentions taking a job in stage helping with lighting, just so he could be involved.
That's not me, I'm afraid! I'm pretty much inept when it comes to anything practical. Put me anywhere near a lighting rig and the entire theatre is likely going up in flames.

As for New DALLAS's take on Cliff, we could argue from now until Christmas (i.e., tomorrow) about how great or terrible it was (I personally loved it), but my gosh, what a gift for an actor at an age where the kind of role he's far more likely to have been offered is someone's twinkly grandfather in a Lifetime movie.

For all Kercheval's inventiveness, he'd pretty much exhausted the emotionally erratic, flappy-handed version of Cliff we got in old DALLAS -- and that's not so much a criticism as an inevitability: as with Hagman's JR, the more familiar a character becomes to an audience, the harder it becomes for them to keep surprising and therefore intriguing that audience. New DALLAS allows Kercheval to take his performance in an entirely different direction. I think the closest we get to the showboating, heart-on-the-sleeve Cliff of old is his drunken outburst at JR's memorial service. The rest of the time, Kercheval underplays, holding his cards in check. No longer a ball of emotion, he plays Cliff as a hollowed-out husk of a man who's long since sold his soul in an offscreen Faustian pact. He's haunted. By what exactly, we can't be certain, but that's what so great -- he's mysterious again. Like the New DALLAS version of JR, the once (overly) familiar has become unfamiliar. We don't know what Cliff's capable of anymore and neither, perhaps, does he -- until the moment he, and we, find out. That end of episode close-up of Cliff's twitching face just after he calmly gives the order to blow up the rig with his pregnant daughter onboard is just ... well, Shakespearean is the word that comes to mind. Obviously I never knew Ken Kercheval and I hate the idea of claiming to speak for him, but my guess, from the type of actor he always seemed to be (bold, risk-taking, apparently unconcerned with appearing sympathetic), is that he would have relished the opportunity to play such a moment.
 
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Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

Telly Talk Champion
NuDallas demonstrated that Cliff’s tragedy was complete: there was nothing left of that idealistic lawyer from decades earlier. It was always going to be his fate - and it wasn’t pretty.

Yeah I'm firmly convinced that when he found out that his sister Pam was presumed dead it unhinged his mind.

That's why he became so bitter against the Ewing's again. He blamed them for what happened to Pam. :(
 

Snowcat

Telly Talk Active Member
It's emblematic of TNT as a whole. It's not totally implausible but a few lines of connecting tissue would have been nice.
Agreed. It was so nice to see Cliff free from his hatred of the Ewings. I would like to know how he became so entangled again. Also, what happened to make Bobby agree to JR’s plan. Bobby & Cliff had become friends. There’s definitely a part of the story missing
 
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