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Billy Nolan

Billy Nolan

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Hello - I have a question about a special episode. I only watched Dallas sporadically back then, but one of the scenes that sticks out for me is the one between Ray and Mickey: they had a little argument and Ray wanted to ground Mickey through work. He was mowing the lawn for an elderly woman and said that such work would do him good... Could you tell me what episode that was in?
 
Lastkidpicked

Lastkidpicked

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Billy Nolan said:
Thank you. I remember it was a nice episode.
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The writers did a nice job with the Mickey and Aunt Lil storyline.

Putting the last part in spoilers in case you don't remember and want to be surprised.

Mickey's character developed naturally. He came around to respecting Ray, and being polite to Donna. Mickey started dating Lucy, and was the only one who made Lucy truly happy.
Aunt Lil came out for a visit and it was nice. Miss Ellie commented on how much she enjoyed having Southfork full of people again. Everybody had a bright future.

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This made the car crash all the more powerful. Mickey's death affected many people: Sue Ellen, who could naturally blame herself. Walt Driscoll, who later killed himself. Lucy, who lost the one true love who really did make her happy. Aunt Lil, who lost the closest thing she had to a son. Ray and Donna, who also lost the closest thing they had to a son. And Miss Ellie, who realizes this is the last time Southfork would be a happy place, full of piano music and bad (but enjoyable) singing.

The writers did an amazing job.
 
Billy Nolan

Billy Nolan

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Lastkidpicked said:
The writers did a nice job with the Mickey and Aunt Lil storyline.

Putting the last part in spoilers in case you don't remember and want to be surprised.

Mickey's character developed naturally. He came around to respecting Ray, and being polite to Donna. Mickey started dating Lucy, and was the only one who made Lucy truly happy.
Aunt Lil came out for a visit and it was nice. Miss Ellie commented on how much she enjoyed having Southfork full of people again. Everybody had a bright future.

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The writers did an amazing job.
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Wow! Thank you very much for this great contribution. I would love to see that storyline again. But you can't see all of this on YouTube or similar. I remember the chemistry and authoritarian-well-intentioned tensions between Ray and Mickey in those scenes described.
I would like to see that again...
 
Angela Channing

Angela Channing

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Billy Nolan said:
Hello - I have a question about a special episode. I only watched Dallas sporadically back then, but one of the scenes that sticks out for me is the one between Ray and Mickey: they had a little argument and Ray wanted to ground Mickey through work. He was mowing the lawn for an elderly woman and said that such work would do him good... Could you tell me what episode that was in?
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@Barbara Fan is correct, the episode is The Big Ball, episode 4 from season 6. Ray's Aunt Lil asked her son Mickey to mow her lawn but he doesn't do it so Ray does it himself. While he is cutting the grass Mickey comes out and Ray argues with him about doing it and showing his mother more respect. It's one of the first scenes we saw with Timothy Patrick Murphy and it was clear from early on that he was a fine actor.
 
Lastkidpicked

Lastkidpicked

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Snowcat said:
I just started on these episodes. It’s at the beginning of Season 6. Right before they read Jocks will
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I'm a little jealous of you! These are the episodes that have you anxious for the next installment.

Please post as you watch. We will be interested in your comments.
 
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Chris2

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Lastkidpicked said:
This made the car crash all the more powerful. Mickey's death affected many people: Sue Ellen, who could naturally blame herself. Walt Driscoll, who later killed himself. Lucy, who lost the one true love who really did make her happy. Aunt Lil, who lost the closest thing she had to a son. Ray and Donna, who also lost the closest thing they had to a son. And Miss Ellie, who realizes this is the last time Southfork would be a happy place, full of piano music and bad (but enjoyable) singing.

The writers did an amazing job.
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Mickey was Aunt Lil’s son, wasn’t he?
 
Taylor Bennett Jr.

Taylor Bennett Jr.

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Lastkidpicked said:
Thank you, @DallasFanForever for clarifying. I misspoke earlier.

It was interesting to watch the parallel between the Jock/Ray relationship and the Ray/Mickey relationship.

Ray took Mickey in and was teaching him to be a ranch hand just like Jock took Ray in back in the day.
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hey, even Ray forgot how everyone was related during the Dream Season, when he called Mickey his nephew instead of his cousin!
 
Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

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Taylor Bennett Jr. said:
hey, even Ray forgot how everyone was related during the Dream Season, when he called Mickey his nephew instead of his cousin!
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Oh, I wouldn't worry about that!

I've started calling Ray Krebbs Uncle Ray. I used to call him Daddy until I was told by my Mother that Bobby Ewing was my real Father.

It really upsets him when I call him Uncle Ray and he gets as mad as anything when I shout Grandpa at him! :)
 
Mustard

Mustard

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Luke_Krebbs_Ewing said:
If only they'd had better treatments for HIV back then that we have now maybe he'd still be alive. God Bless Him.
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He would be alive now provided that he had access to the medication and took it. They can even stop HIV being transmitted these days with a drug called PrEP.

Timothy Patrick Murphy died in 1988, and I don't think there were any treatments at all for HIV/AIDS until 1987, so a literal death sentence. The early treatments up to 1992 basically bought a bit more time of living, but little else, so still a death sentence. By 1992 to 2004 or so, they were talking in terms of 5-10 years of survival after diagnosis, by delaying the time before HIV becomes AIDS. After 2004, they were able to stop HIV becoming AIDS for much longer periods and perhaps indefinitely, and in the last 4 years the PrEP drug to stop it being transmitted.
 
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