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The remake of the Lily pond catfight is coming our way ;)

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I love the symmetry between A3 & C3's outfit : White dots on black. Black dots on white.

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https://tvline.com/2020/01/23/dynasty-season-3-episode-10-alexis-cristal-fight-photos/
 
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Josh Reims and his gang may be onto something here. Placing EH's Alexis in more scenes like this ("OG Alexis's Greatest Hits") can only help the show stress that she's going to look AND behave like the Alexis everyone remembers. In Sallie and her gang's haste to say "This is a new version of the show," she made Cristal/Celia nothing like Krystle, and we saw what a dud that was. She made NS's Alexis nothing like JC's, and we saw how people were similarly not enthused. So if Josh and his gang can score a hit by making Alexis more...Alexis-ish, then the next project ought to be making DA's Cristal more Krystle-ish by placing her in more of the "OG Krystle's Greatest Hits".

It's noteworthy, for instance, that since the recast, nothing has been brought up about the Flores family and their nefarious activities--as if the new showrunner doesn't want that aspect of the character to be mentioned any more*. She's still nothing close to Krystle in terms of moral compass/moral center, but once they make the Cristal/Alexis rivalry clearer (motives of the characters, their goals, etc.) via scenes like the lily pond redux, she might be well on her way to something resembling OG Krystle more than what we've ever had in Celia or C2.

* I always thought the convenient explanation for the murder of Mark Jennings/Cristal's miscarriage was that Cristal's brother Beto killed him, since it would have given an opportunity for a lot of meaty material for Cristal2, and of course let Alexis off the hook. But if they want to dismiss the Flores family as an aspect of the show, they'll have to forget that whole explanation. They conduct themselves as if the murder of Mark Jennings on the Carrington estate just a day or two before Mack was also killed on the estate didn't even happen. A more clever DA would have tried to link the two murders and try to nail Blake for both of the deaths.
 

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I have to wonder what the temperature had to be for this sequence. It was likely filmed in December...in Atlanta....outdoors. :yikey:
 

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I have to wonder what the temperature had to be for this sequence. It was likely filmed in December...in Atlanta....outdoors. :yikey:

I had the same question in my head. It was surely really, really cold.

Anyway, Elaine Hendrix knows her classics :

“When we were discussing the wardrobe for the scene, they showed me the dress I’d be wearing, and I was like, ‘Wait, where’s the hat?’ I guess they didn’t want the hat, but I was like, ‘No! She has a hat, she picks it up and she starts beating Cristal with it. Where’s my hat?!’ So they were like, ‘Ohhh…’ and they went back and added a hat.”

 

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It's noteworthy, for instance, that since the recast, nothing has been brought up about the Flores family and their nefarious activities--as if the new showrunner doesn't want that aspect of the character to be mentioned any more*. She's still nothing close to Krystle in terms of moral compass/moral center, but once they make the Cristal/Alexis rivalry clearer (motives of the characters, their goals, etc.) via scenes like the lily pond redux, she might be well on her way to something resembling OG Krystle more than what we've ever had in Celia or C2.

It was a small moment in the last episode, but I thought Cristal's confession to Fallon about how she "was so broken" after the miscarriage was a (small) step in the right direction for Cristal. They sort of stuck Cristal in "bad-ass Cristal who stands by her man" mode in the first 9 episodes of the season because of the trial, but if they can give her some emotional depth for her actions ie the miscarriage and Mark's murder traumatised her in a real way, it's a start.

It'll also be interesting to see how this is played on screen - when Cristal1.0 / Alexis1.0 fought in the stable studio, it was at the same time an obvious homage to the Krystle / Alexis studio encounter - yet they choose to include it in a music montage with intercuts of Steven / Sam's wedding. I think - and hope - this is actually shown in full.
 
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It was a small moment in the last episode, but I thought Cristal's confession to Fallon about how she "was so broken" after the miscarriage was a (small) step in the right direction for Cristal. They sort of stuck Cristal in "bad-ass Cristal who stands by her man" mode in the first 9 episodes of the season because of the trial, but if they can give her some emotional depth for her actions ie the miscarriage and Mark's murder traumatised her in a real way, it's a start.

It'll also be interesting to see how this is played on screen - when Cristal1.0 / Alexis1.0 fought in the stable studio, it was at the same time an obvious homage to the Krystle / Alexis studio encounter - yet they choose to include it in a music montage with intercuts of Steven / Sam's wedding. I think - and hope - this is actually shown in full.

I do agree. It was the first time I could "feel" something about this new Cristal. Some actors are meant to play soft/softer characters. Scheming Cristal is annoying, and imho it doesn't work. so, this broken and almost emotional Cristal is better I think.
 
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I hope they don't play some crappy music during the catfight.

I would not hold my breath on this. But who knows?
Kidding. I mostly don't mind Nu Dynasty music. Even the finger snap thing. I know a few fans hate it. But I don't. It's their music signature now, and as Nu Jeff would say "I have made my peace with it" lol
 

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Like the botched Adriana fortune teller scene from season 2, I don’t have much hope for NuDynasty’s remake of the lillypond.

Alexis 3 and Crystal 3 have known each other for 2 episodes whereas the originals knew each other for 2 seasons before they came to blows in the lilypond.
 

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Like the botched Adriana fortune teller scene from season 2, I don’t have much hope for NuDynasty’s remake of the lillypond.

Alexis 3 and Crystal 3 have known each other for 2 episodes whereas the originals knew each other for 2 seasons before they came to blows in the lilypond.

The actresses, yes. Not the characters. A1/A3 and C2/C3 are the same characters and they have a (short) history between them. They can recast all they want (and God they do recast), it doesn't change the character's stories. They really dislike each others. But I understand what you mean. Let's hope this will work.
 
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I think if the show used more classically dramatic music instead of cheesy 80's (there was plenty of good 80's music that wasn't cheesy) and those god-awful snapping music that does nothing for the scenes, the scenes themselves would be much better.
 

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Alexis 3 and Crystal 3 have known each other for 2 episodes whereas the originals knew each other for 2 seasons before they came to blows in the lilypond.
It's why the first fight between Alexis and Krystle (original Dynasty) was so gratifying. From the moment Alexis arrived in Denver there was this simmering tension between the former Mrs Carrington and the current Mrs Carrington. After Krystle discovers it was Alexis who fired that shotgun we knew it was going to be on.

In this reboot of Dynasty in the opening episode we had Fallon and Cristal in a punch up. The scene offered nothing. There was no build up. I'm guessing the same will occur here with the lilypond fight. We have Alexis No.2 and Cristal No.3. They might be new actors playing established characters but will still see them as new. No history. No tension. Nothing gratifying about the outcome.

But imagine for one moment if Cristal No.1 (Nathalie Kelley) was still here. Now we have a new game.
 

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I think if the show used more classically dramatic music instead of cheesy 80's (there was plenty of good 80's music that wasn't cheesy) and those god-awful snapping music that does nothing for the scenes, the scenes themselves would be much better.

That's what they did with Empire and it worked pretty well. I mean, the original background music was very OG Dynasty. Well, like many things in the first season.
 
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I think it always helps to have a slow build-up to these types of showdowns, but I give the show a pass on this one simply because catfights like these are a Rite of Passage for any of the actresses playing these roles. I'm sure the audition sheets went out with "Gives good catfight" somewhere on them. Besides, we don't know yet just what sets this pair off into the pool. C3's sudden (but meaningful) reference to her miscarriage could very well have been foreshadowing that C3 will discover Alexis may have been the real reason for her miscarriage. Add to this the idea that Blake never would have killed Mack if Alexis had not lied about where Mack had been (to cover up her own presence)….I could see her losing her $#it and beating down Alexis. But does the show want to burn through plot that quickly? Revealing Alexis's potential role in Mark's death and the miscarriage is something they should stretch out over a longer time.
 

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Now that it's aired I think they nailed it. Dressing Cristal in white and Alexis in black is anything but subtle but they are clearly defining the two characters and making Cristal much more sympathetic than she has been.
 

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The catfight worked really well. As you said, it's very well executed. The reasons of the catfight are so logical, and it was linked to that big resolution of Mark Jennings' death.
Frankly, they did a great job.
 

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. We have Alexis No.2 and Cristal No.3. They might be new actors playing established characters but will still see them as new. No history. No tension. Nothing gratifying about the outcome.

I hope you will give the episode a chance when you see it. At least, for me it was really, really gratifying. There was no better reason for A3 & C3 to fight. It made sense.

Ice on the cake, now we have this unapologetic and powerful Alexis. The writing is spot on this time. No more greedy white trash clown we had during season 2.
 
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