Dallas Character Marilee Stone

[Sarah]

I have now gone over the edge.

Thank you and goodbye.

 

[stevew]

Another obvious choice. I suspect Serena would have been smart enough to keep a child hidden from plain site as she knew JR's personality better than anyone.

I honestly don't recall her - later years? I'm bad with details after the dream episode.

 

[stevew]

Except we saw Serena ask JR for help...seems to me she would have used the child to secure financial support.

I also forgot all about Marilee having children, and I agree with whoever said it wasn't her style to keep it a secret and not use it against JR.

To me, the mother would have to be someone who was either wealthy enough to not ever need or want JR's money OR someone who hated him so much or was so scared of him she wouldn't want him near her child.

Katherine fits both categories.

I think Holy would have had an abortion.

Julie Grey fits.

I find Laurel to be the most intriguing choice though.

I agree "either wealthy enough to not ever need or want JR's money OR someone who hated him so much or was so scared of him she wouldn't want him near her child."

Katherine fits both categories - possibly, as she was my guess, plus in TNT's version this child could lay claim to the shares in the company that Cliff gave to Pamela, but I wanted something different.

I think Holy would have had an abortion - agree, though she was an other idea

Julie Grey fits - I don't think she was wealthy enough to pull it off but should could have been afraid enough of JR to keep it a secret, but I'm looking for someone more like the later, wealthy enough to pull it off.

I find Laurel to be the most intriguing choice though - can some one please explain Laurel, maybe refresh my memory of here. Anything after the dream season to me is a blur so I'm not sure here, or maybe she's before that, I just can't recall the name.

I do think Marilee fits part of that: wealthy enough to not ever need or want JR's money, and while totally hating him so much certainly concerned if not scared of him when it comes to her child that she wouldn't want him near her child. I think of it this way, Marilee finds out she's pregnant with JR's kid, does she have an abortion? IF I say no, then what? Does she use this child? Yes if the opportunity presents itself, but maybe not. This is her child too, not just JR's. Lets say she has two son's off at boarding school, which I can defiantly see, could she go off somewhere, say New York, for a few months and have a baby, put the baby up in an apartment with a nanny and fly back all the time to see her child? Yes of course she had the means. JR's dealings with Sue Ellen over John Ross could certainly be a motive. Maybe she was even playing the long game: raise this child to be hers, loyal to her and then surprise J.R. with a child, one he couldn't deny, one from a prominent Texas family, we all know how important that was to him. I don't know, but that's my thinking so far.

 

[stevew]

Eh no thanks. Absolutely done with this JR having a daughter stuff. I’m out. Winger shouldn’t have been anywhere near that funeral although Im glad she did show up looking like Elvira.

I agree with Winger - for me to have bought the whole thing of her being there I would have needed to see Bobby, Chris and John Ross walk up to her and say, "This is not the place for you."

 

[stevew]

Oh of course I did - but she still tried to make it all about herself didn't she? How about kneeling before the Queen and apologising? No, all about her as usual. Stupid vacant bitch. Hope she went straight back to Hell on a stick where she came from.

Another missed opportunity - she was there and should have been confronted. Maybe even Calley saying, "Why would you be here after what you did to Sue Ellen and John Ross?" Something.

 

[stevew]

Honestly it would have made more sense to have James mother, Vanessa Beaumont at JR's funeral than Mandy Winger.
But I can see why they went with Mandy, as she was one of JR's most prominent mistresses on the show.
I am not counting Afton, as I see her more as Cliff Barnes' girlfriend than JR's mistess.

I agree - and with that they could have addressed Vanessa say to Sue Ellen something like:

"You know he loved you. I saw it in the way he talked about you. I know what you went through with him was more than most people could bare, but he did love you. Maybe you were the only woman in the world he ever loved. You certainly were the only woman who could hurt him."

"I don't understand."

"He loved you. That meant you could hurt him. I mean after all you married him because he was the Ewing crown prince, didn't you? Just like you assumed he married you because you were the prettiest princess Texas ever saw." Venessa cuts Sue Ellen off as she attempts to object, "And maybe that's how it started, but somewhere he fell for you and somewhere you fell for him, and all that crap in the middle tore you two apart. It's really the saddest love story I've ever seen. Just know, there are few people in the world that knew JR like I did. And I know if there's any woman alive or dead that he ever was in love with, it was you."

"Thank you. I thought . . ."

"I know what you thought."

"How is James holding up?"

"He's fine. His father died a long time ago. And John Ross?"

"I don't know."

"Well if he's anything like his father, he's dying in side, but he won't show it."

 

[DallasFanForever]

I honestly don't recall her - later years? I'm bad with details after the dream episode.

Serena was JR’s favorite call girl for many years. I’m sure you remember her as she made her first appearance as far back as 1980.

I find Laurel to be the most intriguing choice though - can some one please explain Laurel, maybe refresh my memory of here

Laurel was “Clayton’s Little Cupcake,” as JR referred to her. Or better known as the woman in the painting that Clayton became a little infatuated over but never officially crossed the line with.

I don’t find her to be that intriguing of a choice though because she really wasn’t a memorable character compared to the others we’ve mentioned.

 

[Karin]

Besides Laurel didn't even want to have sex with JR. He blackmailed her into it. So it was like he raped her too.
So I can't see her giving birth to JR's baby.

Marilee at one point thought JR would get married to her. She did seem to love him. So if it wasn't for that we had seen her on the show all the time it seems like a more plausible choice.

 

[stevew]

Serena was JR’s favorite call girl for many years. I’m sure you remember her as she made her first appearance as far back as 1980.


Laurel was “Clayton’s Little Cupcake,” as JR referred to her. Or better known as the woman in the painting that Clayton became a little infatuated over but never officially crossed the line with.

I don’t find her to be that intriguing of a choice though because she really wasn’t a memorable character compared to the others we’ve mentioned.

I remember JR's call girl but couldn't remember the name. Another missed opportunity for to find out she worked for Judith Brown - making her like Belle to JR and Rhett kind of thing, but alas. My problem with her is I think the mother needed to a powerful woman to raise an even more powerful woman. In my opinion that only really leaves Marilee and Donna. Donna isn't possible as she would have killed JR for real (he'd have had to rape her), leaving just Marilee.

I do remember the story with Clayton, I just don't remember it well, certainly not well enough to have linked her to JR.

Thank you.

 

[stevew]

Besides Laurel didn't even want to have sex with JR. He blackmailed her into it. So it was like he raped her too.
So I can't see her giving birth to JR's baby.

Marilee at one point thought JR would get married to her. She did seem to love him. So if it wasn't for that we had seen her on the show all the time it seems like a more plausible choice.

I forgot that - yes she did have a thing for him. I still think, I've seen women 9 months pregnant I'd never have known were pregnant, so with just a 3 month window, I do believe that Marilee could have flown up to New York, given birth and flown back. And while, I'm not expert, there must have been a three month window in there some where, at least a plausible three month window according to television time lines.

 

[stevew]

Thank you to everyone. I'm going to go with Merilee Stone in my fan fiction. I appreciate all the help on this one. Marilee attempted to keep her child from J.R. until it suited her to do otherwise. And being the blue blooded snob she was, she named the girl after the most granddame of the DOA and her own mother, Eleanor Mary Lee Hurst Ewing (oh yes Jordan Lee will have been Marilee's cousin) - fit in all those good old Dallas family names.

 

[Sarah]

I think Marilee certainly had a thing for JR - but it wasn't love.

 

[stevew]

I think Marilee certainly had a thing for JR - but it wasn't love.

100% agree - another reason for her to raise his one daughter so interesting.

 

[CeeCee72]

I forgot that - yes she did have a thing for him. I still think, I've seen women 9 months pregnant I'd never have known were pregnant, so with just a 3 month window, I do believe that Marilee could have flown up to New York, given birth and flown back. And while, I'm not expert, there must have been a three month window in there some where, at least a plausible three month window according to television time lines.

It's very possible...I lived with my mother and father in law while pregnant with my first child. We didn't tell them until I was almost 8 full months pregnant. They had no idea because I wasn't showing hardly at all and I dressed in baggy clothes. Marliee could have hidden a pregnancy right up until the end.

 

[stevew]

It's very possible...I lived with my mother and father in law while pregnant with my first child. We didn't tell them until I was almost 8 full months pregnant. They had no idea because I wasn't showing hardly at all and I dressed in baggy clothes. Marliee could have hidden a pregnancy right up until the end.

Thank you. That’s what I was thinking. I like her best as an unknown daughter of JR’s that he eventually knew about because well frankly Marilee was Texas nobility and one hell of a strong and powerful woman on her own. Her and JR would have had an interesting daughter.