Rewatching Dallas with a newbie

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

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Trick-Or-Treat Stevens said:
Please finish it. If you made it through Seasons 11 and 12, 13 and 14 should be a piece of cake. ;) I do enjoy reading the views of your Dallas newbie daughter.
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Yeah they're certainly eye opening. Nice to see the show being watched and enjoyed by her. :)
 
Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

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As long as she doesn't get confused by the appearance of Ben Stivers played by Steve Forrest. It's quite easily explained. This was the first attempt by the Producers to bring back the character of Jock Ewing. It didn't come to anything because Patrick Duffy returned in that infamous shower scene and negated the entire season as a dream. :)
 
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DallasFanForever

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crypt cadaver72 said:
We're watching it now. She says she started it and she is damn well gonna finish it.
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Nice to see she has decided to finish it! I’ve always felt that no matter how far removed the show gets from its glory years in those final seasons, it’s still Dallas and shouldn’t be ignored. I for one won’t skip anything on a rewatch. There’s still some great moments in those later seasons.
 
CeeCee72

CeeCee72

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A ways into season 13.

Strangely, she doesn't hate Michelle at all, but feels we have seen this "vixen spies on JR and Cliff for each other" way too many times.

Whooped in joy when Tommy died.

Hates James. HATES him. Not because he's JR's son, but because he sounds annoying and always looks sweaty.

She has softened towards Cally, but feels like it's probably just because she is the most decent female character since Donna, Pam, and Sue Ellen have gone and Ellie had "lost her damn mind."

Says the worst part is she doesn't care what happens. So what about JR's oil tanker and Ellie's mystery, and whatever "stupid, contrived plot they make up to make April seem important?"

Says that's the worst part. Plots are so bad, so many good characters gone, she just doesn't care anymore.
 
Taylor Bennett Jr.

Taylor Bennett Jr.

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crypt cadaver72 said:
Plots are so bad, so many good characters gone, she just doesn't care anymore.
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aha, so this means the producers and writers have her right where they want her! Just wait until everything snaps into focus and the genius is revealed, right around the time when… something or other happens or someone appears or something, I think
 
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CeeCee72

CeeCee72

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Done with season 13.

First off, she agrees with me that JR needs eyebrow trimmers and she adds that James should carry around a handkerchief to wipe off his upper lip.

She says Liz and Stephanie are both stupid characters and an attempt to make us forget that Pam, Sue Ellen, (and most importantly to her Donna) are gone and it all fails miserably.

The Pam look alike story made her cringe but she said at least Bobby finally acknowledged Pam's gone.

Softening even more towards Cally and hates April less, but only because all the other female characters are "stupid and dull."

Speaking of dull, she says they ought to give Lucy something to do. She thinks she should have helped Ellie and Clayton with the murder mystery. She kind of liked that plot, mostly because it wasn't centered around new characters and at least seeing Lady Jessica again brought back memories of when the show was actually good.

The sanitarium plot is "even dumber than that Halleyville trash." She is, however, holding out hope that Sue Ellen shows up in JR's room and "shoots that bastard in his privates."
 
Michelle Stevens

Michelle Stevens

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crypt cadaver72 said:
Strangely, she doesn't hate Michelle at all, but feels we have seen this "vixen spies on JR and Cliff for each other" way too many times.
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Strangely? :D LOL, it seems hating Michelle is a default position for many Dallas fans. I'm glad she gave her a chance and seeing her through fresh eyes even if she eventually hates her (or not) by the end of Season 14.

I'm eager to see her take on Season 14. It's good to see what newbies to Dallas think as many of us viewed the series in it's original run when there were only three networks here in the USA.

BTW, do you plan to show her the two movies, JR Returns and War of the Ewings?
 
CeeCee72

CeeCee72

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Trick-Or-Treat Stevens said:
Strangely? :D LOL, it seems hating Michelle is a default position for many Dallas fans. I'm glad she gave her a chance and seeing her through fresh eyes even if she eventually hates her (or not) by the end of Season 14.

I'm eager to see her take on Season 14. It's good to see what newbies to Dallas think as many of us viewed the series in it's original run when there were only three networks here in the USA.

BTW, do you plan to show her the two movies, JR Returns and War of the Ewings?
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If I could find the two movies I would, but don't have the DVDs and can't find them streaming.
 
S

Snowcat

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crypt cadaver72 said:
So here we are, 12 episodes into the abyssal season 12.

She is disappointed that Sue Ellen's shots didn't do more damage to JR than they did. She also finds it totally unbelievable that Sue Ellen wasn't charged (after she and achy Breaky Heart-throb broke into JR's home and JR was only defending himself). She rolled her eyes at Bobby's speech to SE about how John Ross would suffer if the whole thing turned into a bigger scandal. She said John Ross was already screwed up just knowing his mom shot his dad and that his dad deserved it for all those years of abuse.

The Halleyville crap almost made her give up and walk away. She said that was the dumbest thing she had ever seen. She is really ticked about how the police and the courts are being made a mockery of this season.

She hates Cally. But not as much as she hates Casey.

She said Miss Ellie totally disrespected Jock's memory AGAIN by suggesting Cliff be part of Ewing Oil and by agreeing to cave into McKay. She said if Jock was still alive he would have shoved that damn so far up McKay's rear the only thing that would be stopped up was his bowels.

She hates that Jeremy went to jail. She was kinda hoping SE would hook up with him and make JR crazy
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Spot on. I ended up fast forwarding through all the Halleyville scenes.
 
the-lost-son

the-lost-son

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Your daughter must be very smart and she has a very sensible, intelligent view on Dallas for sure. On this forum there is so much knowledge of the behind scenes politics etc.
Sometimes one can forget how easy an analysis of a show like Dallas can be. Just watch it once and you know what made it so compelling in the first place and so bad in its last years.

Your daughter's remarks are spot on and they made me laugh because the blunders are sometimes so obvious.
I wonder if Dallas' producers ever used a control group. One person (like your daughter) would have been enough to save us from JR in the sanatorium, Casey Denault, the Beaumonts or Halleyville.

Apart from that you watching the complete show together with your daughter sounds like a rewarding experience.
 
CeeCee72

CeeCee72

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the-lost-son said:
Your daughter must be very smart and she has a very sensible, intelligent view on Dallas for sure. On this forum there is so much knowledge of the behind scenes politics etc.
Sometimes one can forget how easy an analysis of a show like Dallas can be. Just watch it once and you know what made it so compelling in the first place and so bad in its last years.

Your daughter's remarks are spot on and they made me laugh because the blunders are sometimes so obvious.
I wonder if Dallas' producers ever used a control group. One person (like your daughter) would have been enough to save us from JR in the sanatorium, Casey Denault, the Beaumonts or Halleyville.

Apart from that you watching the complete show together with your daughter sounds like a rewarding experience.
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I am the luckiest Mama in the world.
 
Snarky Oracle!

Snarky Oracle!

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Katzman said going into season 12 that they were going to get out of all the offices and get outside more, rediscover the show's western roots. So they should have shot on location in and around national parks in west Texas when they were doing the Hallyville story and the chain gang story -- like Leonard did when he was producing the latter years of GUNSMOKE... but played straight and not for cornpone laughs.

And he should have brought Paulsen back (and it sounds like he might've asked but Paulsen didn't want to do it) for S13 and done Lady Jessica's murder spree of the cartel as a creepy year-long arc.

Season 14? Well, where does one even start??
 
CeeCee72

CeeCee72

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So far in season 14 -

She is furious about how Bobby dealt with Both April's kidnapping and her death, just as I predicted. She said he is a (her word) twat who couldn't be bothered to care that his real wife disappeared, but now he is wondering around Paris like a live sick loon. She also wants to know why a show named Dallas keeps going to Europe. She also said Michelle was damn right to be mad that Bobby buried April in Paris without consulting her first.

Says Callie is a fool for letting JR out of the sanitarium so cheap. Says it should have cost him millions.

Rose McKay is "ewwwwww."

Johnny is a buffoon.

JR is an idiot.

Vanessa isn't the kind of woman JR could be faithful to, no matter what he says.

James still needs to wipe his upper lip.

And when De La Vega showed up, she had to take a break.
 
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