Showdown: Dream Season vs. Post-Dream Season

Which season was better?

  • Dream Season (DVD 9)

    Votes: 24 61.5%
  • Post-Dream Season (DVD 10)

    Votes: 15 38.5%

  • Total voters
    39

Taylor Bennett Jr.

Telly Talk Winner
I've been following the 'Season 10' thread and am surprised to see a strong sentiment among many that the Dream Season (season 9 DVD) was better than the Post-Dream Season (season 10 DVD), so I wanted to put it to a poll:

Will the Dreamers, the Emerald Lovers, the Lizard Pin On Hat Aficionados outnumber the Paulsenites, the Parmalee Truthers, the Everyone's A Jerk To Each Other Again Brigade?

Take this poll and find out!!
 

Taylor Bennett Jr.

Telly Talk Winner
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Snarky Oracle!

Telly Talk Supreme
Season 9 was very glamorous, but KNOTS' producer Peter Dunne and his writers came in with the idea that DALLAS needed to be reformed. They tried to "strengthen" the women, but it was smug, PC and ineffective. There were some interesting scenes and good performances, and the season started out to be a little rawer and more experimental, but it quickly began to flounder as the plots just circled and circled and went nowhere, with too many maudlin reconciliation moments between characters who either would never reconcile or those moments happened too soon -- eliminating any narrative tension, as the writers were just as bored by their own melodrama as the viewer was.

It was more soap than opera.

Season 10 suffered from Lorimar's new, dreadful video editing process (which made the show look optically fecal, and much worse than the DVDs) and the "I had a terrible 31 episode dream, Bobby" speech which opened the season was destructive. But the plotting of Season 10 was terrific, the Wes Parmalee arc resonant and ground zero for DALLAS, and the B D Calhoun story, which dominated the middle of the year, was also terrific. And Jeremy Wendell and Mrs Scotfield bringing down Ewing Oil was equally compelling.. Yes, the slightly campy tone took over, but they didn't go too far with it, so it worked..

Season 10 was ballsy fun, and one of the three or four best years of the entire program. It was the finest kind of "outrageous."

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Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

Telly Talk Champion
I've been following the 'Season 10' thread and am surprised to see a strong sentiment among many that the Dream Season (season 9 DVD) was better than the Post-Dream Season (season 10 DVD), so I wanted to put it to a poll:

Will the Dreamers, the Emerald Lovers, the Lizard Pin On Hat Aficionados outnumber the Paulsenites, the Parmalee Truthers, the Everyone's A Jerk To Each Other Again Brigade?

Take this poll and find out!!

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Season Ten was more dramatic largely because of the Wes Parmalee Jock Ewing storyline.

What I also loved about this season is that Jock get's mentioned in almost every episode.

Steve Forrest is a terrific actor, his performance during this time was nothing short of sublime.

And Jim Davis wasn't forgotten either because his portrait and Steve Forrest's performance kept Jock at the very forefront of the storylines this season. :)
 

Grangehill1

Telly Talk Fan
Dream season wins hands down.
The fashions, the hair, everyone looks amazing

The musical score is some of the best the programme had ever seen

The first twelve episodes or so are incredible television.

Yes things go a little odd with emeralds and Angelica but give me that over the Valentine storyline

Ray and Donna are incredible. No Ray and Jenna.

Victoria Principle has loads to do, unlike season 10
 

Snarky Oracle!

Telly Talk Supreme
Dream season wins hands down.

Only for those who are asleep.

The fashions, the hair, everyone looks amazing

Too over-the-top, like DYNASTY.

The musical score is some of the best the programme had ever seen

Too many Lance Rubin dirges.

The first twelve episodes or so are incredible television.

They're certainly better than the 19 which followed -- unfocused melodrama going nowhere.

Yes things go a little odd with emeralds and Angelica but give me that over the Valentine storyline

Emeralds and Angela -- no thanks.

Ray and Donna are incredible. No Ray and Jenna.

Good acting. Bad soap. I was okay with Ray and Jenna temporarily, until the show started trying to validate the "romance" in Season 11.


Victoria Principle has loads to do, unlike season 10

Yes.
 
I will take the dream season for a variety of reasons

BBG was backm, VP has never looked more beautiful, SF and Dallas looked fgorgeous on film and Linda Gray and Susan Howard did their best work

I can skim through emerald mines, Angelica, Grace and Co and I althought the second half wasnt as good as Ep 1-12 - I thought they were great - dealing with Bobbys death, a great Oil Barons Ball and Rodeo

S9 original and BD Calhoun and shootouts left me cold, as did Mrs Scottfield and her brother, and the death of weak chinned Jamie - who cares, not me!
at the time i was pleased to see Bobby back and enjoyed Steve Forest as Wes - but s8 original aka dream wins it for me.
 

Jock Ewing Fan

Telly Talk Star
Season 10 wasn't perfect, but the dream season lacked an edge for me. Too soap-opera, Sue Ellen with the Doctor friend of Mark G seemed contrived, not liking Jack and Jenna much, Pam and Mark just boring, JR not really at his best, Angelica Nero seemed more like a Dynasty character.

Season 10 at least had the Calhoun story, the almost Jock return, Wendell manipulating the situation to bring down Ewing Oil.

Again, Season 10 had flaws, but the dream season is almost unwatchable for me.
 

Lastkidpicked

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Season 10 wasn't perfect, but the dream season lacked an edge for me.

Since I agree with @Jock Ewing Fan on everything else, it's kind of fun to disagree for once.

The dream season was entirely worth it to me for one storyline-- Ray and Donna finding out she was pregnant with a downs syndrome child.
Then they go and visit children with special needs and Dallas shows the world that a Down's Syndrome child is a blessing.

I'm very proud of them for doing that.
 

Jock Ewing Fan

Telly Talk Star
Since I agree with @Jock Ewing Fan on everything else, it's kind of fun to disagree for once.

The dream season was entirely worth it to me for one storyline-- Ray and Donna finding out she was pregnant with a downs syndrome child.
Then they go and visit children with special needs and Dallas shows the world that a Down's Syndrome child is a blessing.

I'm very proud of them for doing that.
That is a good point.
 

the-lost-son

Telly Talk Well-Known Member
I took the dream season.

Both seasons have strong first 10-12 episodes with the mourning of Bob and Wes Parmalee. After that it's hit and miss with many scenes/plots/episodes which I fast-forward.

Despite the dream season's many faults (Anjelica/Grace/Dimitros shipping, emeralds...) it still felt glamorous and wealthy. Pam & Sue Ellen looked so much better compared to Season 9 (DVD10).
I'm really looking forward to the remastering. Maybe my views will change.
But I don't think it's only the horrible picture quality only. It's directing, cinematograpgy, lighting, music...

For example Pam's 2nd wedding to Bob felt so cheap compared to her wedding to Mark.
And the same applies for the Oil Baron's ball and the Ewing BBQs as well.
Mrs. Scottfield and her brother didn't add any glamour either.
 
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Ollie james

Telly Talk Active Member
Voted the dream season was great to see Susan Howard given some good material. Pam and Mark worked very well for me and I think the change of look and feel to the show was appropriate considering the loss of a major character. Bobby's death should have changed the dynamic and for a while it did but in simple terms I can forgive Peter Dunne changing things I can never forgive the dream nonsense that wiped it all away.
 

Lastkidpicked

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Pam and Mark worked very well for me and I think the change of look and feel to the show was appropriate considering the loss of a major character.

Interesting thing about Mark Graison. I never liked him during the original run. We've done a few re-watches in the past few years and enjoy him quite a bit more each time we rewatch the series.
 

Billy Wall

Telly Talk Dream Maker
Interesting thing about Mark Graison. I never liked him during the original run. We've done a few re-watches in the past few years and enjoy him quite a bit more each time we rewatch the series.

I always thought Mark Grayson was a good character. Where as everybody had a ton of faults, Mark really didn’t have any. Pam certainly didn’t love him like she loved Bobby, but she could have been much happier with Mark.
 
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